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Originally posted by CountDrac
reply to post by backinblack
By aid you mean Weapons. We saw how well it worked for israel when they left Gaza. A week didnt pass by and the palestinian animals starting shooting rockets at civilian towns in northern israel. So much for peace with Arabs...
Gaza is a joke, israel should transfer all the palestinians there to jordan and be done with them...edit on 13-9-2011 by CountDrac because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ladyvictoria5
I think most of you are missing the forest because of trees. Israel and Turkey will not fight. Here is why:
This is all part of the Greater Middle East Project. Last year someone pushed a button and we end up with the Arab spring in all these countries. These countries need a new form of government, one in which there is more tolerance and democracy. So you have Turkey in the region - only secular, democracy with a conservative, elected government. If you also look at the history of the ME, it is clear there can not be any Great Game in this region without Turks. Someone is trying to put Turks in charge. How do you do that? by having Erdogan attack Israel and by Israel being its own belligerent self. Arabs are sick of tired of Israel and their own ineffective leaders. But Turks are a different story:
They ruled over Arabs and Jews in ME 600 years. They have no fear of any one in that region and they know the culture very well.
They are a NATO ally with a powerful military.
Turkish economy is the fastest growing economy in the world today (even faster than China). In the next decade, they will be within the top 10 largest economies in the world.
They have a legitimately elected party in power, with a very popular, tough leader - Erdogan.
There is a major transfer of popular culture and values from Turks to Arab nations for several years now. Most watched shows in these countries are Turkish soap operas which spread ideas of personal freedom, liberal views of women, love, dating, education etc..
Today, Erdogan was on Egyptian TV extolling the virtues of the secular democracy and his hopes the Egypt will follow Turkey's lead. So what we are looking at here is an attempt to create a more friendly ME. I also think TPTB do not like the current Israeli government, hence, any unsuccessful skirmish with Turkey may bring down an already unpopular government. Also, in the long run, Israel will profit from this because there will be more security for her. This is my theory and I believe we will see it being proven in several years.
Originally posted by IsraeliGuy
Is this entire forum filled with little kids? What's this crap about "Israel pissing it's pants" and "Turkey losing sleep at night"? You guys for sure aren't for real, are you? Damn shame if you are.
This is nothing but a big blowing of hot air. Nothing will happen. No Turkish ship will enter Israeli waters and if it will, it will be destroyed and the Turks will have nothing to do but to weep in their own misery for not learning not to break our naval blockade.
You guys that are talking so much about how 'this' is scared of 'that' probably never seen a gun before, let alone know something about military/political/naval conflicts such as this one. Stop making a joke out of yourselves ffs.
Seriously, go put on a mini skirt, pom pons, and a sign that says "GO TURKEY" while making silly jumps and singing lousy catchphrases. You give out the impression of nothing more than a bunch of cheerleaders that can barely understand the game being played or what are the rules.
-From the Israeli POV: You can be dead sure nobody is scared of any Turkish ship, especially not at these times. So ships are on their way, so what? They can go all the way if they feel the need to, it's just stupid to believe a Turkish armed ship is going to try and break the naval blockade.edit on 9-9-2011 by IsraeliGuy because: (no reason given)edit on 9-9-2011 by IsraeliGuy because: (no reason given)