Houston we have a problem : Breakup of Comet Elenin is slowing it down

Originally posted by Theophoros

Originally posted by SaturnFX

So, perhaps you should spend a bit of time slamming the people like video maker for stroking the fear and panic of wormwood elenin death star or whatever verses say -nobody- is speaking doom and gloom about elenin...

"The same judgment you judge others with you are guilty of yourself" - proven by your choice of avatar...

Ehh?
My avatar is of a zombie crashing through ATS...you can of course get many meaning from it, but ultimately my take on it is...zombies are cool, and world war Z is coming out next year, whoot

However, I am not trying to suggest zombies are real....
Or are they...

Could I just make one point.....
Its about NASA's terminology regarding comets....
Calling Elenin "Wimpy" 2km...
So a 4 km+ would be "abit less wimpy".........
Then just a third more would be ...oh yeah, "the PT extinction event comet"... Just stick to the numbers NASA, less of the kindergarten terminology.
Using the numbers if it were to be a slam dunk it's a 30% die off.
Now you see why i was chucked off the official Elenin Facebook group they hate the numbers and....detail.

Originally posted by quedup

Originally posted by Old77
Its not breaking up.

Is it breaking up or not - I don't know because there are so many conflicting opinions.

No there's not, there's only 2.

Either it is.

Or


......



wait for it.....




........


It is'nt.


second line

reply to post by DreamerOracle

A spherical object of diameter 2km has a volume of 4.2 cubic km.
A spherical object of diameter 4km has a volume of 16.8 cubic km.
A spherical object of diameter 5.3km (1/3 more than 4) has a volume of 29.6 cubic km.

Yes, there's a pretty good difference between 2km and 5.3km, 7 times the mass. Now, feel free to calculate the difference in kinetic energy using a density of your choice.

Numbers.

Not that it matters since Elenin (or what's left of it) will not impact Earth. But if it did it would not be pleasant.

I suppose it depends on what you call proof. Can you provide 100% proof that your parents are really your parents?

No,i guess i cant,just a birth certificate,or unless i got a DNA test.
But id rather go with my parents word.

Have you seen "Elenin" Phage?

love the end of the world type music for the video. it fits the scenario, imo. And we wonder why Russia is building bunkers.. lol

reply to post by BillyBoBBizWorth

I don't believe them.
Now what?

No. I haven't seen Elenin.
I haven't seen Paris either (France or Hilton).

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by BillyBoBBizWorth

 

I don't believe them.
Now what?

Well do you have reasons for not believing him?
I think reasons should matter.

reply to post by deadeyedick

Why not believe Leonid Elenin?
Why not believe Rob McNaught?
Why not believe Michael Mattiazzo?
Why not believe any of the astronomers who have seen and photographed Elenin?

Why should I believe his parents and not them?

reply to post by iNkGeEk


You're forgetting the in between possibilities. It could fragment and some of those fragments could strike several parts of the earth at once causing world wide devastation, not enough to wipe out all life, but enough to break our society into a tatters.

Also, it could stay relatively together, but pass close enough to rip some of our atmosphere away, causing world wide devastation that takes decades or centuries to wipe us out and all out ensuing chaos on earth.

So it's not a who cares there's nothing we can do. It's more, those of us who prepare for the less than immediate all out destruction will be relatively alright and those ostriches who bury their heads in the sand will be crying for their mommies to save them...

Jaden

reply to post by Phage


What's the third law of motion Phage???

Jaden

So NASA claims that this comet which they call Elenin is disintegrating?
I wondering if NASA will get any photo's of this or can we see this comet with a telescope?

reply to post by thyextendedself


Well that depends on what you consider doomsday. I'm sure that the couple of hundred thousand people that died in the tsunami that hit indonesia would agree it was doomsday. I'm sure the people of Japan would agree also.

There is always doomsday coming. If you prepare as best you can without going overboard based on the predictions of doomsdays here at ATS, you will be best off as you can when the doomsday that comes to your area inevitably comes....

Jaden

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by deadeyedick

 

Why not believe Leonid Elenin?
Why not believe Rob McNaught?
Why not believe Michael Mattiazzo?
Why not believe any of the astronomers who have seen and photographed Elenin?

Why should I believe his parents and not them?

I have honestly thought about this.The best answer i can come up with is that i have seen 100% proof of things in my life that don't exist.What i have found is that life is all about perception and perception is not truth.In the end chances are you were correct but if you take a look at the last two years KANSAS WENT BYE BYE! I dont wanna not be prepared.

reply to post by Phage

Merely an observation and minor irritant in terminology and I don't know if its gonna hit... I'm airing on isn't and have my Newtonian and Camera set up ready for it... Its just my geography thats against me at the moment... Rainy CLOUDY Wales.

Well lets do a little what if numbers ....
av. 400 megatons Impact
48,768 Km Crater Radius (earth toast)
14,630 Km Depth(Completely Toast)
0.5 Km Rim height
0.9 Km Rubble pile in the centre after the dust settles.
actually scratch the die off we'd be screwed but then theres the trajectory..... these numbers would be greatly reduced as in the past impacts.
p.s Meteor Crater was my model. For those currious heres a Accurate Guide rather than my ramblings....

reply to post by ErgoTheConfusion


You can't believe what you know is false, but then again the only thing that you can know is that your consciousness exists. So the only thing that that would apply to was if you believed that you didn't exist...

Jaden

reply to post by greenCo

Velocity = mass * acceleration
This is simply not so! The equation you are thinking about is:
Force = mass * acceleration
No applied force, no change in velocity.

reply to post by BillyBoBBizWorth

No.
NASA does not claim the comet is disintegrating.

Originally posted by Masterjaden
reply to post by Phage

 

What's the third law of motion Phage???

Jaden

Action/reaction.
What does that have to do with fragmentation?

Originally posted by greenCo

Originally posted by chr0naut
reply to post by Theophoros

 

Latest science says it does appear to have broken up. Even its discoverer Leon Elenin has commented on its break up.

Because the pieces are in the vacuum of space and the forces upon the comet are unchanged, they are not, essentially, changing direction, slowing down, speeding up or anything similar. The comet is just becoming softer and fuzzier as moves on its original orbital trajectory.

Not at all.
Velocity = mass * acceleration... so less mass because is breaking up, then less velocity. Simple physics.

Actually, it is F=Ma where F is force. That is unless you do velocities in kilogram-meters per second squared. The rest of us do velocities in meters per second.