reply to post by anon72
You said in the OP
"...Source: www.illuminol.net... Now, this article actually makes sense to me. Especially with all the things I have learned or discovered since
finding ATS. To me, Time Travel would be the most likely aspect of these finds that we have that can't be explained. I really think it is more along
the lines of current beliefs and science have our history wrong, incomplete or just don't possess the evidence to show that the human race has been
on this planet a LONG LONG TIME> What do you think?"
Well, I've now read the linked article and I have a couple of points/questions for you if thats ok?
Q. If Time Travel is the most likely explanation for the various anomalous finds mentioned in the above linked web page, could you please explain why
a technologically advanced time-traveler would have in his possession;
An Iron Pot
or Shoes with "stitches" visible on the soles?
P1. It seems highly unlikely to me, that a technologically advanced time-traveller would have any of these things.
I'm a firm believer that the earth has gone through many cycles of creation/destruction (including the development of advanced civilisations).
These cycles may have come to an end by natural means (large comet impact, axis/pole shift etc)
or by the actions of those advanced civilisations themselves (nuclear war, pollution etc)
Any remnants of these advanced civilisations, having survived the destruction of their civilisation, would be forced to return to a very basic
"survival mode" existence, without the infrastructure or technology that their civilisation had developed.
Imagine for example, if a huge comet hit us tomorrow, and 99.9% of life on our planet is destroyed.
Massive earthquakes and tsunamis plague the surviving individuals.
The suns rays are blacked out by months of dust clouds, killing most of the plant life and plunging the temperatures way down.
All power is lost.
The few remaining humans have to scratch an existence by whatever means they can.
They gather a few weapons.
Manage to hoard some fuel maybe.
They scavenge, they hunt whatever animals are left alive, they live off of whatever tinned foods they can find, clean drinking water is very
Disease is rife.
They will literally be fighting other humans for the right to live.
Everyone left alive, will be competing for very limited resources, many more will die.
It is not safe to be around other humans, so the cities become deserted wastelands.
In a few years, the ammunition has run out, the fuel has run out.
Any machines which still worked would eventually wear out.
The buildings, without proper maintenance, fall into disrepair and collapse.
Clothes wear out. Shoes wear out.
The survivors don't have the skills or knowledge to make new parts for the machines, or make ammunition or fuel.
But somehow they've survived. They've found shelter, perhaps in caves.
They've even managed to rediscover how to make fire, (we all know it's possible with friction right?).
and so it begins...
After a while, they no longer have cars, guns, or computers...
But they remember that early civilisations used spears and maybe bows & arrows.
They pass on the basic skills that they learn and slowly but surely start again.
They leave a bare foot print in the mud, which solidifies and becomes stone over the next million years.
They start using animal skins for clothing and basic shoes.
They leave a shoe-print with visible stitching in the mud...
They eventually develop the skill of releasing iron from its ore, and begin producing basic tools, pots and nails.
They drop a nail in the mud... They lose a pot which sinks in a bog...
Eventually they make alloys and develop screw nails etc
Maybe even decorated, machined balls for whatever purpose!! and they lose some...
Modern society evolves. Technology evolves. Then, many thousands of years later... a comet approaches...
These cycles may have happened several times (many "ancient" cultures like the maya believe that we are currently in the Fourth, Fifth or even Sixth
cycle), so theoretically we could be seeing "anomalous" objects from civilisations which existed one, two, three or more cycles ago.
This, to me makes perfect sense. No time travel necessary.
Our current scientific community, having no coherent mass of evidence to support the theory of several cycles of civilisation, tries to fit any
archeological finds into our current cycle, and that is perhaps why some of these finds are interpreted as being anomalous? But if you imagine that
there have been several of these cycles, then the finds suddenly make sense.
Anyway, sorry for the long post, and thanks very much for the thought provoking thread.