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Topic started on 11-9-2011 @ 01:02 AM by iSHRED
For all you older and/or country folk out there you might not know who im talking about when i say Lupe Fiasco. Hes a main stream rapper who's played on the radio, mtv, and any other media outlet you can think of. Earlier this year (not exactly new news) he came out with his album "lasers". A song on his album is called "words i never said". In this song he pretty much name problem after problem, conspiracy after conspiracy. Heres the lyrics and the music video.





"Words I Never Said" (feat. Skylar Grey) [Skylar Grey] It’s so loud Inside my head With words that I should have said! As I drown in my regrets I can’t take back the words I never said I can’t take back the words I never said [Lupe Fiasco]I really think the war on terror is a bunch of bull# Just a poor excuse for you to use up all your bullets How much money does it take to really make a full clip 9/11 building 7 did they really pull it Uhh, And a bunch of other cover ups Your childs future was the first to go with budget cuts If you think that hurts then, wait here comes the uppercut The school was garbage in the first place, that's on the up and up Keep you at the bottom but tease you with the uppercrust You get it then they move it so you never keeping up enough If you turn on TV all you see’s a bunch of “what the #s” Dude is dating so and so blabbering bout such and such And that ain't Jersey Shore, homie that's the news And these the same people that supposed to be telling us the truth Limbaugh is a racist, Glenn Beck is a racist Gaza strip was getting bombed, Obama didn’t say # That's why I ain't vote for him, next one either I’ma part of the problem, my problem is I’m peaceful And I believe in the people. [Skylar Grey] It’s so loud inside my head With words that I should have said! As I drown in my regrets I can’t take back the words I never said I can’t take back the words I never said [Lupe Fiasco - Verse 2] Now you can say it ain't our fault if we never heard it But if we know better than we probably deserve it Jihad is not a holy war, wheres that in the worship? Murdering is not Islam! And you are not observant And you are not a muslim Israel don’t take my side cause look how far you’ve pushed them Walk with me into the ghetto, this where all the Kush went Complain about the liquor store but what you drinking liquor for? Complain about the gloom but when’d you pick a broom up? Just listening to Pac ain't gone make it stop A rebel in your thoughts, ain't gon make it halt If you don’t become an actor you’ll never be a factor Pills with million side effects Take em when the pains felt Wash them down with Diet soda! Killin off your brain cells Crooked banks around the World Would gladly give a loan today So if you ever miss a payment They can take your home away! [Skylar Grey] It’s so loud inside my head With words that I should have said! As I drown in my regrets I can’t take back the words I never said, never said I can’t take back the words I never said [Lupe Fiasco - Verse 3] I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence Fear is such a weak emotion that's why I despise it We scared of almost everything, afraid to even tell the truth So scared of what you think of me, I’m scared of even telling you Sometimes I’m like the only person I feel safe to tell it to I’m locked inside a cell in me, I know that there’s a jail in you Consider this your bailing out, so take a breath, inhale a few My screams is finally getting free, my thoughts is finally yelling through [Skylar Grey] It’s so loud Inside my head With words that I should have said! As I drown in my regrets I can’t take back the words I never said


i bolded parts of the lyrics i thought were significant


reply posted on 11-9-2011 @ 01:22 AM by BrokenCircles
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Originally posted by iSHRED

He is part of main stream MEDIA

If this ↑ were true, or even if you felt that it was true, then why did you feel inclined to open with this ↓ ????
Originally posted by iSHRED

For all you older and/or country folk out there you might not know who im talking about when i say Lupe Fiasco.

If he was so mainstream, then wouldn't we all know who he is?


reply posted on 11-9-2011 @ 02:10 AM by LargeFries
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Roger freaked when Stan refused to buy grenadine syrup, impeding an aliens desire for a cool, refreshing Roy Rogers. Roger wages war against Stan, becoming Roy Rogers McFreely and taking power over the Homeowner's Association. There are a few references to Cilantro, an upcoming recording talent admired by both Stan and Roger.

When I realized you weren't hip to the sounds of Cilantro I heaved a heavy sigh, took a sip of cheap generic 'kola' and lit a cigarette. I've lost all hope for mankind.


reply posted on 15-9-2011 @ 08:42 PM by intrptr
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I'ma part of the problem, my problem is I'm peaceful...

Thankyou for that link to MSM on YouTube. I love music and good messages like dat. I saw myself...


reply posted on 15-9-2011 @ 08:48 PM by intrptr
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I replied to your thread and then read your last post before mine...

I dug your thread and link to vid of MSM. Don't get bent or broken with others stormy replies... BEND with the wind.
You must be a human being cause you care and strive to convince others. The Vultures see it as weakness and pounce. They the problem, not a caring heart. You is the solution. Peace brother.


reply posted on 15-9-2011 @ 08:51 PM by Pocky
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I'm glad he squeezed in those lyrics and coupled it with a good background singer. Hopefully the kids will stop and actually listen to the lyrics he is saying. With over 7 Million views, I hope it sows a seed somewhere.


reply posted on 16-9-2011 @ 06:22 PM by Sphota
Well, where are the protest songs? What happened to that? They were so common in the 60s and 70s, yet today, nothing? Then again, there's a pattern to this:

1910s and 1920s - ragtime, flappers and excess
1930s - depression and depression era protest music ("Brother can you spare a dime?")
1940s - war, patriotic hymns
1950s - prosperity, but jingoism against cold war, shake, rattle and role
mid-1960s through 1970s - protest music, '___', actual protesting
late 1970s through 2000 - Disco, (Punk,) Hairbands, (Early Rap,) Metal, (Grunge,) disposable pop, boybands, (Gangsta Rap,) Techno
2001-2011 - 9/11, patriotic hymns, recession, depression? more pop music

What am I getting at? I'm not even sure because I'd have to fact check this to really stand by it. But, since I don't have all night, I'll just get to the point:

The music reflects the times - careless and silly in good times, patriotic in times of war, but also calling for protest in the bad times (including the times of war). What seems to have happened since the protest movements including the civil rights, is a sort of compartmentalization of taste that no longer deals entirely with ethnicity or regional factors. In the period after the Vietnam war through today, there seems to have been an over all multiculturalization of music. By multicultural, I don't mean ethnicity, I mean subculture: punk, gay, preppy, conservative, religious, hippy, grunge, goth, disco (techno), innercity, ghetto, country, prison, etc.

Whatever the case may be, the less connected we are through our music, the harder it is for us to find "rallying themes" such as those of the Wood Stock generation - Bob Dylan, Jimi Hendrix and so forth. I'm not saying different types of music are a bad thing, but it's a shame that rather than embracing them all, we seem to ignore the ones that don't speak to us as a group. For example, a person might not listen to country, but not because the music isn't good, rather because the message is not in synchronicity with their worldview. The same might go for innercity life reflected through rap.

The only convergence zone seems to be Pop music - that nebulous, theme-less, anything-goes-as-long-as-it-is-Media-sanctioned, ambiguous category. Let's not forget what "Pop" is short for: popular. Let's also not forget what the real meaning of "popular" is. It doesn't have to do with the prom queen and the quarterback (though that is an interesting thing to analyze if we want to look at the core semantic framing that might go on with that word).

Popular means "of the populous", "known or common among the people". There's your problem in a nut shell. The one "genre" of music that is "known or common among the people" is the one that is most corporately controlled, most scrutinized by bean counters, "cool" mavens and fashionistas.

Ironically, to gain the nomenclature "Pop(ular)", one would think the music should be collectively decided by the masses. So, I guess that is my point pertaining to Lupe Fiasco. I don't watch MTV anymore...stopped right around the time the M stopped meaning music...maybe lasted another few years after that. At any rate, is his music being played on MTV?
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