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Originally posted by BubbaJoe
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
I have never called you stupid. I am pro choice, not pro abortion. Perhaps if you properly educated your children, there would be less need for abortion. You don't want to teach your children about sex, but want to punish them if they discover it. I am assuming you were a teenager at one point in time, and if you have children, I am assuming you have figured out what it is good for.
What is your definition of true freedom? Is it to do anything you want without responsibility to society or others?
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Janky Red
Janky, I will say the same thing to you I just said to the other guy, that you don't know me, you don't know what I/ve done for 30 years, and anyone can be a "Libertarian" these days. Do Libertarians feel they own the Tea Party by being associated with that Party?
Sounds to me like an elite club then. Then they can be all smug and say stupid things like all conservatives are for corporatism.
Everyone else knows that free enterprise means you cannot put an arbitrary limit on growth without flirting with Marxist Socialism.
I am not for giant oligopolies or monopolies, or for corporations running government.
If anything, I have been yelling about how the UN Agenda 21 uses terms like "public-private partnership". Guess what that means? If you have a head on your shoulders you will admit the meaning of it and who is implementing it today.
Perhaps I am not the typical Tea Partier, because I don't fit the neat little stereotype whats his face Master Mason thinks he can put on me.
Where's the line between the communist hatred of the bourgeoisie and capitalism, and a healthy dislike for corporate monsters running our lives? Maybe I should start a thread on that and see what happens.
I thought of Perry and Bachman as being the quintessential neocons,
but I can tell you I would vote for Perry just to get that nut out of the WH.
Yes sociaism is exactly that which our Founding Fathers would not like to see prevail,
Because Socialism is nothing but Totalitarianism with a smiley face.
people who voted in Bush, all of a sudden moaning about the state of the country and size government.
civil protection from the powers of the royal over lords? How is the Oligarchy any different?
How does Socialism fight for equal rights when they are seizing my paycheck to give to others? What is fair about me working an hours wage and then having the govt take 49% of it and give it to someone else arbitrarily for whatever reason?
By the way, excessive regulations force smaller businesses out because they have a harder time financially with compliance. So how is that helping keep oligarchy from happening? My sister is a small rancher and I have heard her stories.
Originally posted by Rockpuck
And people who claim Beck or Palin are Libertarians.. it's the Neocon movement infiltrating them .. Foxnews showed "Conservatives" waving the yellow Gadsden Flag and using keyword like "Libertarian Ideologies" and all of a sudden a huge portion of the Social Conservative Republicans think just because they don't agree with the Governments fiscal policies makes them Libertarianish.
People are stupid.
reply to post by Misoir
Personally I think the best merging of political beliefs would be Libertarian coming together with a Workers party, what the Democratic party once stood for before Progressive Marxist took over the show. Combine personal freedom, Small government and a strong protection for blue-collar workers and union rights, working to rebuild the middle/working class and our economic production.
Originally posted by David9176
Myself, i believe Country and citizens first. That means our businesses, our middle class, and poor. If that means taxing imports to make businesses here grow and create better paying jobs for our citizens...then I am for it. No matter what we do, we are going to have to absorb more pain.
If it's to protect our borders, then I'm for it.
If it's to protect our nation from harm, then I'm for it.
If it's to protect our elderly, sick, and children...then i am for it.
Quite frankly, I don't think i'm that extreme on those things.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
How does Socialism fight for equal rights when they are seizing my paycheck to give to others? What is fair about me working an hours wage and then having the govt take 49% of it and give it to someone else arbitrarily for whatever reason? That is not real justice by any stretch of the imagination.