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Originally posted by TenaciousGuy
Now, I'm pretty sure we've all heard Bush call himself a "born-again" Christian, but I'm not sure he's anything remotely close to the sort
Our “President” appears to be prepared to “kick some Iraqi ass.” What would Jesus do?
Ye have heard that it hath it said, thou shalt love thy neighbor, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you and pray for them that despitefully use you and persecute you. (Matt. 5: 43-44)
While he was the Governor of Texas, George Bush signed 155 death warrants, and granted no pardons to condemned prisoners. What would Jesus do?
Blessed are the merciful for they shall obtain mercy. (Matt. 5:7) ...
Our glorious free market economy is driven by the profit motive. What might Jesus say about the profit motive?
Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal. ... For where you treasure is, there will your heart be also. (Matt. 6: 19, 21)
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. (Matt. 6:24)
How does one convince millions of devout Christians to accept a secular political-economic philosophy developed and articulated, in large part, by atheists? How does one, in addition, enable this same multitude of Christians to disregard how their political “allies” are taking cash out of their pockets and redistributing it “upward” from the middle class and the poor to the already wealthy, at the cost, in addition, of impoverishing essential social services, aid to the poor, and placing a crushing debt upon future generations? And finally, how are these Christians persuaded that the moral teachings of Jesus of Nazareth are somehow consistent with aggressive foreign wars, the increased enrichment of the wealthy, the denial of relief to the poor, comfort to the afflicted, education for the young, and employment for the jobless.?
George Bush wants to tell the world that he’s been “born again.” But “born again” to what? To pacifism, humility, compassion, mercy, forgiveness, frugality? The Bible teaches that “By their fruits shall ye know them.” (Matt: 7:20) It seems that Mr. Bush has not learned very much from his “favorite philosopher.”
Originally posted by TomSawyer
Maybe you misunderstood my point? I wasn't saying that I don't think Bush is a Christian, because he took it to the Supreem Court. I'm saying, if he truely believed God wanted him to be president. Why would he worry about how the vote was counted etc.? If God truely wanted him to be president, he would be president reguardless of how the vote was counted wouldn't he? Didn't he believe that God works in mysterious ways? Why didn't he TRUST or have FAITH that it was God's will. If he truely believed it was God's will? He doesn't sound like a man with alot of faith in his God, IMO.
On the flip side, apparently Bush was right. Because what I am saying about Bush, holds true for Gore as well. If God had wanted Gore to be president, he would be right now. However, just because God allowed Bush to be president. It isn't an endorsement by God of his moral fiber. Or that he is better than anyone else in God's eyes. God wanted Bush to be president, so he would do exactly what he did in office. The effect has been. That, alot more people in the US are actually paying attention to this next election, taking an interest in politics, and world affairs ect.. So there has been a positive effect or outcome from this. It's just too bad this is what had to take place, to wake more of the sheeple up.
In response to your statement, yes both parties are corrupt,
Originally posted by taibunsuu
Maybe the reason you no longer see fire and brimstone crashing into sinful cities, angels intervening when the bad guys are winning, or God getting fed up and flooding the whole planet, is because at one point he retired from that, came to Earth, and tried to explain how things should work. After that he went back to Heaven and retired from bothering with human affairs. The realm of ethics is entirely up to humans to figure out.
Originally posted by TenaciousGuy
I don't see any supporters defending him, like I said earlier.
They hear voices too? This nation has more mentaly ill than i thought. Or do you mean "God talks to them" as in guides them? They're two different things. Its ok for us to talk to God, prayers etc., but to look up and wait till the voice speaks, not many religious people I know do that.
I know plenty of Christians and they say if God doesn't speak to you and you're just living your life haphazardly then somethings wrong then.
that about right?