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Fighter damage by cannon

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posted on Aug, 23 2004 @ 08:21 PM
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Just wondering how much damage any fighter could take by cannon fire before being totally wrecked?




posted on Aug, 23 2004 @ 08:23 PM
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it really depends on the fighter, where it gets shot, and with what....

for example: the f-105 had all of its hydralics in one area along the fuselage. one shot in those and the plane lost it.



posted on Aug, 23 2004 @ 08:31 PM
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Depends also on the plane and the speed. For example, on many planes if it were to get a hole in the wing or the control surfaces, the extruding bits of metal will be pushed by the airflow, and will eventually start "peeling back" with the force of the airstream, eventually ripping off a long thin strip of metal.

I don't think many carbonfibre materials have this property.



posted on Aug, 23 2004 @ 08:33 PM
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I dont know if this is what your talking about but heres a link to how much damage a A-10 took in Iraq and still flew home.

www.aircraftresourcecenter.com... 00/0016_A-10-battle-damage/story0016.htm

I think to answer your question you would have to state what type of plane you are talking about because they vary in armour durablity.



posted on Aug, 23 2004 @ 08:37 PM
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Only takes one bullet to kill the pilot.



posted on Aug, 24 2004 @ 04:12 AM
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Just gotta love the A10



posted on Aug, 24 2004 @ 04:19 AM
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Originally posted by zerb
Just gotta love the A10


The only tank in the world with wings.



posted on Aug, 24 2004 @ 04:57 AM
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Armored aircraft like A-10 or SU-25 are very resistant to small calibre cannons like 23mm, and high explosive rounds. So there are used 30-35mm cannons with HEAP rounds, and are very effective against ANY aircraft they hit with even few rounds. Damage is also very dependant on range and place where the round hit. But weapons like six barelled M61 vulcan having 6,000 RPM are just deadly to any aircraft in dogfight. If aircraft crosses line of fire of such cannon it is literally ripped apart.



posted on Aug, 24 2004 @ 07:06 AM
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Originally posted by taibunsuu

Originally posted by zerb
Just gotta love the A10


The only tank in the world with wings.


Now that makes me think of the mi24 hind. That thing is one flying tank too.



posted on Aug, 24 2004 @ 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by zerb
Now that makes me think of the mi24 hind. That thing is one flying tank too.


Can't forget about the FW-190 and the Skyraider... Both tanks in their day as well.



posted on Aug, 24 2004 @ 07:50 AM
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Originally posted by zerb


Now that makes me think of the mi24 hind. That thing is one flying tank too.


Actually Mi-24 only looks like a tank, it is a very vulnerable helicopter.But Ka-50/52 is another story ...



posted on Aug, 24 2004 @ 08:11 AM
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20mm,23mm,27mm,35mm,ect. Missiles are the way to go. Armour piercing rounds are expensive and difficult to make,I believe the armoured forces always getting priority in these.Tngsten rounds,few and far between.
High explosive is cheap,and no amount of armour plate,tank or aircraft will save you from just several kilos of it detonating.
The cannon shells,it depends.Is it a contact fuse? Are the barrels the long ones for high velocity? Rate of fire? Reliability? You only have one Vulcan.But you have several missiles,each of which have a seeking capability at long range.



posted on Aug, 24 2004 @ 09:44 AM
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If you hit the jet along the Engine or in the engines then they will de straight for the ground. But it really depends where you hit them and big the caliber of the cannon is. Apaches can take some damage too



posted on Aug, 24 2004 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by longbow

Originally posted by zerb


Now that makes me think of the mi24 hind. That thing is one flying tank too.


Actually Mi-24 only looks like a tank, it is a very vulnerable helicopter.But Ka-50/52 is another story ...


The AT helicopter with the dual rotor?



posted on Aug, 24 2004 @ 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by zerb


The AT helicopter with the dual rotor?


Yes, and what?



posted on Aug, 24 2004 @ 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by WestPoint23
If you hit the jet along the Engine or in the engines then they will de straight for the ground. But it really depends where you hit them and big the caliber of the cannon is. Apaches can take some damage too



Apaches? Like 2 shots from ak-74? Or was it hunting rifle



posted on Aug, 24 2004 @ 02:11 PM
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Originally posted by Beast

Originally posted by WestPoint23
If you hit the jet along the Engine or in the engines then they will de straight for the ground. But it really depends where you hit them and big the caliber of the cannon is. Apaches can take some damage too



Apaches? Like 2 shots from ak-74? Or was it hunting rifle


No, just Bagdad Bob and his propaganda.



posted on Aug, 24 2004 @ 02:11 PM
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"Arabic peoples are not fond of helicopters you will find.Clogged filters..."2IC



posted on Aug, 24 2004 @ 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by Beast


Apaches? Like 2 shots from ak-74? Or was it hunting rifle


Thats the golden BB just about any aircraft can fall victim to this scenario. A bullet just has to hit that sweet spot and it will drop like you hit it with a SAM.


E_T

posted on Aug, 24 2004 @ 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by ShadowXIX
I dont know if this is what your talking about but heres a link to how much damage a A-10 took in Iraq and still flew home.

www.aircraftresourcecenter.com... 00/0016_A-10-battle-damage/story0016.htm

I think to answer your question you would have to state what type of plane you are talking about because they vary in armour durablity.

"Anyone seen the wing?"



tailslide.firelight.dynip.com...



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