Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by Kokatsi
In case you just ignore this, I'll expand.
His supervisor, who was with him at the time, claims Rodriguez is wrong.
Rodriguez NEVER made these claims to the 9/11 commission (though he DID lie and claim he did)
He's repeatedly lied about the fireball int he shaft, claiming it couldn't have happened, then telling the truth, when it suited his story.
And on and on...
Another lying truther.
I will investigate this. The Reps wanted to decorate man and first he accepted it. He could be rich and famous. He is not a "truther" but found that
that kind of people are willing to listen to him.
Possibly you find the following story lying, but then I will close up here because the truth will come out :
before the 911 commission:
Quote: Cheney: "The orders still stand" as Flight 77 approaches the Pentagon with no action taken to defend it
Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta was in the
Presidential Emergency Operating Center with Vice President Cheney as
Flight 77 approached Washington, D.C. On May 23, 2003 in front of the
9/11 Commission, Secretary Mineta testified:
"During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there
was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, "The plane is 50 miles out." "The plane is 30 miles out." And when it got
down to "the plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the Vice
President, "Do the orders still stand?" And the Vice President turned
and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand.
Have you heard anything to the contrary?"
As the plane was not shot down are we to take it that the orders were to let the plane find its target"
This was reposted on prisonplanet but you can find the original if you research.
However, if you take the position "everybody is lying if the contradict me," your own arguments will be soon dismissed by rational people who still
want to work out. From crazy holographs to the idiotic Ben Ladin theory put into the official story (no explanation why the planese were not shot down
as they usually are), people will arrive at the truth. It is simply that we are iving in interesting times.
And the psychology is not simple. Re-view the opening video. Nowhere do experts say you have to buy the wildest truth 911 package.
When I lived in the East Bloc, I met people who were fervently defending the old Soviet system. Not because of the good things they actually did, but
the things ordinary people disliked (like not being allowed to travel to the West, or lying about '56 as if it was a 'counterrevolution'.
They did that out of FEAR.
Mostly they were fearing that they would lose their cherished beliefs!
That is where the blind one-sidedness comes.
Can you find one simple detail or incident where you made a bridge to a "truther" and said there might be something in what you say?
Partisanship is just hot air.
Merely calling the other party liars is what Israelis and Palestinians routinely do. Finally one will not really credit either group.
And, there were great incentives for those who supported Bush's weak conspiracy theory. Richness, political fame, good image in a country that regards
itself patriotic etc. There was absolutely no gain if you went to the other camp. Zilch. You were confronted by angry relatives, people fearful iof
the growing power of an absurd madman, fired from jobs, osstraticesd and only surrounded by fringe people who could be --- sometimes that. IS that
your social vision or is Silverstein one that got off better from 911?
edit on 9/25/2011 by Kokatsi because: adding source to my off-site