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I am trying to determine when the first Flying Saucer 'Mothership'
arrived here and was seen and reported.
A Mothership would be defined as being rather large in comparison to several smaller discs
What follows are the earliest ones I know of. If you know of any others it would be most appreciated.
May 5 1947 - Tucson, Arizona
Mrs. H.G. Olavick witnessed ten flying discs make some curious aerial maneuvers near Tucson.
One of those objects appeared larger than the other nine discs, perhaps as big as 100 feet in diameter. Viewed with her husband, they both agreed at
the time that the discs must be some sort of new high performance military aircraft.
As they watched, the nine smaller craft began "playing around the cloud" in violent aerial maneuvers for about seven minutes as if making mock
dogfights. Finally regrouping in a V formation behind the larger craft, they flew off with tremendous acceleration toward the northeast.
(source: Dr. James McDonald)
June 30 1947 - Norwood, Ohio - Night EST
CINCINNATI TIMES-STAR (Ohio) 7/7
Mrs. H. W. Stockwell reported that she saw a group of seven disc-like objects in the sky over Norwood.
One of the discs was much larger than the rest
and she estimated its size to be at least "a mile in diameter."
She did not mention the sighting until a week later because she said she felt "a little silly about it. Now I think that if they are dangerous,
everybody should know about them
July 6 1947 - Palmdale, California - 10:36 p.m. PST
SOUTH ANTELOPE VALLEY PRESS (California) 7/10
LOS ANGELES NEWS 7/7
LOS ANGELES TIMES 7/7
LOS ANGELES EXAMINER 7/8
LOS ANGELES HERALD-EXPRESS 7/7
DENVER POST (INS, Lancaster) 7/7
CHICAGO HERALD-AMERICAN (INS, Lancaster) 7/7
DETROIT NEWS (UP) 7/7
MONTREAL STAR (UP) 7/7
Mrs. Amy Herdliska, reported that she had seen a group of objects twice during the late evening behaving in a most peculiar manner.
She reported to Sgt. W. K. Campbell, of the Lancaster County sheriff's substation that "over the mountains south of Palmdale, I saw what looked like
a mama disc, with three to five little baby discs flying around her
"The little ones would cavort around for awhile, then they'd fly back and seem to fly into the mama disc's pouch. Anyway, the mama disc absorbed the
baby discs," she explained.
Mrs. Herdliska said that the objects "were luminescent and clearly visible," and before they had disappeared to the south over the mountains, they
were seen "separating" again.
She reported that a second flight of the same puzzling objects was made again at 11:17 p.m.
July 7 1947 - Tacoma, Washington - 2:30 a.m. PST
TACOMA NEWS-TRIBUNE (Washington) 7/7
SEATTLE TIMES (Washington) 7/7
SPOKANE DAILY CHRONICLE (AP, Tacoma) (Washington) 7/7
OREGON JOURNAL (AP, Tacoma) (Portland) 7/7
TACOMA TIMES (Washington) 7/7 - Tacoma Police Sight Soaring Discs
OREGON JOURNAL (Portland) 7/7 - Tacoma Cops Spy Discs Around 'Mother'
Two Tacoma prowl car officers Evan Davies and Stan Johnson were parked at North 33rd and Adams Streets with their headlights and motor turned off.
Davies' attention was caught by a "streak" in the sky; looking more closely, he saw a strange spectacle.
"I didn't say anything," he reported later. "Then I noticed Stan was watching it too."
"Do you see anything?" Johnson asked.
"Yeah, do you?" Davies answered cautiously.
"I thought I was crazy," Johnson remarked with relief. "I've been watching it for five minutes."
"So have I," his partner admitted.
The cause for this guarded exchange was the sight of a group of six or seven disc-like objects seen just below a bright moon in the southern sky.
One central object, larger than the others, seemed to act as a sort of "flagship." The smaller objects would make repeated movements toward the
large disc and then glide away to the south
The officers said the larger disc appeared to be "spinning like a top, and throwing off sparks like a bursting sky rocket," and then attracting the
tiny objects back "like a mother hen with her chicks
The officers estimated that the objects were at an altitude of about 10,000 feet. The smaller "and more distinct objects" began to move westward in a
loose group, and vanished from view, while the large disc remained for a brief time in one spot, and then it too began to move westward.
The men decided to give chase, and Davies radioed the police dispatcher, D. F. Erickson,
"Car No. 5, Johnson and Davies to KGZN. We're chasing a flying saucer towards the Narrows Bridge site
As they sped westward, the officers radioed their course and a running description of the phenomenon. Johnson said that although it was impossible to
judge altitude, size, speed or distance accurately, the large disc appeared to move at tremendous speed and was the apparent "size of a softball."
(ed: at arm's length)
One of the smaller discs was seen flying over South Tacoma; later, another was seen to the west, over Hood Canal; a third, which flew out of sight in
less than a minute, appeared over Commencement Bay.
At one point, the large object made a rapid ascent of an estimated 5,000 feet above its former altitude at extremely high speed, "quicker than you
could snap your fingers,"
according to Davies.
He said that the parent disc "seemed a shade of red part of the time, particularly when it zoomed upward, but most of the time it was a sort of
Johnson vividly recalled the way the objects jumped over considerable distances.
The officers finally lost sight of the object over the western horizon. In all, they had observed the phenomenon for a half an hour.
At the police station, officers said an unnamed caller from South Tacoma had phoned in exactly at the same time to report seeing the same spectacle,
and M. C. Streans, reported he had watched the same phenomenon sometime after 2:00 a.m.
Davies said that the most striking feature of the entire sighting was the way the objects would suddenly jump from one location to another spot "miles
At one point they had shot up suddenly through a substantial vertical distance. Both Davies and Johnson agreed that these objects could not have been
any conventional aircraft.
There was another patrol car which had been alerted and the officers in that car had also seen the objects
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