Afghanistan — A suicide bomber driving a truck attacked an advance NATO combat post in central Af

reply to post by Paulioetc15

Thanks for your response.
I found some declassified stuff just now on that.

www.gwu.edu...

The decision to send troops was made after a long deliberation and repeated requests from the leadership of the PDPA,

Afghanistan did not fit into the mental maps and ideological constructs of the Soviet leaders. Their analysis of internal social processes in Afghanistan was done through the conceptual lens of Marxist-Leninist doctrine, which blinded the leadership to the realities of traditional tribal society. Believing that there was no single country in the world, which was not ripe for socialism, party ideologues like Mikhail Suslov and Boris Ponomarev saw Afghanistan as a “second Mongolia.” Such conceptualization of the situation led to the attempts to impose alien social and economic practices on Afghan society, such as the forced land reform.

The Soviet troops had absolutely no anti-guerrilla training. While the formal mission of the troops was to protect the civilians from the anti-government forces, in reality, Soviet soldiers often found themselves fighting against the civilians they intended to protect, which sometimes led to indiscriminate killing of local people. Operations to pursue and capture rebel formations were often unsuccessful and had to be repeated several times in the same area because the rebels retreated to the mountains and returned to their home villages as soon as the Soviet forces returned to their garrisons. Soviet traditional weaponry and military equipment, especially armored cars and tanks were extremely vulnerable on Afghani terrain.

Originally posted by galdur
Geraldo Interviews Marine who admits Opium fields guarded by U.S. troops in Afghanistan

current.com...

They wont believe you. Its all a lie

You crazy conspiracy theorist, or should I say "coincidence" theorist?

Fox News and USATODAY said it was 77 wounded earlier on their websites Cant imagine why they would say 77 as in flight 77.
Im so tired of that word "sacrafice" its so primitive.


911 Magi-matics and Sorcery. Its almost like the secret societies that are running these illusions are retarded and short circuiting as we move closer to 2012.

Originally posted by superluminal11
Fox News and USATODAY said it was 77 wounded earlier on their websites

Cant imagine they would say 77 as in flight 77.


911 Magi-matics and Sorcery. Its almost like the secret societies that are running these illusions are retarded and short circuiting as we move closer to 2012.

Oh I have a thread on this and linked it to the 7/7 attacks!

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Thank you for the info.

reply to post by MasterGemini


LOL at numbers, because it would sense to link it to the 7/7 attacks. I can see how leaving a breadcrumb of spooky co-incidental numbers would help cover up their secrets..... Derp.

I do believe 7/7 was questionable though, I don't believe it was Muslims, Peter Power, i still can't believe how he got away with it, without any questions asked.

Originally posted by NeverForget
reply to post by MasterGemini

 

LOL at numbers, because it would sense to link it to the 7/7 attacks. I can see how leaving a breadcrumb of spooky co-incidental numbers would help cover up their secrets..... Derp.

I do believe 7/7 was questionable though, I don't believe it was Muslims, Peter Power, i still can't believe how he got away with it, without any questions asked.

Numbers and math are a Universal language child.

You should not mock them.

Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by MrWendal

 

Kind of hard to argue the intent behind it when the Taliban claim responsbility for the attack.

It was a suicie bomber and the base was intentionally targeted. Why does it matter what its referred to as?

I prefer the term homocide bomber, they use suicide bomber.... who cares..

edit on 11-9-2011 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)

Wait.. We're are told they claimed responsibility. Can any one here actually personally confirm this? If that being the case. Then that information entailed in the link is currently no more than hearsay and the so-called confirmation came via a phone call. Comes across as quite convenient to me.

1943: Nazis designate all resistance to their occupying forces as terrorism. War of aggression is illegal and based on fraudulent pretenses.

2011: U.S. designate all resistance to their occupying forces as terrorism. War of aggression is illegal and based on fraudulent pretenses.

Same shift, same mentality, different aholes.

reply to post by galdur


Yeah, i guess that makes the UK modern Nazis too?

Meh, you're right, it's illegal, let's leave their countries and let them continue with their suicide bombing over there. Let them continue to opress the people of that country, let's stop them from having a democracy. Leave them to their own devices, that's the most humane thing to do.

Also, like Nazis, there are vast reports of soldiers seeking out civilians, especially Jews, and destroying them....Yeah....Yeah right.

It's simple ... vote for Ron Paul ..he will Bring the troops home !!! Talibans and all others can do what they want in THEIR country . Those here who support Military industrial complex i recommend them to go to the families of dead and wounded sodiers .

reply to post by NeverForget


You viewpoints on these issues seem purely faith-based - in impossible fables from established and pathological serial liars.

reply to post by galdur


I don't rely on faith.

Faith is for the week minded who'd rather form conclusions on the basis of nil evidence.

reply to post by NeverForget


Were you conscious a few years ago when Bliar and other psychopathic and accomplished serial liars in the British establishment were defrauding through the Iraq war? Just curious.

reply to post by galdur


Serial liars? Blair is a retard.. A quick search for his debate against Christopher Hitchens shows exactly that.

Blair acted on what information was given to him. I don't support that, and perhaps an "illegal" war, but it still doesn't change the fact suicide bombers and criminal networks exist in the middle east; Bombing children and civilians.

Originally posted by starviego
The Founding Fathers would take a dim view of this foreign entanglement. Oh if only this nation could remember what they knew! But hey, what are they compared to the Pentagon's pogues of today?


"Of all the enemies to public liberty, war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes. And armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended. Its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force of the people. The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and in the degeneracy of manners and morals, engendered by both. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare."
-- James Madison, April 20, 1795


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edit on 11-9-2011 by starviego because: (no reason given)

I believe your post needs a repost/quote.

So that is why I am quoting-reposting it. It appears Mr Madison knew what the hell he was talking about.

This should probably be reposted a thousand more times. So I am doing my part.

reply to post by NeverForget


I think that those who try to apologize for pathological liars, falsifiers, war criminals and mass murderers like Bush and Bliar must be one or more of three 1) plain stupid 2) faith-based simpletons or 3) about as crazy as those psychopaths.

reply to post by galdur


And i agree. But i STILL think the war was justified to stop theocratic regimes ruining their countries and nations.

It's just a race war disguised as a war for resources further disguised as a decade long counter-attack.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Paulioetc15

 

Thanks for your response.
I found some declassified stuff just now on that.

www.gwu.edu...

The decision to send troops was made after a long deliberation and repeated requests from the leadership of the PDPA,

Afghanistan did not fit into the mental maps and ideological constructs of the Soviet leaders. Their analysis of internal social processes in Afghanistan was done through the conceptual lens of Marxist-Leninist doctrine, which blinded the leadership to the realities of traditional tribal society. Believing that there was no single country in the world, which was not ripe for socialism, party ideologues like Mikhail Suslov and Boris Ponomarev saw Afghanistan as a “second Mongolia.” Such conceptualization of the situation led to the attempts to impose alien social and economic practices on Afghan society, such as the forced land reform.

The Soviet troops had absolutely no anti-guerrilla training. While the formal mission of the troops was to protect the civilians from the anti-government forces, in reality, Soviet soldiers often found themselves fighting against the civilians they intended to protect, which sometimes led to indiscriminate killing of local people. Operations to pursue and capture rebel formations were often unsuccessful and had to be repeated several times in the same area because the rebels retreated to the mountains and returned to their home villages as soon as the Soviet forces returned to their garrisons. Soviet traditional weaponry and military equipment, especially armored cars and tanks were extremely vulnerable on Afghani terrain.

Very true, also the CIA did supplied Stingers to the anti-communist rebels - one of the key victories in the Soviet-Afghan war.

Afghanistan is just another base for the Military to get Iran that simple after we are done with Iran then we will leave