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Originally posted by Mcupobob
reply to post by RadeonGFXRHumanGTXisAlien
JFK prolly didn't even know he was related to the king. His father wasn't some rich banker but a Mobster undermining the Government during the prohibition era. If you want to argue these ridiculous beliefs at least know you're history and facts. Of course you won't because you believe that to be a conspiracy too. Hell why don't you just go all out and claim that we live in the Matrix and everything we know and see is a lie?
Now, I'm related to George Washington myself through his sister. I come from a line of rich land owners who've gambled and womanized there way out of their wealth with each generation. Now pray tell, being a close descendant of G.W himself why isn't my family have any political power or major wealth? Because there is no secret family circle of Freemason as few people know their genealogy, I only know this because my aunt spent a good year researching it.
I also don't know why you hate the Freemason as they were consider heretics of the church, you know the religion you hate so much.
www.cracked.com...
www.destroyfreemasonry.com...
fundamentalist Christians despise the Freemasons as the go against the Traditional church.
the freemasons are a exclusive club
Originally posted by sara123123
reply to post by RadeonGFXRHumanGTXisAlien
So are you saying that the constitution is nonsense because you found some socialist's dirt and smear on the Founding Fathers? What kind of government would you propose replace our constitutional government? You do realize that the founding fathers were not all one thing nor of the same ideology?
Ron Paul is a constitutionalist. He wants to restore the constitution since the elite have "progressed" into centralized control and internationalism and are pretending they are no longer under the rule of law. Ron Paul is my represenative. He is more interested in the founder's ideas and knowledge than he is concerned with leftist political smears against them. Have you ever heard him talk about the founders' ruling document? He would not agree with you at all in petty smearing of the founders.
Maybe you should have Obama as your avatar. Stalin? Mao? How about Hitler? They all hated the US constitution, too. They wanted to rule over the world like our socialist internationalists desire to do. Freaks.
Originally posted by sara123123
maybe you should have Obama as your avatar. Stalin? Mao? How about Hitler? They all hated the US constitution, too. They wanted to rule over the world like our socialist internationalists desire to do. Freaks.
That's exactly what im saying,and thanks for proving anecdotal evidence for divide and conquer. The founding fathers would be proud of you.
That's exactly what im saying,and thanks for proving anecdotal evidence for divide and conquer.
Originally posted by RadeonGFXRHumanGTXisAlien
I remember saying, how JFK was nothing but a puppet, and how his death was, staged, just a show, a play, the performing arts.
After all, why would he betray, the bankers, the queen etc who are all tied into this?
Why would JFK, expose, and dismantle the federal reserve, and the corporations hold on the world?
If he did, people would have acknowledged it, from there on in, and would riot for these new "rights".
He himself, was related to prince harry, the queen, kate middleton, the bankers etc.
I'll tell you why, because people can't see beyond family, even if it is a threat, to justice and the truth.
Family comes first, the right thing always will come last, people can't see the truth, when family is involved or some sort of relation is involved, either way.
All im saying is, you won't believe what im saying, because your family was involved with the founding fathers, revolutionary war they were all tied into it, you and your family are involved in this.
But as you wish.edit on 10-9-2011 by RadeonGFXRHumanGTXisAlien because: (no reason given)
Slavery predates written records and has existed in many cultures.[3] The number of slaves today is higher than at any point in history,[4] remaining as high as 12 million[5] to 27 million,[6][7][8] though this is probably the smallest proportion of the world's population in history.[9] Most are debt slaves, largely in South Asia, who are under debt bondage incurred by lenders, sometimes even for generations.[10] Human trafficking is primarily for prostituting women and children into sex industries.[11]
Evidence of slavery predates written records, and has existed in many cultures.[3] Prehistoric graves from about 8000 BC in Lower Egypt suggest that a Libyan people enslaved a San[disambiguation needed]-like tribe.[15]
The Bible refers to slavery as an established institution. Slavery was known in civilizations as old as Sumer, as well as almost every other ancient civilization, including Ancient Egypt, Ancient China, the Akkadian Empire, Assyria, Ancient India, Ancient Greece, the Roman Empire, the Islamic Caliphate, and the pre-Columbian civilizations of the Americas.[3]
An estimated 12 million Africans arrived in the Americas from the 16th to the 19th centuries.[43] Of these, an estimated 645,000 were brought to what is now the United States. The usual estimate is that about 15 per cent of slaves died during the voyage, with mortality rates considerably higher in Africa itself in the process of capturing and transporting indigenous peoples to the ships. Approximately 6 million Africans were killed by other blacks in tribal wars.[44] The white citizens of Virginia decided to treat the first Africans in Virginia as indentured servants.[45] Over half of all European immigrants to Colonial America during the 17th and 18th centuries arrived as indentured servants.[46] In 1655, John Casor, a black man, became the first legally recognized slave in the present United States.[47]
Originally posted by Mcupobob
For instance, why did your thread title have to include "Religion" in it? This thread has nothing to do with Religion. That is what I mean by Inflammatory, it was unnecessary and uncalled for. Certainly not going to win anybody to your side or view point by making indirect attacks.
Originally posted by neo96
the founders were indeed just men who had a grand vision that has be peed on crapped on for the past 200 years.
Originally posted by Mcupobob
reply to post by RadeonGFXRHumanGTXisAlien
Its so cute see how sure of yourself you are
Of course you struck a nerve with people, you're stating ridiculous claims that are not based on truth or facts but emotion and disinformation. When confronted on this things instead of coming back with an credible argument you just fall back on this sort of smug "Theres no way I'm wrong attitude, and you are all just being defensive".
Every post I see of yours is nothing but Inflammatory and sometimes hateful for no reason. Its okay to be against the "status quo" as it were, but back up you're claims with careful research and present you're argument in a calm pragmatic way and be prepared to defend your argument from every angle. The way you approach things is almost border line trolling.
Most of all, be prepared to admit the times you are wrong. Because, this may shock you, people can be wrong, even you.
I will renounce all I've said in this thread if you can give me the proof it is wrong and I've exhausted all forms of debate against it. So far, all I've heard from you is statements presented in the form of Rhetoric and as matter a fact.
EDIT: For instance, why did your thread title have to include "Religion" in it? This thread has nothing to do with Religion. That is what I mean by Inflammatory, it was unnecessary and uncalled for. Certainly not going to win anybody to your side or view point by making indirect attacks.edit on 9/11/2011 by Mcupobob because: Those damn consertives!!