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5 Evils-Righteous person ever :

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posted on Apr, 6 2003 @ 07:59 PM
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Illmatic, how can you say Bush is more evil than Saddam? No matter what Bush has done it doesnt even come close to the attrocities Saddam has committed.




posted on Apr, 6 2003 @ 10:05 PM
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He hasnt done none of the horrible things Saddam has, but he's on the same path.


UP, I challenge you to find three reasons why you put Muhammad in your evil list.



posted on Apr, 6 2003 @ 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by Illmatic67
He hasnt done none of the horrible things Saddam has, but he's on the same path.


So in your own words you say he has done none of the horrible things that Saddam has done, but you put Bush on your "evil" list and left Saddam off. That doesn't make any sense, I think you just like to be different.
What path do you see that Bush is going down that will put him anywhere near the evil and inhumane things Saddam and his regime have done? I'm sure you'll start by saying that he started this war, but this needed to be done, should have been done a long time ago. There is NO comparison nor similarity between Bush and Saddam, but you keep thinking what you like because you live in America where Bush is in charge and you can think things like this without fear of being executed unlike if you lived in Iraq under Saddam.



posted on Apr, 7 2003 @ 02:26 AM
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Mahatma GANDHI

Jesus-Christ (The justice name, no comment)

Joan Of Arc was really a rightfull person and extraordinary strong. She beat englishes invaders and find a end to the hundred century war. She never lost one of the soldiers under his command and she even save some english lives. She was against the dead penalty. She is pretended to died burned in 1432 but nobody found her body. She is mentionned in scriptures after 1432...

Siddartha Buddha Gotama

Moses : (Okay, I forgot Mohamad, but Actually he is the last prophet I want to hear about. Maybe I should say mohamad instead of Moses...)

Bad :

The german national socialists members means National Socialist Democrates Party (The NaZis).I dont know if HITLER was the worst... Anyway, he had a fascinating power that could inflames masses... Fortunatly, I dont think that GWB have such a power, but his tactic is different...

The Bush family (The whole BUSH family is dedicated to evil, but BUSH the DUBYA is really a moron. And His strategy is simply to think that peoples are as stupids as him ! Anyway, America never had a baddest president and even NIXON was better!)

I change ATTILA to KABILA.

Herode and Judas (Peoples who killed the most righteous man can only be great evils!)

Ramses (Ramses was really as evil as GW BUSH : The proof : He loosed his entire army when trying to bring the ISRAEL people back in slavery in egypt. BUSH is certainly a proslavery man. And I think that BUSH, like RAMSES got his sorceries makers...)



posted on Apr, 7 2003 @ 02:32 AM
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You too Nans? You list Bush on your evil list and do not include Saddam, how can you justify that Bush is more evil than Saddam Hussein, I just cant understand that. You are entitled to your opinion, but please explain. I asked Ill the same question, and if you look at his answer it didn't justify anything.



posted on Apr, 7 2003 @ 02:47 AM
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Napoleon Ist , he killed about 20 milions persons in his time...
The Marquis de Sade : He simply was the Satan himself!
Jean-Marie LEPEN, Sylvio BERLUSCONNI, Pete WILSON...
Ossama BinLadin : the man who started WWIII (I think that he merit this kind of ranking!).

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UP : GOD is not a person ! BATMAN dont symbolize the goodin comics culture but the veangance. He is a Dark caracter. SUPERMAN symbolize good better than him.

You forgot MINI-ME in the EVIL SELECTION



AV : Illmatic67 alias refers to the Nas (NasirJones) 1st album and no to the Illuminati society.

I67 : In France, we have a rap-group (Iam) were the names of the members refers to aegyptians pharaons (Akenaton, Keops, Imotep and ShurIken (This last member is not an aegyptian mystical but a taoist !) Kefren and Freeman (Ex/Malek-Sultan))

IAM : www.iam.tm.fr...



posted on Apr, 7 2003 @ 02:53 AM
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Originally posted by ProudAmerican
You too Nans? You list Bush on your evil list and do not include Saddam, how can you justify that Bush is more evil than Saddam Hussein, I just cant understand that. You are entitled to your opinion, but please explain. I asked Ill the same question, and if you look at his answer it didn't justify anything.


I've still add Ossama BinLadin who is the real "fire-starter" in this war.
I dont believe that Saddam is really the great monster that medias try to make him. KABILA, POLPOT ,the North-Korean, the chinese governments are really worst.


I also forget to Add Vladimir -VLAD- PUTIN !


This is why I tryied to limit with five the quotes, because in the evil you will have toushands names and in the Good path only a few...



posted on Apr, 7 2003 @ 06:35 AM
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Originally posted by Illmatic67

UP, I challenge you to find three reasons why you put Muhammad in your evil list.


3 ? I would write a whole book if I had enough time.


I'll just write that I have read what he did ( wars, slaughters, rapping,robbery... )

quote]Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS

1) UP : GOD is not a person ! BATMAN dont symbolize the goodin comics culture but the veangance. He is a Dark caracter. SUPERMAN symbolize good better than him.

2) You forgot MINI-ME in the EVIL SELECTION


" God is not a person "....Who told you that I was seeing God as a person ?

No. Batman is far much better. I love Batman !


2) Yes, may be.Only God knows if we are good or not.

I'm just noticing that you didn't say anything when I wrote Jacques ChIRAK in my " evil " section peoples.



posted on Apr, 7 2003 @ 11:17 AM
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Batman is much better than Superman, but if you want to get into it, Tetsuo Shima (from Akira mangas, anime) could kick both of their asses.



posted on Apr, 7 2003 @ 02:39 PM
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So in your own words you say he has done none of the horrible things that Saddam has done, but you put Bush on your "evil" list and left Saddam off.


No, I didn't say that, you said it.

Nans, finally someone realizes my name has nothing to do with the Illuminati

UP... wars, robbery, rapping???, and what else did you say I forget , anyway. I want you to tell me WHAT wars, WHEN HE ROBBED, and when he was rapping

Don't just say he waged war, tell me what kind of wars and everything else... details details.. GOOD LUCK.



posted on Apr, 8 2003 @ 12:33 AM
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bat man vs super man hmmm i go for Secret Squirel



DKC

posted on Apr, 8 2003 @ 01:03 AM
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I will join in but the list will be for the last century.
Bad:
1. Stalin
2. Mung
3. Vlad Lenin
4. FDR
5. Bush family tied with the present Pope
Good:
1. Lady Di
2. Herbert Hoover
3. John Lennon
4. Teddy R
5. Benson



posted on Apr, 8 2003 @ 03:51 AM
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Originally posted by Tetsuo-51
Batman is much better than Superman, but if you want to get into it, Tetsuo Shima (from Akira mangas, anime) could kick both of their asses.


My best are Yuri and Kei from Dirty-Pair series... But you cant tell if the are Good or evil because they are so awkward that they always finally kils peoples they're suposed to protect !



posted on Apr, 8 2003 @ 12:22 PM
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OK DKC, let me add you to the list too. Could one of you PLEASE explain to me how you can include Bush on your evil list and leave out Saddam?? Is there any way you can honestly say that Bush is more evil than Saddam? Ill, you did say that in your own words, go back and read your post.



posted on Apr, 8 2003 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by Illmatic67
He hasnt done none of the horrible things Saddam has, but he's on the same path.


There you go Ill, your very own words. Would you care to justify your statement or would you rather just keep beating around the bush (no pun intended).



posted on Apr, 8 2003 @ 01:02 PM
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Good(in no particular order)
MLK
FDR
Ghandi
Einstein
Darwin
(and who ever invented the toaster)


Bad(same as above)
Stalin
Hitler
Bin Laden
Saddam
Any extream religious fanatic (ie-islamic extreamists)
Joe Hayner(I am kind of evil arn't I?):sinister looking emote-icon:



posted on Apr, 8 2003 @ 01:03 PM
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That 2 out of 5 in Illmatic's list weren't black....

(Just kidding....lighten up!)

Seriously though...

TOP 5 GOODIES

1. Jesus (for the record, I should state that I am not a Christian, nor do I believe in God, but many religions agree on his existence, just not his role in religion...in any case, all accounts point to being a great man, even if not the son of God).

2. Mohammad (I suspect Illmatic is having a heart attack now as well....but Mohammad was to the Muslims as venerated as Jesus was to Christians. I include him here for the same reasons Jesus is on the list. Those who think that Islam is all about hate, should really dig deeper, it is the actions of a small crackpot minority that have tainted it's perceptions in the west)

3. Ghandi (now he knew how to protest peacefully, unlike some of the current wacko peace-nics....)

4. Mother Theresa (just a kind hearted soul, and mother to the world)

5. Einstein (for helping us to understand a little bit more how the universe works)

TOP 5 BADDIES

1. Adolf Hitler (for obvious reasons)

2. Stalin (again, rather obvious)

3. John Wayne Gayce (I have this thing against evil clowns)

4. Ted Bundy

5. Osama Bin Laden (not only for 911, but for all the deaths still to come that will result from that attack....)



posted on Apr, 8 2003 @ 01:59 PM
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GOOD-
Jesus
Columbus
Geronimo
Alexander Graham Bell
Thomas Edison
BAD-
Hitler
Mussolini
Manson
"Jack the ripper"
Osama Bin Laden



posted on Apr, 8 2003 @ 02:33 PM
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ProudAmerican, I don't have to explain myself to you why I put Bush on my evil list and not Saddam, maybe because it listed 5 and not 6. You can interpret it anyway you like too, call me anything you want to, but it's my opinion and it stands.


Those who think that Islam is all about hate, should really dig deeper, it is the actions of a small crackpot minority that have tainted it's perceptions in the west)


If only your groupie Ultra could understand that.



posted on Apr, 8 2003 @ 02:51 PM
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I learned a bit about what they are really like, and the basic tenets of the faith preach gentleness, kindness, etc. However, the only time muslims make the news, its the extremist ones, claiming that their actions are done in Islam's name, that give it such a bad rap. Almost no effort has been made to show the majority of Americans what Islam is, and unfortunately, reports of terrorism are the only time they hear about it....

You really can't blame the majority for this, the real fault lies in the press...still though, people should put more into educating themselves about someone's religion, before deciding to hate it's followers....

Illmatic-Are you going to let Magestica get away with Columbus on her list?


[Edited on 8-4-2003 by Gazrok]



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