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people are infringing on my copywritten ideas do i have recourse from ats

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posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:29 PM

Originally posted by yeahright

Originally posted by XPLodER
without costly legal fees how do i protect my IP from being effectivly taken with no originating metion of its source?

I'm not altogether sure I understand your concern. If you think you need legal advice, you need to consult an attorney. Whatever free information about that you can obtain here is going to be worth exactly what you pay for it, as free legal advice always is.

Everyone here is for all intents and purposes, anonymous. We don't vet for identification, except for unusual circumstances where we'd need to verify someone claiming to a "celebrity" or at least of some renown, is in fact who they claim to be.

The most we could ever do is tie a post in with an account, and the person behind that account could be anyone.

If you're looking for some sort of legal protection for some earth shaking idea, you should no more post it here (or anywhere else where you're anonymous) than write it on a wall on a busy street corner. You need a lawyer, not sketchy commentary from other anonymous users.

very well put, thank you for your responce
i guess i have to go see a patent lawyer to see if what i want to post should be protected first.
if not then ill post it here as usual


posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:50 PM
reply to post by XPLodER

To put things in perspective, perhaps it would be useful to post a link post/ideas here, linked to those same ideas/concept posted elsewhere on the web.

posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 05:34 PM

Originally posted by aaa2500

Originally posted by XPLodER

and no thats no typo


I am curious why you insist on using the term copywrite instead of copyright.

Both words are very clearly defined in the english language

from your links,

Copywriters (as writers of copy are called) are used to help create direct mail pieces, taglines, jingle lyrics, web page content (although if the purpose is not ultimately promotional, its author might prefer to be called a content writer), online ads, e-mail and other Internet content, television or radio commercial scripts, press releases, white papers, catalogs, billboards, brochures, postcards, sales letters, and other marketing communications media. It can also appear in social media content including blog posts, tweets, and social-networking site posts

the reason your law changes effect this issiue,

Today copyright laws are partially standardized through international and regional agreements such as the Berne Convention and the WIPO Copyright Treaty. Although there are consistencies among nations' copyright laws, each jurisdiction has separate and distinct laws and regulations covering copyright. National copyright laws on licensing, transfer and assignment of copyright still vary greatly between countries and copyrighted works are licensed on a territorial basis. Some jurisdictions also recognize moral rights of creators, such as the right to be credited for the work.


i am in such a jurisdiction that recognised the rights of the creator and america was also
but no more................

in new zealand

A copyright is a set of exclusive rights granted by a state to the creator of an original work or their assignee for a limited period of time upon disclosure of the work. This includes the right to copy, distribute and adapt the work. In most jurisdictions copyright arises upon fixation and does not need to be registered. Copyright owners have the exclusive statutory right to exercise control over copying and other exploitation of the works for a specific period of time, after which the work is said to enter the public domain. Uses covered under limitations and exceptions to copyright, such as fair use, do not require permission from the copyright owner. All other uses require permission. Copyright owners can license or permanently transfer or assign their exclusive rights to others.


if my govenment has a moral obligation to credit the creator of the work,
the america govenment has removed this obligation from their system,
then how can i bring ideas (they may not be earth shaking ideas ),
but under my juristiction i get credit, if i choose to publish in amerca,
there is no protection from exploitation without credit,

this makes it very costly to protect - Cached

Intellectual property (IP) is a term referring to a number of distinct types of creations of the mind for which a set of exclusive rights are recognized—and the corresponding fields of law.[1] Under intellectual property law, owners are granted certain exclusive rights to a variety of intangible assets, such as musical, literary, and artistic works; discoveries and inventions; and words, phrases, symbols, and designs. Common types of intellectual property rights include copyrights, trademarks, patents, industrial design rights and trade secrets in some jurisdictions.

which make places where ideas are expressed a "goldmine" of IP to exploit with the idea to patent it,

and the creators of content are exploited.
am i then forced to keep my content inside the juristiction from where i arise as to directly protect it from exploitation?


posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 05:42 PM
reply to post by Argyll

the matter is a little bit sensitive for me atm,
i do not wish to elaberate on why i require the answers,
i need to know how to handle the changes in law in the usa ,
compaired to the laws of my country

i want to open source information and science
"into the public domain"

these changes in law make it very difficult to do that now

posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 05:51 PM
Seems to me both countries are more or less the same. In both cases you have the "right" to govern your work for a given amount of time. In the US it is now that author's life plus 70 years, up from two terms of 28 years not all that long ago. Authors' rights have been vastly extended over the last few decades. It's a lot stronger.

In terms of COPYRIGHT (and copyright only) you are ONLY protected in your expression of an idea, NOT THE IDEA ITSELF. You have not shown any acknowledgement of this issue. If you continue to not understand this you're not going to get anywhere.

You also continue to quote "copywrite" as if it is the same as "copyright" the first refers to advertising copy to selll stuff; the second refers to protecting your expression of words. If you continue to not understand this you're not going to get anywhere.

IF you want to protect your writing, do so through COPYRIGHT.
IF you want to protect a logo or name, do so through TRADEMARK.
IF you want to protect intellectual property (your ideas), do so through a PATENT.

COPYRIGHTS are 'good' automatically from the work's inception. You don't even need a (c) 2011 on the work any more. You don't need to register copyrights any more (though it proves that you wrote it more or less when you said you did.)

IF someone has copied your work, tell them not to. Issue them a DMCA takedown notice. The copyright owner has to do that. So go do it.

I think we've done just about everything we can to explain that to you. The ball is now in your court. There is nothing more ATS can do for you.

posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 06:10 PM
reply to post by schuyler

well i guess you have tryed very hard to answer my questions and for that i am greatful

and i think i understand more than i did before i started the thread about how to protect IP
at this point i will not waste any more of your time on this matter


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