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The Microwave Oven: Is it actually hurting us? Likely so it appears...

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posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 12:57 PM
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Weren't microwave oven's originally an offshoot of radar technology. I think some of the earliest microwave's were even called "radar ranges." I seem to remember they only researched it because birds were being found "flash-fried" in/around the early radar dishes.

I am less concerned about what it's doing to my food and more concerned about what it's doing to me as I stand around waiting for it to finish. If you have any doubt's as to it's effective field range there is a simple experiment myself and a friend discovered on accident.

Take a relatively high powered magnet (neodynium is best) even one of the strong magnetic toys they call "zingers" and hold it within a few feet of an active microwave oven. You will be able to feel it vibrating along with the microwave. Once you recognize the vibration of the magnet back away slowly. We were able to "feel" it responding to the microwave as much as 20-30 feet away but could only observe it (with our eyes by hanging on a thread) within 5-10 feet.

Even though I think this has more to do with the properties of magnetic fields and their inate ability to assist with energy conversion (hence the magnetron) it was still very disconcerting.

I've made sure to leave the room when using a microwave ever since.
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edit on 13-9-2011 by Kicking2bears because: another typo... sorry.




posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 01:07 PM
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Even if they didn't turn into carcinogens, it definitely changes the molecular structure of the food to unnatural and non-nutritious. The whole reason to eat food is the nutritious content of that food. It is unnatural and should be avoided. I wish I had know this as a kid, but since I found out, I've stopped using it. Now, I wonder why it was even invented. Conventional cooking always wins.

Good find, though.



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 01:10 PM
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I had a theory recently that microwaves are designed to imunnize the populous to small doses radiation.

Would be handy evolutionary-wise.

Others might think it is to kill us slowly.

Could be both.
Their agenda is survival of the fittest, after all.



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 01:12 PM
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Excellent thread! S&F!
I haven't used a microwave in over 10 years. Someone once told me that eating microwaved food is like eating cardboard.



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 01:12 PM
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"Microwaves don't affect the molecular structure of the food, except through the thermal effects we associate with normal cooking (e.g., denaturing of proteins with heat and caramelizing of sugars). That's because, like all electromagnetic waves, microwaves are emitted and absorbed as particles called "photons." The energy in a microwave photon is so tiny that it can't cause any chemical rearrangement in a molecule. Instead, it can only add a tiny amount of heat to a water molecule."

Incidentally there are more carcinogens in the food that you bar b que than the food you cook in a microwave.
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posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 01:19 PM
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I always jokingly say

"In a 100 years people will look back on us and say-can you believe they used to microwave their food!"

and little kids will marvel at how stupid we were...




and then they will put their popcorn into the "big bang popcorn maker-makes a universe with every pop!"



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 01:20 PM
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Maybe they weren't lying when they said that we're getting the same radiation from Fukashima as we get from a microwave in a year.

Also does anyone feel like crap after eating microwaved food? I know I do
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posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 01:22 PM
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I agree, after all the Earth does its best to keep these things OUT.
And we go ahead and create a box that delivers them at the touch of button... only human



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 01:25 PM
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I spent 18 months working in a nuke plant and we could lay our dosimeter onto of the microwave and get 80 mr in less than a minute .......

I do know that butter melted in a microwave change its molecular structure



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 01:28 PM
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I do not like you phishyblankwaters, all you do is debunk and treat others like idiots for being careful. I remember you treating me like s%&* yesterday, your just a sheep calmer.


first I don't give a crap what you think about me. Second, what the hell are you talking about? Maybe you should stop whining and read what I posted. Op is asking questions, I helped point him towards the very studies he was asking for.

If your feelings get hurt suck it up princess




Or maybe he's just simply someone who knows his stuff enough to debunk this crap? if you aren't sure of what he says do your own research and show some proof that says otherwise.


almost, as I said in a post that guy obviously didn't read, I got the same chain email years ago that the OP probably got that started them looking into it.

What the "theory" requires is faith. Faith that when they say no studies have been done, it requires faith that you won't actually go look and find there are plenty of studies, decades of research, on this.

It also requires faith that you will not actually READ all of the information they source, because once you do, like I did, you find glaring holes and problems.

Namely, these studies are done 20 to 50 years ago, looking at types of radiation that is in no way comparable to a microwave oven.

A microwave cooks food by heating the water, it has no ability to change DNA or create new compounds or free radicals. At least, it doesn't have this effect in any of the valid sourced studies that have been done.

I have no clue what thread that user is complaining about, but more than likely I poo poo'd on their theory of something, and instead of seeing where they went wrong and learning from it, they choose to whine here in an offtopic post.
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posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 01:30 PM
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i havn't used a microwave since 2008...that's when i woke up



yeah microwaves change the molecular structure which means no bueno...

lol

hugs for you...

never too late to change



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 01:34 PM
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I haven't used a microwave in about a year. couldn't care less about the health risks, I think the food tastes nasty afterwards. Ovens and slow cookers are the way forward!



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 01:37 PM
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yeah microwaves change the molecular structure which means no bueno...


no, they totally don't change the molecular structure of anything. They HEAT WATER.

Would this tidbit from a cancerresearch group help? Probably not, no one is reading the information i posted or the links provided but me and the OP, everyone else read the thread title and felt compelled to respond with:

"duh teh waves B killingz uzzz"


Microwave ovens don’t make foods radioactive. They just heat them. Microwave ovens heat food by producing radiation which is absorbed by water molecules in the food. This makes the water molecules vibrate and produce heat, which cooks the food.

Any modern day microwave oven in good condition is perfectly safe as long as you follow the instructions for use. If you use a microwave oven in the correct way there is no known harmful effect on humans. But people still tend to worry. Understanding the different types of radiation may help to reassure you that cooking in a microwave is not dangerous and won’t cause cancer.

Although microwaves are safe to use it is important to point out that cooking in them can affect the nutritional value of some foods - for example, fruit and vegetables. But nutrients are lost when heating foods in any way - boiling, grilling, frying or even steaming. As long as you don't overcook foods, microwaving can actually be quite a healthy way to cook, as it uses only a little water. The best way to keep as many nutrients as possible in fruit and vegetables is to use as little water as you can and not overcook them.


Source

now as we already discovered, no one will follow that link, so lets clear this up quickly and technically (wipe away the tears, no one cares)


Non ionising radiation has enough energy to move things around inside a cell but not enough to change cells chemically. The radiation from a microwave oven is non ionising.


See. 3 seconds of research and you see that a microwave uses non-ionising radiation which has no ability to modify a cell.

nutritional loss via a microwave is comparable to any other means of cooking, it's a fact. In fact, as someone else pointed out, there are more carcinogens in your food when you BBQ than leaving a glass of milk in a microwave for 100000 years.

It's basic science, and this same science is what allows our medical devices to work and not melt your skull.
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posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 01:41 PM
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I think the average person like myself who only uses the microwave maybe three or four times a month should have nothing to worry about, even if microwaves are slightly unsafe we can just add it to the very long list of other things that are. And even disregarding that, heating plastics in the microwave and allowing all that crap to leech in to your food should be enough to put people off using it often, even if the mechanism behind how microwaves cook is safe. Of course there are a minority of people(i have a friend like this) who literally use the microwave for nearly everything because they are unable to cook a decent meal for themselves, i can see how this could be a problem health wise, but as i said people who do this are a minority...most of us have nothing to worry about and should not be put off using it now and again.

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posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 01:43 PM
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applause...you're part of the 2/3... ~.~

and dont judge my language....well i could have put it into a more poetic way but i think you understood it and so do all others here...

and if you think that my age is in relation to my way of speaking in the internetz - you're absolutly wrong...i am currently writing my B.A.

and now go and judge the content of my post and not the way i verbalized it...



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 01:43 PM
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I am sorry but birth is terminal and who's to say we dont need more radiation to advance into becoming higher frequency energy beings?



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 01:43 PM
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I think even if it is proven beyond doubt that microwave ovens are hazardous that they would still remain very popular. It is like a TV, alcohol, cigarettes, World of Warcraft etc. Most people would take the risk due to the ease of use - microwave popcorns are just too damn awesome. I don't use microwave any more due to risks involved but I did few years ago and its amazingly time-saving, a ultimate fast-food utility and I never managed to get those perfect popcorns
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posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 01:46 PM
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Even though I think this has more to do with the properties of magnetic fields and their inate ability to assist with energy conversion (hence the magnetron) it was still very disconcerting.


That's exactly what it is, the EMF created by any electrical device, and running water in pipes as well. The non-ionising radiation produced inside a microwave can only extend a few inches from the device, around 2 inches I believe is quoted in one of the links I posted.

EMF is something entirely different and THAT is still being debated as to if it is harmful, some people claim to be "allergic" to it and are trying to get cellphones, wifi, everything, banned.



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 01:47 PM
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Excellent thread it makes since. There is nothing natural about what a microwave does. I have a idea, why dont someone do a study showing the cancer rate or any other realated diseases increase since microwave was invented and another before it was invented. I think that we would be able to see what a microwave do to us a little better.



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 01:49 PM
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When i was a child my mam and nanna stopped from standing in front of the microwave they said it cooked your bones. Werent they inveted in the war as a way of communcatingg with each other?




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