WHO is running the show ? Islam and Mecca ? Now they are behind the plane memorials of 9/11, , page 2
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reply posted on 12-9-2011 @ 04:41 AM by fooks
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mecca is about 1000x's bigger, it looks like an inverted thing, that is troubling to me.

with the stupid square thing in the middle.

sup wit dat?

eta; maybe that's why?

inverted mecca?
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reply posted on 12-9-2011 @ 04:57 AM by plube
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now not sure why you might say that...as we are talking about the Kaaba itself...which is aprox 11m x 12m or 33ft x 36ft.

now the towers were 208ft by 208 ft...now if the cube in the centre is aproximate 1/6 of the fountain then i would say it is close in approximation....but this is all guess work at this point but the estimation does look close.

yet in all honesty it looks about 1/5 which would be a size of approx 40ft x40ft in my guesstimation.

we would need the design dimensions of the memorial to see if it is correct....and then need the exact dimensions to see if it is a ratio there of....but i would take a stab at it being just a square to the outer dimensions of the perimeter of the tower itself.


reply posted on 12-9-2011 @ 05:09 AM by The Sword
reply to post by outerlimits



Nah. It was the U.S government and Israel.

You must be asleep if you still think it's Islamic terrorists. Just saying.



reply posted on 12-9-2011 @ 05:21 AM by plube
reply to post by The Sword



I have to agree one hundred percent...and one of my favorite person that speak out againts the Zionists led movement is good ole brother Nethanael.




reply posted on 12-9-2011 @ 06:02 AM by fooks
reply to post by plube



naw, overall area.

giza has more in common with orion than this.

sorry.


reply posted on 12-9-2011 @ 02:09 PM by Peteos
reply to post by plube



I hope you're right. Definitely still an interesting choice for a memorial though; if you see them side by side it's almost impossible not to draw a mental link (pre-school level 'the black square block goes in the black square hole'). I tried to find anything on the actual dimensions of the memorial while on a break in work today, with no success. Will look again later.

The question still stands though; why, given all the possibilities for a decent memorial, did they choose something that begs to be likened to the Kaaba at all? Just another interesting turn in the on-going saga of 9/11.


reply posted on 12-9-2011 @ 06:04 PM by OldCorp
Originally posted by backinblack
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And do you see the word "zion" in the 2012 Olympics logo??

Or is that too much of a squint?


With some imagination, yes. I can also see what the designer claims it to be: a stylized "2012."

Your point?


reply posted on 12-9-2011 @ 06:13 PM by OldCorp
Originally posted by WhoDat09
Wow! I had no idea! I'm not sure why the designer of it didn't go back to the drawing board, after seeing it pointed to Mecca, I guess that is why it is still not finished.

Thank you, the funny thing is I have heard about this NO where, but after I read your thread I googled it and sure enough the info is out there!



After watching the videos (I hadn't followed this much since just before the "redesign") I can only come to the conclusion that he designed it the way he did - and redesigned it in a way that changes nothing - on purpose. I can't begin to imagine his motivation as he's not a Muslim as far as I'm aware; but there are just too many design characteristics that have to be taken as a celebration of the attacks rather than a memorial to the victims.

The father of the hero who led the charge on the cockpit with the words "Let's Roll" is the man leading the protest against this national disgrace and he's not the only surviving family member to feel this "memorial" is pissing on the memory of his son and the others who died. IMO, if even ONE family member objects to the memorial then the plans need to be scrapped in favor of something they can all agree on; after all, it was their loved ones who were killed.

ETA: When I saw Todd's father about to bust into tears, begging for viewers to help him stop this travesty before it's too late, my heart just broke for him. For a grown man to lose it like that in public, you know this issue is just tearing him up. And I'm sure he's not the only one.
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reply posted on 12-9-2011 @ 11:08 PM by outerlimits
Originally posted by OldCorp
Originally posted by WhoDat09
Wow! I had no idea! I'm not sure why the designer of it didn't go back to the drawing board, after seeing it pointed to Mecca, I guess that is why it is still not finished.

Thank you, the funny thing is I have heard about this NO where, but after I read your thread I googled it and sure enough the info is out there!



After watching the videos (I hadn't followed this much since just before the "redesign") I can only come to the conclusion that he designed it the way he did - and redesigned it in a way that changes nothing - on purpose. I can't begin to imagine his motivation as he's not a Muslim as far as I'm aware; but there are just too many design characteristics that have to be taken as a celebration of the attacks rather than a memorial to the victims.

The father of the hero who led the charge on the cockpit with the words "Let's Roll" is the man leading the protest against this national disgrace and he's not the only surviving family member to feel this "memorial" is pissing on the memory of his son and the others who died. IMO, if even ONE family member objects to the memorial then the plans need to be scrapped in favor of something they can all agree on; after all, it was their loved ones who were killed.

ETA: When I saw Todd's father about to bust into tears, begging for viewers to help him stop this travesty before it's too late, my heart just broke for him. For a grown man to lose it like that in public, you know this issue is just tearing him up. And I'm sure he's not the only one.
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yep I agree...
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