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Does anyone ACTUALLY support this "Perry" guy?

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posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 12:20 AM
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and still more
newsweek.washingtonpost.com...

A federal judge in Michigan has declined to dismiss an ex-Marine's lawsuit that insurance giant AIG is using tax dollars to promote Islamic Sharia law and charities that may be funneling money to terrorist organizations.


The facts of the case "raise a question of whether the government's involvement with AIG has created the effect of promoting religion and sufficiently raise Plaintiff's claim beyond the speculative level," U.S. Dist. Judge Lawrence P. Zatkoff ruled.


According to the lawsuit, filed by the conservative Christian Thomas More Law Center, at least a portion of AIG's $40 billion federal bailout has been used to support Sharia-compliant financial products. The suit claims that violates the First Amendment's establishment clause. "It is outrageous that AIG has been using taxpayer money to promote Islam and Shariah law, which potentially provides support for terrorist activities aimed at killing Americans," Richard Thompson, President and Chief Counsel of the Thomas More Law Center, said in a statement.




posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 01:46 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by MrXYZ
 


Well what do you think? It is the Left promoting Sharia compliant AIG by providing taxpayer subsidies for it. The Left seems to be supporting Sharia in general. Where is the outrage about women wearing shrouds over their faces all day long? It is the Left which usually supports Hamas and other radical groups. I am not too sure Perry is supported by Soros. Just listen to Ed Schultz complain about him.


Also, I would still vote Perry over Obama any day of the week.



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edit on 9-9-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)


Haven't you got the word?.. there is no such thing, in reality, called "the left".. or "right".. just folks with different opinions who get painted into corners by pseudo intellectual ignorance. Just like it's literally impossible to be "anti-American".. nobody knows 350+ million people well enough to be "Anti" all of them.

These are divide & conquer things one recognizes at some point after waking up to the fact the "honest" US body politic died from 2 party cancer a long time ago... all that remains is divisive game elitists play while laughing at sucker pawns dumb enough to buy into the recycling of failure..



posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by Grumble
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How about Adolf Hitler? Would you support Hitler vs. Obama?

Where does this intense hatred come from? Be honest.


Are you serious? Do you not live in this country? Why the taunt? Do YOU think his skin color has anything to do with how thoroughly he has f***ed up the economy?? And don't blame Bush - Obama has had 4 years to make improvements and all he has done is make it twice as bad. He needs to GO!

Stop with the race card. Let's you be honest, too - that's what you were suggesting.



posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by AwakeinNM

Originally posted by Grumble
reply to post by Carseller4
 


How about Adolf Hitler? Would you support Hitler vs. Obama?

Where does this intense hatred come from? Be honest.


Obama has had 4 years to make improvements and all he has done is make it twice as bad.


For the sake of accuracy, President Obama has been in office for 2 years, 7 months, 22 days...but hey, who's counting, right?



posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by MrXYZ
 


and still more
newsweek.washingtonpost.com...

A federal judge in Michigan has declined to dismiss an ex-Marine's lawsuit that insurance giant AIG is using tax dollars to promote Islamic Sharia law and charities that may be funneling money to terrorist organizations.


The facts of the case "raise a question of whether the government's involvement with AIG has created the effect of promoting religion and sufficiently raise Plaintiff's claim beyond the speculative level," U.S. Dist. Judge Lawrence P. Zatkoff ruled.


According to the lawsuit, filed by the conservative Christian Thomas More Law Center, at least a portion of AIG's $40 billion federal bailout has been used to support Sharia-compliant financial products. The suit claims that violates the First Amendment's establishment clause. "It is outrageous that AIG has been using taxpayer money to promote Islam and Shariah law, which potentially provides support for terrorist activities aimed at killing Americans," Richard Thompson, President and Chief Counsel of the Thomas More Law Center, said in a statement.


Just fyi, they lost that lawsuit and the article you link is from 2009. Not surprising that they lost it, Sharia economic laws aren't against any human rights or hurting anyone...let alone funding terrorism. Hell, many of the Sharia economic laws completely match our western economic laws, and the differences are pretty subtle. Like, they're not allowed to invest in companies profiting from the sale of alcohol. How dangerous, right? Damn terrorists not profiting from alcohol sales


But who cares about facts if they can just give into religious paranoia like that ridiculous Thomas More Law Center...right?



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posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 07:13 PM
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Its funny that no one has really come out in support of this guy in this thread yet...

And he is going to be your next President... Weird.



posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by Velocismo
Watched CNN World News last night before bed. Had a wonderful story about this Perry guy and all the executions in Texas. They were saying that there was an innocent man who had a botched investigation that Perry had covered up to keep quiet. Interviewed the investigators into the alleged arson that was said to have killed this mans 3 kids.

Im still trying to find the names and more information.


In my opinion when Perry was asked about it, its was so blatantly obvious that he was just saying the correct thing calling the man who was executed "a monster"... Dunno... Just seemed so ... Fake? Forced?

Got a real bad vibe. But really, who does the American Republican have left to vote for? I guess Paul but that will never happen. Everytime he is mentioned in the news its like its a sidenote or "pfft as if this guy will win"...

Maybe wake up all the minorities that voted for Obama and get them on the right train to recovery

As long as idiots exist, yes there will be people that support him. Imagine this guy as president, innocent people will get executed, and his NAFTA superhighway will be in full force!



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 12:25 AM
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Sooo...I still can't find a single person who supports this guy. Even on the internet.

Who are these people being polled and saying he's great?



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 12:36 AM
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posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 12:37 AM
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The people likely to vote for this guy, are old religious folks, crazy conservatives and, your other types who don't have internet...



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 01:34 AM
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Haven't you got the word?.. there is no such thing, in reality, called "the left".. or "right"..


yah yah yah I hear this all the time. In fact I was quoting Antony Sutton for years. But you see, what I find is everyone still just cloaks their partisan ideas in wording that just doesn't use the terms left and right. People who have leftist ideologies still have their ideologies whether they call it that or not. And no, the parties are not exactly identical. If they were, quarters would have heads on both sides. So people still have their bias even while informing others that left and right does not exist. The point of it is that Hegelian dialectical reasoning employs two opposing ideas and produces a conflict which results in a synthesis of the two ideas, being neither right nor left. Sutton says that the system of "conflict management" eventually results in the NWO.



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 01:43 AM
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yah yah right who cares that taxpayers bailed them out and there was a huge scandal. Geithner is a crook and was behind this deal. You must be a fan of his. No wonder our country is in the shape its in. You also entirely missed the point that it was part of the huge financial crisis that brought down the economy. The need for the baillout apparently goes back to credit default swaps. Also, there is a huge probabillity that taxpayer money went to support terrorism and money laundering. But never mind, it's all good cause Sharia is great and everyone is so tolerant and multicultural.



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 01:47 AM
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Hell, many of the Sharia economic laws completely match our western economic laws



Oh, I see, looks like you are quite knowledgeable about Sharia. I would love to have some links demonstrating the dovetailing of Sharia and western economics. I expect that the argument is that Sharia forbids usury. Then one has to wonder if the taxpayer baillout was a hidden subsidy of non-usury loans. Clearly the business tried to make money by making Sharia compliant loans but they cannot charge usury fees so they had to make it up somewhere.

and more


It appears that, through it’s 77.9% control of AIG’s equity and voting rights, the NYFed “sought to accomplish an illegal financial transaction through false means” by creating an “independent”: trust that was in fact not independent, placing it “in violation of federal anti-money laundering statutes (18 USC § 1956).” Here we elaborate a bit further, laying out the issue in the text of a letter submitted to Neil Barofsky, Special Inspector General for TARP (SIGTARP)– as the government takeover of AIG was accomplished using funds provided to the Troubled Asset Relief Program.



Specifically, prior to the U.S. government’s takeover of the insurance giant AIG, the company was the world’s leading promoter of Shariah-compliant finance products and businesses. Bailing out and forcefully (and illegally) taking ownership of AIG put the American taxpayer in the position of advocating Shariah-compliant finance, which is troubling on many levels:


First, the Shariah authorities themselves tell us that Shariah is a holistic and indivisible whole and that you cannot carve out “business law Shariah” from any other of its constituent parts, like the law of jihad. And, you can see this in that part of Shariah called civil law or fiqh al-muamalat. According to Shariah, AIG cannot invest its takaful funds in a business that might rent space to a church, because that would violate the principle of not supporting any religion other than Allah’s. Further, AIG may invest its funds in a military armament factory for Muslim armies but not US or infidel armies. In other words, these laws which seemingly have nothing to do with business concerns or ethics but rather everything to do with theo-political concerns apply as forcefully to Shariah-compliant finance as the laws on interest. And, of course the reason for this we know because the Shariah authorities tell us: Shariah makes no distinction between religion, law, politics and war. It is all subsumed under Allah’s law called Shariah.

biggovernment.com... unds-investigate-the-illegal-trust/
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posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 01:52 AM
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and fyi it's so obvious you have a hatred of Christianity, and yet in true liberal form you encourage Sharia and the most Totalitarian style of religion you could find. The same people who scream that we should have separation of church and state think its perfectly fine to promote other types of religion.



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 02:27 AM
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Perry is what happened when they cloned a hybrid of Dick Cheney and George Bush and let it loose on the world to torment the innocent.

But the TEA Party loves him cause you know, he's effing insane and all.



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 04:13 AM
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Originally posted by HauntWok
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Perry is what happened when they cloned a hybrid of Dick Cheney and George Bush and let it loose on the world to torment the innocent.

But the TEA Party loves him cause you know, he's effing insane and all.



Actually the tea Party did not support him in the Primary race for Governor. They supported a woman, I forget her name, but she was smeared and taken down because she said 9/11 should be looked into some more.

No one really wants Perry, even in Texas.

They sure do push him in the media though and on "conservative" talk radio here in Texas.

Nevermind he presided over the largest tax increases in Texas history, the largest attempted land grab in history, forced vaccinations of girls, total silence on Ramos and Campeon, failing to secure the Texas border with Mexico... I could go on but why? Doesn't appear anyone on ATS needs convincing that he's crap.



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 04:27 AM
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This guy appears to be a real tool,he is allover the place,why are we stuck having to vote for more Texan's they are quick with the mouth but when put to test all their talk is BS



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 05:15 AM
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Originally posted by Obama
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The people likely to vote for this guy, are old religious folks, crazy conservatives and, your other types who don't have internet...


you have to admit, perry keeps everything so simple that even if old and over medicated, he won't force you to think.

all one liners, code words, no intellectual effort required.

drunks in barrooms might also like that, nothing mentally hard, only faith required, rah, rah, rah.


it will be interesting to see how his anti social security stand goes in florida and arizona, states with large numbers of geritol voters.
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posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 06:06 AM
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i really hope parry doesnt get elected, all of the progress with regenerative medicines using stem cells will come to a halt if this religious nut gets into office and that would be the least of our worries



posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 07:23 AM
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I love how you keep on posting about AIG's Sharia-compliant financial products as if they committed a crime...when they really haven't. Offering Sharia-compliant products isn't an act of terrorism


It mostly means those specific funds don't invest in stuff that profits from the sale of alcohol.

Don't get me wrong, the bailouts were almost criminal, but that goes for all institutions they bailed out, not just AIG because they offer Sharia-compliant products. Especially if a US court established that there is NO CONNECTION between offering those products and terrorism.

But who cares about facts, right? Just giving into religious paranoia is the easier route


I believe Muslims are just as delusional as Christians (and Hindus). But when it comes to these Sharia economic laws, I really don't see an issue. It's the same as "thou shall not kill" stuff in the bible. I don't agree with the religion as a whole (because it lacks objective proof/evidence), but you can't really argue about not killing people.

Anyway, my guess is you'll continue to post your nonsense lawsuit completely ignoring the fact that the ruling proved their innocence. And of course it did, because Sharia economic laws don't hurt people or support terrorism.



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