Like The Liberal Anti-War Movement The Tea Party Has Been Hijacked

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
What it really is, is that the Democrat Party is the de-facto Communist Party party in the USA,

Really? I've met communists in my time, I've met European socialists, and believe you me, they do not in anyway consider the democratic party communist. You been out of the US before?

If you prefer to lump all democrats as communists, that's your deal I guess. It isn't reality.

people ask me why I don't vote any Democrats, and the answer is quite simply that everything that comes out of the Democrat camp is opposed to everything I believe in.

And instead you support the Republicans because they follow what you believe in? Or am I wrong? Are you not a republican voter? I'd just like to clarify this with you.

The Democrat Party sponsors corrupt Unions which further exasperates joblessness

Goodness knows we actually get representation in work place. It's back to bashing the Unions.

So what's the tea party plan?

Eliminate minimum wage?
Declare welfare programmes like medicare "socialist" or "communist"?
Insist that folks leave unions for their own benefits? Trust the corporations?
Tax cuts for the wealthy?

Who really supports the establishment here? If this is the tea party plan, it's no wonder the Republicans are the favourable choice.

divide-and-concquer atmosphere

You want to talk to me about this divide and conquer atmosphere?

Democrat Party is the de-facto Communist Party

to put it into Marxian terms for you

Green Party stuff is just more communism.

In other threads you wasted no time referring to members like me as statists, anarchists, communists.

Divide and conquer you say? You're a perfect demonstration of this. The tea parties are doing a great job as well. It's "my way or the highway"

Right.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Maybe not, but MoveOn is Soros funded

What is Soros guilty of other than donating millions to democratic politicians?

... oh wait... I get it... he's guilty of donating to democrats as opposed to republicans....

Gotcha.

I posted somewhere an audio of Communist Party leaders talking about all the great programs the Democrat Party is sponsoring

And this makes the democratic party communist? It's no secret that the democratic party is less conservative to that of the republican party, that's for sure.

Democrat Party platform is pushing Socialist programs.

And what is the republican platform for socialist programmes? I saw the GOP debates the other day, you should watch it... or did you already? Socialism is only bad when you're talking about liberals. When it comes your constituents, most of whom are conservative elderly and their dependence on these programmes, it's a different tune.

This idea that welfare should only be a private matter, it's beyond reality. This is why republican politicians dare not take the actual step of abolishing these programmes. They'll talk against it, but they won't touch it. Until the tea parties and republicans walk the talk, don't talk to me about socialist programmes.

reply to post by Southern Guardian
SG, your hypocrisy is showing. Here's you slamming the Koch Bros, while defending Soros. YOU may see this as apples/oranges, but other will see it as true-blue hypocrisy.

Originally posted by Southern Guardian

Originally posted by Misoir
I have noticed a large assault upon the Koch brothers here on ATS, claiming that they alone are trying to hijack America or bring it under complete corporate control. I ask you, is this not what every other corporation and billionaire wants to do? So why must you hit the Koch brothers so hard?

Because they are the pushers behind the tea party movement. People claim the tea parties are purely grass roots, we refer back to Kock and their industrial associations, their corporate agenda, and our references that this is anything but a grassroots movement. Are the Koch brothers guilty of leading an ideologically driven crowd to do their bidding? No, nothing illegal there. If people want to lobby that say taxes get completely eliminated for everybody wealthy, there is nothing wrong. But to argue this is purely a grassroots movement and associations with industrial lobbyists is irrelevant, well, that's a load of crock.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
So if Paul does not win the nomination, would you vote for Obama?

I can say that, barring any better DNC candidate coming forward, I will be voting for Obama if Dr. Paul does not win the nomination. I would rather have another four years exactly like Obama's first four than to have any of the other GOP candidates take the helm. They all scare the crap out of me. Again: If Obama promised to do no better in the next four years, he'd still be less frightening than those guys up there last night.

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ummm ok, do you by any chance have a picture of Che Guevara in your bedroom?

Oh, I get it. I must be a revolutionary because I don't like corrupt snake whisperers who think the answer is to make the richest people even richer while dismantling our government to save money while completely ignoring the war and the true welfare recipients (military, dairy industry, oil industry, ultra wealthy, banks, etc)?

If having a picture of Che Guevara in a bedroom is indicative of thinking that their sort of mentality is completely moronic, then I'll use Che's face to freakin' wallpaper my entire house then use it as siding on the outside. Then I'll paint his face all over my car and sky write it above my house while smoking a big fat Cuban cigar.

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Janky Red

 

and the democrats doing whatever they want makes no never mind to you

you know those people who control the governemnt and continues to add to their own power constantly

and demonze and vilfiy anyone who thinks "hey maybe a smaller goverment aint such bad idea" oh you know

those people whose heros are chez and mao devout communists whose credo is power comes from the barrel of a gun and who uses any means necessary to achieve their end goals.thats where that tag line of the "ends justify the means" funny part to get back on topic are all those people are anti war just when theres an R by their name but seem to do far worse.

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Doesn't sound much different than any of the money-hungry cronies we have in the White Street...err I mean White House sorry I was thinking of Wall Street.

reply to post by MustNotSpeak


yeah yeah same tune different day different thread

and here is my response to that tune.

the corruuption of wall street is nothing i repeat NOTHING compared that to the current government of this country

The tea party is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the GOP, or more like the neo-cons in the GOP. Just look at how many TP donations have been used to benefit the GOP!!

I think the GOP set this up in the first place. Some of the TP ideals are just plain unrealistic or show an incredible lack of eocnomic/political knowledge...many of those ideals were a hindrance to getting GOP people elected because they were just that crazy. So they created the TP, a more extreme wing of the GOP thinking that those TP will automatically play ball with the GOP given that the GOP is more right than the DEMs. Kinda backfired though, the TP is incredibly stuborn in situations where it borders on stupidity. The recent debt ceiling discussions are a good example of that.

If anything, this weakened the GOP...and created a clown party the entire world's now laughing at. Just go to Youtube and search for "tea party explained, korea" and you'll know what I mean

reply to post by neo96

the corruuption of wall street is nothing i repeat NOTHING compared that to the current government of this country

There's no difference really given that all parties are now wholly-owned sock puppets of Wall Street and corporate America

reply to post by MrXYZ


go ahead and hate the rich and corporations you know those people who make everything you use and pay you.

for once id love to hear an orginal thought that non stop demogaguery of communist manifesto where everything should be free.

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by MustNotSpeak

 

yeah yeah same tune different day different thread

and here is my response to that tune.

the corruuption of wall street is nothing i repeat NOTHING compared that to the current government of this country

Oh really? I thought they were the same entity?
Darn.

Just ask Obama how many times he's tried to get in bed with the 'Fat Cats'.
Obama Reaches Out to Wall Street Donors

To offset those defections, Mr. Obama’s campaign has deployed a corps of loyal Wall Street supporters who have fanned out to defend the president’s record and stoke fatigued donors. They include Robert Wolf, the chief executive of UBS Group Americas; the hedge fund managers Orin S. Kramer and Eric Mindich; and Mark T. Gallogly, a co-founder of Centerbridge Partners.

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by MrXYZ

 

go ahead and hate the rich and corporations you know those people who make everything you use and pay you.

for once id love to hear an orginal thought that non stop demogaguery of communist manifesto where everything should be free.

How exactly am I hating the rich/corporations??

I just don't think they should have a disproportionate say in what's happening to the country. Right now, they hold all the cards and all Average Joe votes are pretty much meaningless. That's a FACT!

Corporations shouldn't pay less taxes than the average citizen, and the same goes for the top 1%. Right now, there's too many tax looopholes (I know, I used them when I was working in NYC) ensuring that those with money (to hire a good tax expert) don't pay their fair share. I'm not even blaming corporations for that!! Their goal is to make PROFIT, that's all they (should) care about...but I look down on politicians letting themselves be bought.

This whole "they need those tax breaks to create jobs" argument is DEMONSTRABLY flawed given that ever since those tax breaks were introduced, we actually LOST jobs.

PS: I see you are falling right into the left vs right mantra, just goes to show how great they are at distracting average citizens. All on the left are Soros-sponsored communist pothead hippies, right?

reply to post by MrXYZ


hilarious havent been paying attention to current events where that "Average citizen" half this country isnt paying any taxes whatsoever.

and to clarify that income tax then add those people

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by MrXYZ

 

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fine be robin hood and keep robbing the people that create the wealth so that you can turn the rest of the country into the hood.

Obama already beat you to it. Don't you remember FOX's own Eric Bolling's segment, "Hoods in the Hizzy"?

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Southern Guardian

 

SG, your hypocrisy is showing. Here's you slamming the Koch Bros, while defending Soros. YOU may see this as apples/oranges,

Actually I do see your comaprison as apples and oranges. The argument regarding Soros has always been that he has been guilty of funding some communist plot. But he's not guilty of anything aside from funding democratic politicians, neither have I ever denied Soro's political Agenda.

I stated that the Koch brothers have a corporate political agenda and that's why they drive the tea parties.

Nothing hypocritical here.