OK, We Know Who You Don't Like for POTUS. Is There Someone You DO?

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posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by Cuervo
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I have one simple criteria that has (so far) weeded out nearly everybody from my consideration as a candidate:

If a candidate does not explicitly promise an immediate withdrawal of all US troops from foreign land and the swift shut-down of all US military bases on foreign soil, that candidate will not be considered for being my president.

So far, only Ron Paul has promised that. We will see what the DNC has to offer but I doubt any will compete with his common sense approach to government. We need to go either all the way capitalist or all the way socialist. This worst-of-both-words hybrid we have now is failing. So I suppose if the DNC offered up a pacifist Marxist who promised all the same things Dr. Paul does, then I'll be torn between the two.


i agree, unless we end our over extended overseas commitments. we will go bankrupt.
having a finger in every pie worldwide, means every time someone sneezes, the american taxpayer bleeds.

our financial system is terminally flawed, and the congress will not indefinitely bail it out.

and the fake free trade of globalization will doom our economy.
add pharmaceuticals, agriculture(sugar), to free trade, giving the american consumer a chance to survive.

otherwise our system is on the path to self destruction and who is potus in irrelevant

and at least ron paul addresses our military overcommitment, a good start..




posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by Partygirl
My candidate would work together with like-minded candidates to legally dismantle the constitution (by vote, not by violence) and replace the three branches of government with a Theonomic Council given authority to implement biblical law (perhaps organized similar to the Judges in the Book of Judges).

Most of you won't agree with me lol.

But some of you will agree with me that the entire system top to bottom needs to be utterly scrapped (again, peacfully, through de-ratification of every ammenedment) and replaced with something more effective. Democracy...elections....Congres...the time of these things has passed. Search within, you will see I am correct.


Thats very similar to the Iranian model? Absolute moral and religious conviction aligned with absolute power is pretty much a guaranteed tyranny. Not cool.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 05:26 PM
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And if there is a Theonomic council let me ques they will be the ones who will interpret gods will or words or whatever. It's been done before and it failed, and it is known today as the dark ages.

Really partygirl you and your nutty religious views seriously have some holes in them, I would even prefer the way things are today then what you purpose, because at least this way peoples natures are kept in a sort of balance, if you try to go the god route as in gods will as the law of the land there natures and big headedness will know no bounds and the same old same old will run rampant. And who gets to interpret what god says. Some nut in a fancy hat, "oh wait now we get a council" so it will be a bunch of nuts in fancy hats. Ya bit difference there then what we have now.


You do realize none of them can actually communicate with god, they are all just lying and pulling # out there ass.


But some of you will agree with me that the entire system top to bottom needs to be utterly scrapped (again, peacfully, through de-ratification of every ammenedment) and replaced with something more effective. Democracy...elections....Congres...the time of these things has passed. Search within, you will see I am correct.


I agree that it would be best to scrapped from top to bottom, but replaced with your crazy ass idea. I have searched within and I think your wrong. Find another way. Yours will not work.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 05:31 PM
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YES!!! I think it should be Bobby Bouche.
YES... He couldn't do any worse then the ones we've had for the past 40 yrs.
"Goberment is the DEVIL!!!!"

Bobby Bouche
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posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by Partygirl

Originally posted by TsukiLunar
I would not stand for such a thing. Learn your history. End of discussion.


No.

No more learning history.

Soon it will be time to make some.


You know partygirl I really like you.

But dam you crazy when it comes to this. So learn some history. You cookie crazy religious nutter you, and you will see why you are wrong. Besides this ain't your story or there story, this is his story.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 05:54 PM
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Honestly I am for Ron Paul but think he needs to take a "Protectionism" stance as well, in other words, hard tarrifs for imports including those that moved to mexico and china from America, close our borders on the south and tariff the living H_LL out of those "American" companies working with the chep labor of the Chinese and Indian and MExican. That would certainly seal my deal to vote Ron Paul all the way.
And think about this with stiff tariffs, the cost of imports would far out expense the cost of building and assembling and hiring here to the consumer, so this would kill two birds with one stone, it would make our home products cheaper and demand would rise for American products. And why do we import food? We have a hell of enough here!!! Protectionism along with some tax breaks for anybody keeping their business within our borders and that's a great start!!!! So what if we are tariffed back? Really if they don't want our stuff who cares? We'd be more prospersous and live off what we have. But also there should be some incentives for innovation in non oil running vehicles, you know that thing America was once the leader in, innovation?



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 05:55 PM
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Well thanks I like you too.


But anyway, erm...he asked what candidate we wanted and I will say any candidate that can propose that program, to be legally implemented peacefully of course. I guess none of the mainstream candidates will sign off on it and I am not old enough to run myself, so does anyone over 35 (I think) want to step up to the plate and bat for Dominion? You will get my write-in vote if so and that's a fact.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by Partygirl
My candidate would work together with like-minded candidates to legally dismantle the constitution (by vote, not by violence) and replace the three branches of government with a Theonomic Council given authority to implement biblical law (perhaps organized similar to the Judges in the Book of Judges).

Most of you won't agree with me lol.

But some of you will agree with me that the entire system top to bottom needs to be utterly scrapped (again, peacfully, through de-ratification of every ammenedment) and replaced with something more effective. Democracy...elections....Congres...the time of these things has passed. Search within, you will see I am correct.


You know, I don't really love the idea of being burned at the stake myself...
I think about 20 thousand other Pagans would agree, it doesn't look like fun to me!



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 07:04 PM
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Well thanks I like you too.

Likewise.


But anyway, erm...he asked what candidate we wanted and I will say any candidate that can propose that program, to be legally implemented peacefully of course. I guess none of the mainstream candidates will sign off on it and I am not old enough to run myself, so does anyone over 35 (I think) want to step up to the plate and bat for Dominion? You will get my write-in vote if so and that's a fact.


Oh I am sure we can find a nutter that caters to your wants, and whatever group of peoples that you hang around with...For you see there is a puppet for every group of peoples and there wants.
I see no reason why the crazy religious folks cant have there very own spokespersons as well to play the game on the hill called "king of the hill"

Not sure what this dominion thing is but it does sound very restricting. You should be careful what you wish for, you just might get it and you will be old enough to regret it with time.

Anyways here are some questions for you...How come you so into this religion thing, Is it the lifestyle it promises or the weird hive minded construction of the world that it gives and comforts people with? For there is a certain simplicity to it that even I can understand and appreciate. Though it never lasts, but nothing ever does. So to each there own I guess.

Or did you just wake up one day and decided to join a crazy ass religious cult? Which is cool to, since I to in other lifetimes have done crazy ass things as well for no reason at all. What gives basically is what I am asking.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by galadofwarthethird

Anyways here are some questions for you...How come you so into this religion thing, Is it the lifestyle it promises or the weird hive minded construction of the world that it gives and comforts people with?


I was brought up with faith. My family, parents, and community are all deep believers. Every day growing up I could see how that faith manifested in the love our family and friends had and still has for each other. Did you know my father took a homeless boy in and fed him and sheltered and educated him, spontaneously, for almost a year? And people talk only of the cynical side of religion. People call us hicks and ignorant, but do I seem ignorant and inarticulate to you? I am a product of strict faith-based home-schooling and while certainly no genius, I'd like to think I can hold my own against the so-called "great minds of my generation" (what a joke lol) coming out of public schools and even private schools these days because from what I've seen Im not impressed.

Aaannnnyyyway...to get this back onto the topic again, I want a candidate with a faith-based background because that's where I see strength for the dark future coming down on us. Most secular people are weak and wont be prepared for whats coming (I said most not all so don't get yourself in worked up over that lol).
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posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 08:25 PM
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Fair enough.

And if anything as time has proven that this multiculturalism has only worked to a degree, and trying to push people into changing there ways which they have followed for thousands of years does not work so well. As they are just finding out in some places and countries such as England and some Europe countries and off-course in the USA.

If anything it probably would be best to let each individual state do what they want without to much or very little influence from the machine in Washington. For I see no reason if somebody wants to life in a certain way and with a certain religion, or faith that it should not be done. In fact I see no reason why they cant give all such like minded people there own different states to do as they see fit, with only basic rules that they should follow and off-course sane precepts and human rights among other things that should be agreed on by all.

Because trying to bunch up all kinds of people of different believes and who knows what else into the same pool leads to many problems. However all options to break away or leave, should remain possible.


I was brought up with faith. My family, parents, and community are all deep believers. Every day growing up I could see how that faith manifested in the love our family and friends had and still has for each other.

By the way what are you some sort of christian or something? It sounds when you use words like "community" and "deep believers" it sounds like your some sort of Mormon or something.

But If its not broken then don't try to fix it. I always say, less work that way. And i am all for less work.


Did you know my father took a homeless boy in and fed him and sheltered and educated him, spontaneously, for almost a year? And people talk only of the cynical side of religion. People call us hicks and ignorant, but do I seem ignorant and inarticulate to you? I am a product of strict faith-based home-schooling and while certainly no genius, I'd like to think I can hold my own against the so-called "great minds of my generation" (what a joke lol) coming out of public schools and even private schools these days because from what I've seen Im not impressed.

Well I am not impressed with some of them either, but there all not bad, there just to full of themselves. However you would probably put them all to shame if you wanted to, but against some things I am afraid you do not know what your facing.

And you seem very smart to me, but should I judge them all by you and your father. No one group is the same all over.



"Confidence is the feeling you sometimes have before you fully understand the situation." -unknown.


But was not one of the religious nutters favorite saying something along the line of do not be over-proud.



Psalm 101:5 “I will not tolerate people who slander their neighbors. I will not endure conceit and pride.”

Proverbs 16:18
“Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.”

You see I too know some religious stuff. My grandpa was into Christianity as well. And yes I think he was pretty nutty, but whatever. He was one of the best people I knew.


Aaannnnyyyway...to get this back onto the topic again, I want a candidate with a faith-based background because that's where I see strength for the dark future coming down on us. Most secular people are weak and wont be prepared for whats coming

And what, you think you know what is coming? Do tell?

Here is a clue. Against what is coming there is no wining or success, the best you can hope for is not to fail miserably. Because there is no passing this test. But some other time in some other lifetime, the shadow of it will suffice for now. So party girl we shall see how the world fares against a shadow when the time comes.



(I said most not all so don't get yourself in worked up over that lol).

Ok I had to Google secular because I was no sure what it mean't. But you don't know me or what I am or believe in. And no some of the most week people are religious and spiritual people, because they have a whole faith and believes and peoples and entities behind them.

Those who believe in nothing and have nothing to believe in, those that stand by themselves are stronger. Because they stand by themselves against the things that it takes most people whole communities and believes and entities to face.

And yet they bash themselves bloody against the walls that I walk trough. Sorry party girl but i would beat you at faith even, because it take an insane amount of faith to be stupid enough to stand alone in a world were the alone are wormwood fast. Your fate and believes do not impress me, but however other things about you are really cool and do impress me.


Anyways better stop here just because.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 08:44 PM
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Got a little off track. So to the question of the op.


OK, We Know Who You Don't Like for POTUS. Is There Someone You DO?


I really dont hate or dislike any of them. And since parygirl is to young to run for potus, like she said she would if she could.


To tell the truth, I really don't care all that much.

But seeing how this seems to be a hot topic on peoples minds. Then I got to go with Ron Paul, at least he has a doable simple plan that will fail less, and a concept most people can grasp and understand and get behind. However he is just one man, so I would not expect much.

If anything it would be best to get some law passed that if the president is doing really crappy then there should be some sort of consensus or new vote and we can get a new potus in there. If we have to have 20 new potus within a year I see no problem with it as long as its done peacefully, after all they do like to fire the worker bee when he or she fails and get a new worker bee. I think it would be best for the worker bees to do the same with those in power. And fire them and get a new one.

In the end it would be better then suffering trough 4 years of a really idiotic and tyrannical potus. But the potus only matters as long as he knows the name of the game and know what he is doing, if he is clueless he becomes a pawn.



posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 11:06 PM
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I want a candidate with a faith-based background because that's where I see strength for the dark future coming down on us. Most secular people are weak and wont be prepared for whats coming

(I said most not all so don't get yourself in worked up over that lol).

You know for some reason I completely missed that last part, for all the reasons that I knew and saw, and got myself all worked up over that regardless. I apologize, and it shall not happen ever again. I don't think all faith based ideologies such as yours are bad, and I just forgot that nothing is good or bad but thinking makes it so.

And so your religious ways can work, and even can work for a large groups of peoples. But it can not work for everybody like most religious people think and try to always beat into peoples heads or forcefully impress upon people. So whatever, as long as you don't try to impress forcefully then I think it is what it is, and now that were friends I even promise to stop calling you a crazy religious nutter. After this post but off-course.

However I looked at your links in your profile and I still dont trust any movement named "dominion" nor was I impressed by what they said and what I read and saw in the sites the links took me to, and that name dominion it does sound ominous, and with such precepts such as the ones bellow I think there anything but cristians really.

What happened to “Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and give to God what is God's.” Now it looks like there trying to become Cesar.


Dominionism


1. Dominionists celebrate Christian nationalism, in that they believe that the United States once was, and should once again be, a Christian nation. In this way, they deny the Enlightenment roots of American democracy.
2. Dominionists promote religious supremacy, insofar as they generally do not respect the equality of other religions, or even other versions of Christianity.
3. Dominionists endorse theocratic visions, insofar as they believe that the Ten Commandments, or "biblical law," should be the foundation of American law, and that the U.S. Constitution should be seen as a vehicle for implementing Biblical principles.[28]

Is that the Dominion your talking about?





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