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Enough with the dishonest behaviour Truthers - I'm calling you out.

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posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 04:30 PM
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reply to post by nicolaisecret
 


Amen, Brother.
Second




posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 04:32 PM
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reply to post by waypastvne
 


It didn't? The walls are at least 18" thick and that "aircraft" went through 3 rings. 1 ring=3' x 3 rings = 9 feet.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 04:33 PM
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Jfk is dead? How? When? Whodunnit?



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 04:35 PM
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if the first poster hates "the truthers" so much, then why is he coming to ATS?.....and, to all his "haters"....don't take the bait.....I am college educated..(BS in Ed.), a former teacher, and present small business owner....I am no wingnut fringe anything.....but I do know that we were lied to many, many times by our government....and we will continue to be lied to as long as we roll over and play dead when "they" speak....



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by doryinaz
if the first poster hates "the truthers" so much, then why is he coming to ATS?.....and, to all his "haters"....don't take the bait.....I am college educated..(BS in Ed.), a former teacher, and present small business owner....I am no wingnut fringe anything.....but I do know that we were lied to many, many times by our government....and we will continue to be lied to as long as we roll over and play dead when "they" speak....


This was the scope of my own post; look at "curiosities" and ask questions. The truth is, I have no idea what happened. I don't know who did it or why. I won't even speculate. But I do know there are too many unanswered questions to roll over and lick big brother's boots. I refuse to do it.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 04:40 PM
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Sorry, but your post is so full of...lies.....its hard to know where to start. I mean I tried, but even my computer couldnt handle the flow of false information when I quoted your post....



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by Jobeycool
If you think gigiantic jets cannot bring down giant buildings when you crash them into them you are down right frightening stupid.


Your ignorance holds no bounds, a brief description of how structural engineering protocols work.....

1). You are selected to design a building with certain aspects, as is the case with all skyscrapers - withstanding plane crashes and fires are mandatory.

2). These aspects are subject to intensive tests including fires, kinetic energy impact forces, heat and load distribution, absorbing anything that could possibly be thrown at them and some.

3). If however there is an incident which occurs and a structure collapses due to structural failure brought about by failing to do what it was designed to do, the engineers responsible for it`s design have committed a crime of causing injury/death resulting from gross incompetence and negligence, at the very least, insurance companies would counter sue the ass out of them.

media.abovetopsecret.com...

4). Why did this not happen?



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 04:40 PM
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so just by your numbers (sounds reliable) 1.5x3=9?
flawless logic

you may have been sarcastic, i cant tell. my apologies if so
edit on 12-9-2011 by Venomilk because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 04:42 PM
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Unfortunately for you, your friends in high places cannot alter PHYSICS. That is just the nature of nature, you who didn't make it, can't change it.

Clue: All the answers are in the Physics. Until you and your friends in high places can change that, then I think I will look to the physics for my answers. Oh, by the way, words are man made. That you and your friends can change. Say whatever the Hell you want. Words and Physics aren't the same. Go figure.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 04:43 PM
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Look at the tape of when Andrew Card told Bush we were under attack.

When a state of emergency is declared, and there are hijacked planes of unknown number and location, the Secret Service has a very distinct protocol.

Take the POTUS to safety, no matter what he or anyone else may say.

So why does he sit there for a full 15 minutes, with not so much as a 'hey Mr. Prez, let's go?'

Damn the building physics, answer that one...



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 04:43 PM
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No, the exterior walls are 18 inches thick. Flight 77 hit ONE exterior wall going in, and one going out. The outer three rings are joined on the first two stories.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by Venomilk
reply to post by axslinger
 


so just by your numbers (sounds reliable) 1.5x3=9?
flawless logic

you may have been sarcastic, i cant tell. my apologies if so
edit on 12-9-2011 by Venomilk because: (no reason given)


I believe each ring has a front side and a back side so going through three of them is actually going through 6, not 3 walls that are 1.5 feet thick.

6 x 1.5 = 9

So this "aluminum" plane supposedly went through 9 feet of reinforced concrete



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 04:49 PM
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No, they have protocol to evacuate him when there is a DIRECT threat to him. He was in Florida, almost a thousand miles away. Time enough for the Secret Service to recheck the immeadiate area, make a few calls and THEN get him out of Dodge.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 04:51 PM
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thank you for clarifying. yes, yes, lol

and the nist report states what initialized the collapsing in one of the 10,000 pages. nope, not even in the first one



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 04:52 PM
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Enough with the dishonest government.Why don't you call them out for lying?Why don't you caqll them out for not investigating properly?Why don't you call them out on why they didn't include building 7?Or why they ignored all the witnesses testimonies about the explosions?Or how one of the hijackers passport mysteriously made it when 4 "indestructible" black boxes didn't?Or how 4 flights went unnoticed for an hour with no jets intercepting them?Or how building 7 fell exactly like a controlled demo from fire?It's unheard of!IIf tall steel and concrete buildings could be taken down like a controlled demo by fire then there wouldn't be no need for demolition companies now would there genius?



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 04:53 PM
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But what I always have to adress in these threads, and it's getting tedious....is that all "truthers" are different. So please OP stop trying to lump us all in the same group with all the same beliefs. You have some real idiot truthers. Like "no planers" or the guy who says "the falling man" picture is fake, and that a folded 20 shows the twin towers falling.

You have your Mihops, Lihops , all with different theories and different beliefs. So please stop with this "All you "truthers" business.

I could say the same for those that believe in the OS. Some are smart and have valid points and make good threads with links to back up thier opinions. Then you have OS believers well like you, the OP, you are to the Official Story group is kinda like the No-planers are to the Truth movement.

Both sides have some pretty ignorant people. As perfectly displayed by this thread.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 04:55 PM
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You think you can spot dishonesty ?

Seriously ? If you could do that ? You would be a truther !


edit on 12-9-2011 by randyvs because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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I just read all the posts to this thread, and I have to say, I'm kinda disappointed. Imo, you guys are going for each others throat over thinking for yourselves. If you are an ats member, you think outside the box, bottom line. Wheather 911 was an actual attack or an inside job, there will NEVER be a real 100% answer. I was a truther for years, still have a piece of me that is. But, I won't fight with people over opinions and such anymore. I am proud of the fact that there are so many people who still have the ability to think for themselves. We are an endangered species guys. Let's not self destruct here!!



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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hes simply saying, there is no proof that any of what you said happened at all. the official line,
this is why i think this thread is the most successful troll post ever, or a haven for all the disinfo agents

hint*-if its not in 9/11, its probably not disinfo



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
- The French use a demo technique, that doesn't use explosives, but does use the weight of upper floors to crush the lower floors. And guess what, a building destroyed this way looks EXACTLY like the Twin Towers.

Sorry I didn't have a chance to read the whole thread, so I don't know if anyone already pointed this out; But doesn't the above just prove the 'truther' argument? You're saying that the Twin Towers falling looked exactly like a French demolition technique where they don't use explosives. So that solves the whole issue of how they rigged the WTC without anyone knowing, right!



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