Originally posted by charles1952
I'm delighted to make your acquaintance. There don't seem to be many people who are willing to be reasonable about this topic (or a lot of other
Accepting your example of Libya, do you see any way of encouraging "moderate" Islamic governments in the world? Perhaps even push back the more
"strictly observant," and bring them to moderation? Or is Islam too dedicated to total control by any means, for there to be any peace?
I, too, think of a better world. That makes this one so much more difficult. Is the only solution a choice between giving up our freedoms to Islam
and giving up our freedoms in the fight against Islam?
You're also right about the generally "screwed up" nature of the world. Do you think that governmental changes to greater democracy would help? I
believe I read somewhere (don't hold me to it) that no democracy with a strong free press has ever had a famine. True? I don't know. But I think
it's easier to corrupt one man than one million.
Hi, Pleased to make your aquaintance also.
In my opinion, i think when anyone enters into politics of any nature it is by its very design going to bring about radicals on both sides because
they are the people that want things to be a certain way, 1 side want 1 thing, the other want something else entirely, so they kind of argue it out
that way. So no i do not think that in the current circumstances we are able to bring moderates through, you have seen how the parliament in say
pakistan acts? regularly breaking into fights, madness. Yes, i do agree that it would like to rule completely everywhere, that would be there goal,
however could not the same be said of the supposed super powers of this world?
I think every democracy at a certain point must become a dictatorship as it is impossible to allow everyone complete freedom to do whatever they like
whenever they like without it impacting on someone else, if you get my meaning? i do think we have gone a step too far with some of the stuff that we
do in the country nowadays, the law as it stands is all about financial gain rather than justice, for example we operate under contract law and trust
law, but under our constitution, we are still supposed to be ruled via common law, which is all based on injury , harm or loss. the 3 perfect
principles of law that cover everything, does anyone care? no.
"Giving up our freedoms to islam or giving up our freedoms in the fight against islam" very good question, i think it is more complex than this, i
believe the people that run things have planned for it to be this way, like i said in my earlier post, they are far from stupid, it divides us all
again with the use of religion, what a tool!. I honestly believe they are being used by tptb if you like to achieve what they want to achieve, we are
all pawns being played at every oppurtunity. It is just like 1 huge chess game in my opinion, and none of us can know too much about what is going on
because we do not know all the rules of the game.
The only thing that i tend to think about government is that they should work for the people, not for the rich or the elite, but the people, no one is
better than anyone else in my eyes. I think we have far too many proffesional politicians in the world, they are out of touch and tend to come from
certain families that go back generations and generations. How are we to ever have change if we keep employing people from the same lineage to keep
chasing the old agendas? i believe that this is the real reason why politics never achieves anything. 1 thing i try and remember often is that i was
born free, and i will die free, all of the stuff in between is just bs. I try and live within the common law boundries, i give no one authority over
me, if i were to do that, then these silly statute's and acts which everyone thinks is law, would actually have the force of law, if i do not agree
to and do not give power to anyone, then these acts are just that, acts, no force of law.
I tell you now, that after learning more about Libya, i understand the bigger picture of why we went in there, i disagree with it however. Definately
easier to corrupt 1 man than a million, why do you think we have these secret meetings every year with the council of 300 etc, easier to do business
in private where each has the same agenda, sad really but there you have it, the world continues to spin and we continue to be played.
Take care, i have rambled enough lol