US Boots on the Ground in Libya, Pentagon Confirms

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posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 12:14 PM
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US Boots on the Ground in Libya, Pentagon Confirms


www.foxnews.com

Despite repeated assurances from President Obama and military leaders that the U.S. would not send uniformed military personnel into Libya, four U.S. service members arrived on the ground in Tripoli over the weekend.

According to Pentagon spokesman Capt. John Kirby, the four unidentified troops are there working under the State Department's chief of mission to assist in rebuilding the U.S. Embassy.
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posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 12:14 PM
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While the article states that its only a few EOD's and they are working under the direction of the US Department of State, could this be the proverbial camel's noes?

More from the article:

U.S. officials speaking on the condition of anonymity have acknowledged the CIA has had a small number of so-called "spotters" on the ground to assist in the NATO mission. It's also well known that other foreign governments have sent special operations forces to fight on the ground with the rebels.


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posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 12:23 PM
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Just what I didnt want happen happened.
US Boots on the Ground in Libya: Hell NO!
Walks away from Keyboard scratching his head muttering Obamas name not very politely...



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 12:24 PM
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Couple of thoughts:

1) Announced over the 9/11 weekend, which filled up the news, so few would notice.

2) Personaly (and I know several would disagree) I don't consider a team of people looking at rebuilding the embassy a big deal. In fact, I wouldn't have considered special ops guys on the ground directing the bombers and doing damage assessment as "boots on the ground". Technically that would be supporting the air campaign and not ground warefare. Now, if a brigade of the 82nd gets sent in say, for "security"; THAT's "boots on the ground".

3) Prior to Quaddfiy, the US had fairly good relations with Lybia, i ncluding a full regular AFB (Wheeler, I think). Not saying we need that again, but just pointing out the history.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 12:25 PM
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we have an Embassy there. Did I miss something here?
4 unidentified troops! common, "US Boots on the ground" is kind of an idiom for - Invasion/combat operation involving platoons, companys, battalions, regiments, - you know, the rest of command.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 12:27 PM
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The embassy is still American soil, so legally still no boots on the ground. Every other embassy from every other country will do the same.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 12:27 PM
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Are you really surprised or offended that the CIA is there? I am pretty sure the CIA has agents in EVERY country (as they should). The article says there are four troops that are assisting with rebuilding the embassy.

The question is: Why do they need military troops to help rebuild an embassy? Are they sent to be martyrs? If they get attacked or god forbid killed there will be some real boots on the ground then!


Two of the military personnel are explosive-ordnance experts who will be used to disable any explosives traps left in the embassy. The other two are "general security," according to Kirby.


Kirby also made clear these troops are in no way part of a military operation on the ground. They are armed, however, if for some reason they need to protect themselves.


The troops are only expected to be there for a short while. After the assessment of the embassy is complete, they are expected to leave.


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posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 12:28 PM
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Oh *snip* this is bad, very bad!
Mr Obama has circumvented the American Constitution, declared war on Libya, and is now going to waste more American, and others lives on his personal jihad!
(shakes head mumbling about Obamas Oedipus Rex complex)
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posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 12:29 PM
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If we have an embassy there. Wouldn't that mean we have troops guarding the embassy?
Hence they were there all along?

I don't get how 4 guys going over to asses damage constitutes boots on the ground.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 12:30 PM
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I can assure you right now, that we had "boots on the ground" in Libya BEFORE POTUS ever uttered his assurances. We have "boots" in places we aren't even suppose to be GUARANTEED!!



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 12:31 PM
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I told you so.
*crossing arms, sounding smug, and feeling depressed*



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by watchdog
I can assure you right now, that we had "boots on the ground" in Libya BEFORE POTUS ever uttered his assurances. We have "boots" in places we aren't even suppose to be GUARANTEED!!


You are absolutely correct sir.
We definitely do have boots in places we should never be.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 12:41 PM
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Thanks Pentagon, I really needed confirmation. (Sarcasm)

Any country you see on the news, the US is there; and the countries you don't hear about on the news the US is there too. That's what they do, World Police. ie Spend your tax dollars to claim new oil to make more money and higher the price of gas for the US ahhhhh God Bless America. (More Sarcasm)



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 12:41 PM
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in case yall didnt know,

months ago already, USA had military troops from Afghanistan recruiting and training secret al-CIAda cells and planted them in Libya to add fire to the 'revolting citizens' image we see on MSM


and CIA relocated Gadafi safely. at face value you see a USAled NATO that even killed Gadafi's son & grandkids but they are sparing him for now, money buys intel plus they been friends all along its just thats popular sentiment wants Gadafi out too so has to go whilst great advantage to install al-CIAda trained puppet leadership & cells in Libya for future use.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 12:42 PM
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I have a hard time believing anything coming out of the Pentagon or the DOD. They don't have a great record
of telling the truth about much of anything.

My money is on there being many more than 4 advisers being there....many more!

In war............"The first casualty is THE TRUTH"

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posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 12:48 PM
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a more interesting headline or article may have included how much got spent on getting that far.

8 boots coming from 80 billion worth of ordinance on the ground in libya? i ahve got no idea what that cost> anybody else?



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 12:50 PM
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posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 12:52 PM
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This is complete crap. I was in OIF, not the occupation the actual war. A "NO FLY ZONE" requires 2 things. Tracking and Interception. Interception can be done a couple of was i.e. F-18s, patriots, any sort of SAM, etc. Tracking is done ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY by radar, not by satellite. I'd be impossible to see every flying object over most nations with a satellite, but not by radar.

That being said you need a radar network to track aircraft. One ship off the coast can't do it. So unless Libya was letting us their radars to shoot down their planes, we all but had to have "US Boots" on the ground.

Now you could TRY to argue that France, England, etc. with confirmed boots on the ground sent us the radar information. As far as I know and from my experience, we can't do that. When the Brits in Iraq called us for FA support we had to reconfirm any targeting data unless they sent us hard coordinates (X,Y). That said we're talking about about flying objects, you can't track that with just hard coordinates. This may have changed since 03, but I doubt it.

Go read about the 14 series of the US army MOSs.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 12:55 PM
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probably a special team to secure the building not just from explosives but also any evesdropping devices that may have been planted, but since the ground may be in libya but technically its american soil it probably just about gets away with it

if they really wanted to keep it quiet surely they'd of hired some ex-special forces experts who now live in civvy street and sent them over as part of the embassy staff



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 01:02 PM
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Yeppers, I can say this with assurance because my hubby is a soldier and we have been in the military community for over 15 years. Wives talk. Soldiers talk. Sometimes it's just innocent talk that later you realize, "Whoa, um, hmmmm, this is all connected." And sometimes these same people just can't keep their mouths shut and give out OPSEC details because it keeps them in the good graces of their family and friends or they are in the throws of drunkedness and have no idea they are "spilling the beans" at the moment. And then you have the real knuckleheads that just get off on revealing OPSEC details because it makes them feel and look important and like they have the inside scoop. Bottom line, we always have "boots on the ground" somewhere. But considering this is a conspiracy site and knowing our government, no one should be surprised at this pitiful excuse of a revelation by POTUS lol.

Oh and I edit to add, that my hubby just got back from a deployment a few months ago and worked out of the US Embassy there for 9 months. The people that provide security for the embassy there were the US Marines (this is no secret, the media made sure of that during the beginning of all these riots in Egypt) and a handful of highly trained and scrutinized locals, and it is my understanding that they provide security for all the US Embassys along with a handful of locals. But I could be wrong I guess. My point is that the Embassy in Libya had to have security and I highly doubt that they contracted that security completely out to the locals, especially considering the embassy is considered US soil and we have "interests" to protect. So we had to have had "boots on the ground" way before the Libya issues started.
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