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reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 10:58 AM by MajorTom4754

reply to post by Yankee451

Ohhkay, just had more time to read it just now and only more reason to think it was staged,
unless otherwise shown.
And okay gabby, but just I will leave people with this quote from I don't remember who.

"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"

So, what would you do if you faced the person you felt responsible for the attacks was in front of you?
*That is obviously a question for anyone or food for thought*

reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 11:01 AM by Yankee451

Originally posted by MajorTom4754
reply to post by Yankee451

Ohhkay, just had more time to read it just now and only more reason to think it was staged,
unless otherwise shown.
"

So, what would you do if you faced the person you felt responsible for the attacks was in front of you?
*That is obviously a question for anyone or food for thought*

What would I do? I'd not vote for him for starters.

reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 11:04 AM by MajorTom4754

reply to post by Yankee451

Lol, good decision, I know plenty of us would tie them up and think of the worst thing
possible to due to them, not that maybe they didn't deserve it, but that rides on the persons
own consciousness should they also do to them what they did to others.

reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 11:06 AM by Yankee451

Originally posted by MajorTom4754
reply to post by Yankee451

Lol, good decision, I know plenty of us would tie them up and think of the worst thing
possible to due to them, not that maybe they didn't deserve it, but that rides on the persons
own consciousness should they also do to them what they did to others.

Here's how I really think about it:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Is it just me or does it sound like Bush and Clinton were working together prior to Clinton’s presidential run? Do these guys give a rat’s ass about politics at all or is that just their means of getting their hands on the keys to the Kingdom? It sure helps to explain why Bush 1 and 2 are so chummy with Slick Willy, but you little psychos like to believe that’s for “bi-partisanship” and “solidarity" don't you?

What color is the sky in your world anyway?

If my one armed blind grandmother can tell it has nothing to do with bi-partisanship and everything to do with them being psycho mobster drug- running, rapists and murderers who are flipping you the bird while groping your children at airports, what the hell is your excuse? Perspective is a marvelous thing; Bill and George, the lesser and much lesser, are psycho scumbags who should be labeled as such while they’re paraded around the country in tar and feathers after being forced to give up the names and addresses of all their co-conspirators. This is my perspective and I’m not interested in yours, because you’re psycho and this is my rant.

reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 11:13 AM by Lynzer

Originally posted by JibbyJedi
reply to post by Eirian

I thought how awful it was that no one wanted to claim him because he 'jumped' as opposed to fell, and thereby in the eyes of the religious committed a sin.

Last I heard, Jesus claimed all sinners as his equal, he especially took in and helped the sinners.

Most people who consider themselves "Religious" are usually HypoChristians, they'll tell you to live by the word of God/Jesus as they patronize, judge, & shun you on their way to Walmart to buy goods made by child slaves from China.

If ATS had a "like" button I would like your statement. Amen.

reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 11:15 AM by MajorTom4754

reply to post by Yankee451

That says alot, most of which we already assumed and now can assume even more with
more evidence then most people get put away for, for life!

I think it's safe to say, most of the world governments is in on it, most of them...
Obviously any that aren't need to disappear.
Any army that kills is just as bad as the worst army that kills ( One that comes to mosts mind is Hitler, and
why do we call him by his last name

)

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reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 11:19 AM by gabby2011

reply to post by MajorTom4754

So, what would you do if you faced the person you felt responsible for the attacks was in front of you? *That is obviously a question for anyone or food for thought*

If I knew they were not sorry at all..and were planning more..I'd want someone to do something about it. I know myself well enough to know that I am too much of a wuss to kill, and I don't know how to operate or use a weapon...but I'd sure let someone know what was about to go down, that could take control , if that was possible.

I ask you this.. would you become an accessory to murder..if you knew that those responsible were planning more deaths..but you did nothing about it..?

You can't prove in court that they are guilty..because they are to clever to cover their tracks... you know that they are for a fact doing something that will cause the death of many people?

Do you kill a few to save many..? Do you let them keep killing?

What would you do? It isn't about an eye for an eye.. its about preventing other eyes from being torn out.. big difference.

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reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 11:24 AM by MajorTom4754

reply to post by gabby2011

Nice comeback, that is deep...very deep.

Only after alot of thinking on it can one really make a conscious decision.
Hopefully one they can live with, but really, I just don't see it being too long before
people think they know who is anyone person is responsible then go and attack that person.

I think we all know that people mad that 9/11 even happened are the ones you don't want
to face.
We know bush was bad, but if someone believes bush had anything to do with those deaths
then he better run and hide at busch gardens, noone will expect him to be there.

reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 11:44 AM by Shelbee

Personally I don't see the people who jumped as suicide bids. I see them as people faced with a no win situation placed in an impossible place who literally put their fate in the Gods hands. A true case of trust in me.

I would like to believe that they experienced a few moments of freedom before their souls were taken by God/dess (insert own term) before hitting the floor. I truly hope they felt no pain.

I don't want to fight over this - my colleague lost her son in one of the Towers. He could have been one of the jumpers or he could have been killed outright. No one knows.

What I do know is that its a situation that I do not EVER wish to be placed in.

S

reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 12:43 PM by Open2Truth

The audacity of some people to pass judgement on others - no one, and I do mean no one, can understand the choices those people faced. Until you can say you have walked in the shoes of another, I reject categorically reject judgement.

May those who hold religious dogma closer to their hearts than the remains of their loved ones be forgiven. The jumpers? They never needed forgiveness.

reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 01:45 PM by bloodnoir

I was home watching CNN that day. A reporter was describing what was going on, and I kept hearing Thud, Thud. I was trying to pay attention to what he was saying, and then it stuck me those are people jumping! I could not wrap my mind around the despair that drove them to die that way.

For weeks, I heard that sound in my mind as I tried to get to sleep. It is the first thing I think about when someone mentions 9/11, and I never want to hear it again.

For people to turn their back on family that chose to end it that way, that day, was unforgivable. God would not be that petty, are they better than God?

reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 01:48 PM by Yankee451

Originally posted by bloodnoir
I was home watching CNN that day. A reporter was describing what was going on, and I kept hearing Thud, Thud. I was trying to pay attention to what he was saying, and then it stuck me those are people jumping! I could not wrap my mind around the despair that drove them to die that way.

For weeks, I heard that sound in my mind as I tried to get to sleep. It is the first thing I think about when someone mentions 9/11, and I never want to hear it again.

For people to turn their back on family that chose to end it that way, that day, was unforgivable. God would not be that petty, are they better than God?

The jumpers reach right for the fear and horror, punctuated by sound effects. Classic propaganda.

reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 02:02 PM by bloodnoir

reply to post by Yankee451

If that was propaganda, It made me a believer. It was right out of my nightmares.

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reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 02:11 PM by Yankee451

Originally posted by bloodnoir
reply to post by Yankee451

If that was propaganda, It made me a believer. It was right out of my nightmares.

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I don't know how old you are, so you may or may not have heard of the War of the Worlds Radio broadcast in the '30s.

The movie with Tom what's his face is based on the story.

What occurred was the government was using it's latest mass media tool to conduct a psychological experiment to see how well this tool "radio", could manipulate the perceptions of the audience.

Please listen to this audio link below to hear what happened:

War of the Worlds Broadcast a Psyop

With that in mind, any of my links in my signature will give you some eye opening insight into the role of the media in modern society.

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reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 02:32 PM by bloodnoir

reply to post by Yankee451

Thank you for the audio link, It was quite informative. I can understand what you are saying, what we think we saw may not be what we think. But( you knew there had to be one) people died, and in a horrible way. No matter who did what, it was a terrorist act, and a tragedy.

reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 02:37 PM by Yankee451

reply to post by bloodnoir

No matter who did what, it was a terrorist act, and a tragedy.

Yes...and a continuing tragedy. This is why its so important to expose our leaders as the real terrorists. If they'd fake such an atrocity just for a pretense to commit other atrocities, we're not in Kansas anymore and it's time to start tending to our own house.

reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 02:43 PM by Suspiria

I don't think any of those people willingly jumped to their deaths. They were probably hanging out of windows and just succumbed to the fumes and fell.

reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 02:43 PM by arbiture

Oh dear God, give me a f****** break. Have you ever actually been on fire? I haven’t, but have met people who survived who where after the fact. People who are experiencing such pain go mad, they will do anything to make the pain stop. Anything. I don’t know about anyones definition of God, but mine is one that is of infinite peace, wisdom and love. And perhaps all understanding mortal beings will behave in whys that is guess what? Mortal. Pain motivates, every bastard on Earth knows that. I would have dove out a window as others did had I been there. Suicide? Bull #, simple physiologic response to pain. Hey the All mighty gets it, sadly so often we don’t, until were in that moment. And that I would wish on no one.

reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 02:43 PM by syrinx high priest

Originally posted by filosophia
Maybe no one claimed them because they weren't real. We can't show the body of Bin Laden but we can show school children people jumping from their deaths.

shame on you. I bet you wouldn't have the guts to say that to a widows face.

reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 03:14 PM by gabby2011

Originally posted by syrinx high priest

Originally posted by filosophia
Maybe no one claimed them because they weren't real. We can't show the body of Bin Laden but we can show school children people jumping from their deaths.

shame on you. I bet you wouldn't have the guts to say that to a widows face.

While he may be wrong about them NOT being real bodies.... I know for a fact I personally wouldn't want anyone in the public..children or adults ..watching my husband who is in sheer terror and panic..or perhaps passed out from inhaling smoke..falling to his death. ..over...and over...and over again..

That has to hurt...deeply.

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