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Arguably the people in the UK also set the agenda, in that the issues of the day are reflected in the business of the government. Simply put, if the government does not reflect the general will of the people then they are booted out of office. You may think that they are not, but the evidence sugests they are.
disagree. I think people now are more informed than ever. I am certainly informed, or like to think so. You go into a pub and there will be half a dozen opinions on how to kill the proverbial cat. Whether the “public at large” gives a toss is moot.
The “public at large” are happy to proceed with their lives so long as certain things happen and lines are not crossed. For example, a line was crossed with MP’s expenses and not only did some politicians lose their seats, the government has been compelled to act.
Similarly, although we rant and rave about Europe and all hold an opinion about the pesky French, actually the “public at large” want economic stability and their freedoms assured. They don’t want to read the Marrastrict Treaty or even know how to spell the bloody word! If they want to be “informed” then there are hundreds of websites and newspapers to help them.
Translated to the UK, for a “Frequent Referendum” to be called 1.2% of the electorate would have to support it – that’s 500,000+ people to get a legal revision considered. For a Popular Initiative, to get some political debate would be 2.5% of the electorate, or 1.2 million people filling a form.
The current situation in the UK is that the government will debate an issue if 100,000 people sign a petition. It seems the UK proviso is more generous then Switzerland!
Prove to me that the average UK person is less “informed” than their Swiss counterpart.
Originally posted by christina-66
...there is one country that does more than any other to embody popular sovereignty within a multi-ethnic, multilingual and multi-confessional society: Switzerland.
In this alpine republic with just seven million people, citizens' law-making is exercised on all political levels - including almost 3,000 autonomous municipalities, 26 sovereign states and on the common, federal level.
While it embraces direct democracy, Switzerland is nevertheless still a representative democracy. Most laws are made and decided by parliament. The important difference, however, between the Swiss system and the "indirect" democracy of Britain is that citizens are entitled to put almost every law decided by their representatives to a general vote - if they want.
For this to happen, members of the public need to gather 50,000 signatures (approximately one per cent of the electorate) within 100 days of the publication of a new law. In 96 out of 100 cases, no such referendum is triggered, because the parliamentary process enjoys a very high level of legitimacy. That is because the elected lawmakers know that their work will be seriously checked by the public, so do a very good job indeed.
Daily Telegraph
Compared to purely representative democratic systems, direct democracy (or ‘pure democracy’) fundamentally alters the communication among citizens and also between citizens and their elected representatives.
People are incentivised to become better informed on issues affecting them because what they think matters and has influence. The better informed citizenry give the politicians far less leeway to pursue personal interests.....and happy side effects, certainly in Switzerland’s case, include lower public expenditure, lower public debt, and lower tax evasion because people feel more responsible for their community.
With the result that...
Switzerland has emerged as the country with the highest quality of living in a survey designed to help governments and multinational companies place employees on international assignments.
Source
This is a tried and tested system with impressive results. Is there any good reason why such a system couldn’t be implemented in the UK? I honestly can’t think of one. I can come up with plenty of good reasons why we should tho’.
1. We have a successful system of direct democracy to emulate.
2. They have among the highest standards of living on the planet compared to the UK’s current ranking of 28th.
Source
3. Apart from the implementation of a framework to facilitate direct democracy the present system would not require to be dismantled overnight.
4. Direct democracy would affect change organically per the will of the people.
5. Lessen, if not eliminate, the requirement for political parties and their rhetoric.
6. It is government of the people, by the people for the people.
7. The UK’s political elite need a wakeup call – whether they be in power or not.
8. It would reinvigorate our democracy and liven up political debate.
9. It raises issues elites want to suppress.
10. It provides a simple route to repeal bad legislation.
11. It enables new ideas.
12. It restores representative government to a point where parliamentary members do actually represent the will of the people.
Originally posted by christina-66
You really think people are more informed than ever? Really? When The Sun is the biggest selling paper in the country and it writes for an IQ of about 80? There’s certainly a lot of misinformation out there. A lot of fantasy conspiracy that distracts from the real matters at hand....that and pop idol.
Originally posted by christina-66
Prove to me that the average UK person is less “informed” than their Swiss counterpart.
Pop into any Glasgow chatroom any old time....you can hear it for yourself.
Originally posted by D4Saken
While this sounds brilliant, won't "The Powers That Be" just squash it.
The D notice for instance, would quickly end any real debate on the matter.
Safely returning the sheep back to the fold. Content in their ignorance once again.
I could be wrong. I doubt it. But I could be.
Perhaps as an example:The Princess Diana Assassination.D Noticeedit on 8-9-2011 by D4Saken because: The Princess Diana Assassination.