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A Closer Look at Multiculturalism

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posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by Bleak
Read between the lines. That's not what I'm referring to when I speak of multiculturalism.


I did read between the lines, which is why I intimated that it's difficult not to class anti-''multiculti'' whingers as bigots, when they don't provide reasonable or valid arguments to back up their concerns.




posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 10:44 AM
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then the whites


There was black slave owners, Native American slave owners, and white on white slavery.


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posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by Maslo
Lets not make this a race issue. Even tough race and culture is usually correlated in a population, they are different things. The topic is multiculturalism, not multiethnicism.


Exactly. Multiculturalism and multiracialism are two completely different issues. Unfortunately, many who rage about the former are using it as a cover for their dislike of the latter.



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posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by Bleak
Read between the lines. That's not what I'm referring to when I speak of multiculturalism.


What are you trying to say ,Bleak, spit it out,



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777



Originally posted by Bleak
Read between the lines. That's not what I'm referring to when I speak of multiculturalism.


What are you trying to say ,Bleak, spit it out,

You have let us, basically tear down and rebuild it! You really haven't told us what's in your head. I'd like to know, please spit it out and be done with it.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 11:00 AM
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As a Liberal, I do not think we should intervene or change the way our culture mingles. It should come naturally with no serious mentions of it. In California, Koreans and Mexicans co-exist with virtual harmony, adopting languages and cultures to suit the need of other. I do not think such cultural fusion will damage us.

Instead of holding to our guns and language, perhaps we should start learning and adopting to new things around us, as individuals. Government shouldn`t get involved in it though. There is always an agenda behind their motive, whether they be re-election or lobbyist money. either way, some people will adopt and some won`t. Those who do will advance further in the society.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 11:04 AM
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there is so much crap on here i dont know where to begin! i will start w this, since the beginning of time people have taken over other people, at one point even your culture has taken over another culture. your culture might have bits and pieces of other culures in it. no one culture is absolutely original or ideal. i see a lot of stereotyping on here and its just plain ridiculous. tell me ur culture and i'll find a way to make fun of it. it doesent matter ur culture people will find a way to fear you. i think one day our world will be one language, one gigantic melting pot of cultures, one global economy, one government and i dont think its a conspiracy i think it has to do w the evolution of mankind. get used to it people because its happening.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 11:04 AM
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LA race riots
Slavery in the US

What are you saying? I ask because the way I see it, all you're doing is proving my point.

And CAN I even elaborate without getting banned again?
Basically, yes, this is a racial issue. Sorry, there's just no way around it.


Mod Note:The END of Hate Speech, subtle or otherwise, on ATS
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posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by Bleak
Basically, yes, this is a racial issue. Sorry, there's just no way around it.


If it's a racial issue, then why make a thread bemoaning multiculturalism ?

You need to get your argument straight.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by Bleak
reply to post by MrXYZ
 



LA race riots
Slavery in the US

What are you saying? I ask because the way I see it, all you're doing is proving my point.

And CAN I even elaborate without getting banned again?
Basically, yes, this is a racial issue. Sorry, there's just no way around it.

Sweetheart, I don't need to be reminded every five minutes that I am brown, I have mirrors for that purpose

Culture is pointing out the issues within the race, not the race itself. There is a difference.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 11:14 AM
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so u would rather have all the cultures and peoples living seperately on their own individual countries, only exposed to their own cultures? would your country be the supreme culture and race? so you're basically saying people should just stick to their own kind? if we did that we would all just be a bunch of inbreds! LMAO!!!!



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by Bleak
Admit it: diversity IS forced on people.


Can you explain how diversity is forced on people? I've never had it forced on me and I'm not even sure what you mean. How is diversity forced on you?



Read between the lines. That's not what I'm referring to when I speak of multiculturalism.


How about you don't require us to 'read between the lines" and you tell us just WTF you're referring to when I speak of multiculturalism? How about that? Are you talking about how you hate to hear the hip hop culture playing their music? Or is it that you can't stand the thought of what the gay people down the block do to each other?

What, SPECIFICALLY about multiculturalism has got your panties in a knot?



You're speaking theoretically; how it works in practice is a different matter entirely.


If that's true, then please be forthcoming. Don't keep it to yourself. You're beating around the bush with a *wink-wink* and instructions to "read between the lines" and I'm not at all sure what you're getting at. Have the guts to say what you mean.

How does multiculturalism affect your life in a negative way. Let's have it.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 11:15 AM
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enhance access, attract and retain a diverse population and promote
equity and equal opportunity.
encourage interaction among diverse people to enrich the educational
experience, promote personal growth and enhance the community .
foster mutual respect, value differences and promote cross cultural
understanding
enhance access, attract and retain a diverse population and promote





Oh, WOW. Still more libtard propaganda.


Damn equality and equal opportunities, right? Also, what's up with all that "respect"? We should go straight back to the exploitation of other cultures living in the US, make them sit in the back of the bus again! Now that would be great, right?


It's as if Breivik got Internet access in prison



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by conspiracy nut
reply to post by Bleak
 


so u would rather have all the cultures and peoples living seperately on their own individual countries, only exposed to their own cultures? would your country be the supreme culture and race? so you're basically saying people should just stick to their own kind? if we did that we would all just be a bunch of inbreds! LMAO!!!!


Ding, ding, ding. You've got it, that is the way OP sounds, maybe it's the way i'm interpreting this.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by Bleak
reply to post by MrXYZ
 



LA race riots
Slavery in the US

What are you saying? I ask because the way I see it, all you're doing is proving my point.

And CAN I even elaborate without getting banned again?
Basically, yes, this is a racial issue. Sorry, there's just no way around it.


It's multiculturalism that allows those different cultures to live together in relative peace nowadays. In the past, when people SEGRAGATED (as you want to happen again), things were a LOT worse, with riots and slavery being common.

It's tolerance that allows this...something you apparently don't know given that even other culture's music pisses you off



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 11:18 AM
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I surely can remember a time without "multiculturalism" here in Norway.
Here you only have to go back to 80s or early 90s and back then it was weird to even have a murder, people did not lock their doors and so on.
With immigration all this changed very quickly...



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 11:23 AM
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Multiculturalism is mass genocide. I'm not against immigration, but the only aim of mass immigration is to destroy the host populace. My ex wife isn't white, and our child is mixed. So take what I say anyway you want it and call me whatever you want.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes
Multiculturalism and multiracialism are two completely different issues. Unfortunately, many who rage about the former are using it as a cover for the latter.



Originally posted by Bleak
Basically, yes, this is a racial issue. Sorry, there's just no way around it.


Dr. Holmes, your investigative genius is still intact.


So, Bleak, basically you don't like brown people living so close to you and breathing your air? Am I getting close? Is it Hispanics, Arabs, Native Americans, Muslims or black people that are ruining your life? Or is it white rednecks, Asians or Eastern Indians? Don't answer that. I don't really care.
It doesn't matter which race you don't like. It all points to the same diagnosis...

I'm sorry if you aren't happy. But here's a tip. Better get used to it.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 11:35 AM
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Lets put things in perspective here without all of the political correctness.

"Multiculturalism" is a reference to non-Westerners migrating to Western nations, fair to say? Additionally, these immigrants generally choose to practice their old World cultures in their new homeland.

That having been said, lets expose the blatant hypocrisy.

This is an example of double think on a MASS scale. Global colonization and domination have been a long standing policy of the Europeans for the past few centuries right up to this very day. The old World colonists are the New World Imperialists, with the United States assigned the roll of the Anglo-American invader and enforcer.

For centuries, third World nations have been subjugated, invaded, colonized, exploited and occupied. From as far west as the British "West Indies" to as far south as former Apartheid South Africa, East to the Indian Subcontinent and almost every nation inbetween.

From the institution of slavery to the installation and backing of brutal dictators, these nations have been under relentless foreign invasion. And while these Ango-American/European nations have been on a centuries old war path, carving up nations and looting the world's natural resources like stolen booty, they now have the nerve to object to these same foreigners legally migrating into their countries i.e. Europe...

Seriously?

Now, in a supposed free society, people should be allowed to live freely and by the same token, other people should be allowed to object, but lets be clear about one thing.

You want them out of "your" countries, fair enough, but its way way WAY OVER DUE that you got the hell out of theirs...and you know damn well thats NEVER going to happen.
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posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by Heartisblack
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Bingo and here's where it gets nasty. Now he's in the race talk, shine your true colours on ATS huh ? Culture and race are two different stories.


The OP initiated a discussion of multi-culturalism - a topic that could have been an intriguing or enlightening - but, instead, the thread has degraded into racial overtones and nasty inferences all around, from both sides. If he meant race, he should have made that clear. To think that they are one in the same is nothing short of absurd.

However, the only "true colors" this shows of ATS is the sad fact that - just like in real life - some people (of all opinions and persuasions) are unable to be intellectually honest or discuss issues without making gross generalizations, stereotyping or goading others.




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