UFO Triangle Hovering Moscow September 07, 2011

What I don't understand about people is that when surveys are carried out most people accept that UFOs are a reality then when provided with many evidence based sightings - most people say 'no - that's a lantern or a plane or a bird' which in many cases just doesn't stand up - perhaps we do believe but are afraid - when confronted with the evidence so we automatically deny it - as we deny many things in life that we prefer not to face up to.

I am now of the opinion that it is now common knowledge that UFOs do exist and are commonly seen in our skies - and it's the ones who don't believe who are starting to look like the fools!

This is not a real UFO
And definitely not a reflection from a window lol...
It's a video effect ok?

Ok so the window is open, the window panes on the right clearly show that there would be a difference in video clarity. So we can rule out glare or refection. The focus and graininess of the clouds to light seem to match up, just compare one light as it passes one cloud with the trailing light,and it has a similar flicker and change.
The way it uni formally changes the angles as it rotates also looks correct. Given the amount of fakes out there, is hard to tell. Imo is authentic
Good video op.
TC

Anyone thinking ufos dont exist, get instantly debunked, since they do exist.

The Muscovite is showing a distinct lack of interest in what he is viewing, (must be the vod) not to sure about reflections though, and what is a triumph TR doing in the clouds..almost forgot, they have nearly all gone to motor heaven.

I'd go for Hong Kong Phooey.

reply to post by Lysergic

watch closely at approximately 1 minute and 9 seconds into the news segment you can see the news anchor
is finding it really odd and actually laughable and is probably did not know they were going tell her what was going to be on the teleprompter.it goes on with her actually rolling her eyes in acute repulsion to the lies she is telling the general public.just a sidenote about the strange triangular lights those are from a spacecraft that nasa built long a ago that is triangular and yet has a box shape.when the came out with the stealth bomber the people were made aware that there were already many experimental aircraft that were highly classified.the government decided after grabbing nazi scientist after ww2 that they would indoctrinate the american public with ''alien'' stories and alien
movies and all things aliens.not that i do not believe in an alien life form but why would they want anything to do with us???they are going to start bombing people randomly and shooting lasers everywhere and getting people
to give up their freedoms and the ultimate game is to create one leader one religion[atheism]one military with no borders or identity just a number and an assignment to what place you will be serving the rest of your life being a slave serving the global elite who will live like gods and slowly over time our children will believe them to be gods just as in the days of the roman and greek periods where the power of government was all consuming.what is interesting to note is that in those days the kings and ceasar would have gladiators a very sick form of entertainment designed to please the overlords spread fear while indoctrinating the masses to be senselesss uncaring sinful natures with no morals or a godly nature
this alien stuff..a complete hoax designed by area 51 and carried out by carbon carriers al gore and his global cronies.after being alive for 32 and a half years i still have not found one credible piece of evidence proving that aliens exist here on earth.this is terrorism fearmongering ON STERIODS!!! screw dc we should walk out to the pentagon and chain those doors shut and then out to area 51 and do the same.

reply to post by rickyrrr

as they say in wikipedia: Citation needed. what guy, when did he say that? -rrr

There you go

It's in Belgian, but play around with a translator and the opening paragraphs translate roughly to:

The mystery of the famous UFO 90 years elucidated: "A hoax" The photo had been around the world and was analyzed by the most eminent specialists. None had solved the mystery of the UFO and Breakfast Rechain became the emblem of the Belgian UFO wave of the 90s. Eighteen years later, the author unveils the hoax.

reply to post by topcat7

The sliding window pane on the right has an insect screen. The fixed pane on the left does not. Something like this:

im pretty sharp with videos, my eye can pick these things apart, i have to say that this really looks legit, i would call bogus if it was i have many times. but i really think that this is real video. is it of extraterrestrial origin that remains to be seen, may or may not be

reply to post by NeoVain


Since when do average-joe citizens carry hollywood grade cameras with them wherever they go?

Majority of UFO footage comes from crappy cameras, because people are using their phones. Phone cameras are not very good, and majority of cases it happens to be the only camera available at the time.

IMO this is a good piece of footage. It isn't exactly blurry, and the buildings show a decent reference point to compare the size of this thing (it looks pretty far away). Though it could be absolutely anything, rule out the obvious and then its safe to say UFO.

Originally posted by torsion

Originally posted by Newbomb Turk
I am thinking TR-3B how about ya'll?

Nope.

3 more Chinese lanterns reaching their burn-out stage. The flickering flames give the false impression that they are going behind the clouds.

Do you have any evidence to support that claim? Blindly saying "this is _______" is quite silly. There is a large possibility that the footage could be Chinese lanterns, but there is not enough detail in the footage to know that for sure, it could be absolutely anything. Until then, this is a genuine UFO sighting, because it is unidentifiable...

reply to post by Phage


I'm not sure about that either, the left side could be simply open and its panel is over to the right, and there is a difference in light richness between the two panels. I don't think that the entire image is reflection from behind.
the 'triangular' subject is erratic beyond any triangular configuration, no matter which way it might turn, or triangulate from a almost fixed observation, so is not a triangular object, except possibly in a reflection from behind, but that is very subjective.

Originally posted by rickyrrr

Originally posted by torsion
reply to post by JibbyJedi

 

That photo of the Belgian triangular "craft" is a bad example to use. The guy who took it has admitted it was a hoax.

as they say in wikipedia: Citation needed.

what guy, when did he say that?

-rrr

Here's one source
news.discovery.com...=emnws1
Scroll down to The Belgian UFO Photo

I say TR3B. My main reasoning is that it moves just like one.

To CGI this would be a doddle, in fact no CGI would be necessary. This could be knocked up using basic editing software.

I would point out that hoaxers often can't help themselves and go for a touch of the spectacular or epic such as creating a blinding flash before we lose sight of the object. Not the case here.

The movement of the lights is true to that of a TR3B. Also they are of the correct hue. The large central one is not visible because it is not fully powered up. In Star Trek terms, the craft is using impulse power, not warp drive.

This is why I think it's genuine. That and the fact that water (vapour in clouds) affects the crafts' ability to cloak.

This is just my humble opinion and concede that this could be a mock up.

Without the original media we can only speculate.

Looks legit to me...it cant be identified therefore its a UFO..plain and simple....for those experts that cry out CGI..please replicate the video and share it with us. thank you.

S&F

reply to post by JibbyJedi

Hi Jibby Jedi, I think we have shared a similar experience... and the frustration that comes from it!

I tried to photograph the thing I saw but couldn't get through my phone's menu system fast enough to get it into camera mode. Those things can really shift! Guess that's life...

I forgot about it for a while and then came across a couple of videos by Edgar Fouche. Then I joined ATS!

PS Regarding your drive(s), I'm no expert but will U2U to see if I can help as I am eager to see the other photos.
EDIT TO SAY Just seen your thread on Computer Help and will post there instead.

about the OP Moscow video i would like to suggest that this may be CGI

reason:
assuming that this is something flying in the sky in these clouds, i would expect to see the lights being dimmed by the clouds in a specific way which would correlate with the clouds to be seen.

But if you watch carefully you see the lights dimming out in a way which looks just wrong.

instead of being just partially dimmed, the lights are totally blocked at times you see it pass through a THIN layer of clouds.
This does not match (i would say).

If every good video is stamped CGI , then those corporations that make these programs, should be well funded by black ops to make better and user friendly programs so that the real footage can be swiped as CGI ? that to me alone could be a false flag operation of destroying real evidence?

reply to post by 0bserver1


People get to hung up on CGI this and CGI that. It's a simple fact, cgi programs are so easy and cheap these days I could train a baboon to make a fake UFO video. Just because you don't understand how to use them, doesn't mean that millions of others don't. And it just so happens that, for a lot of people, inserting stupid lights or cheesy modeled crafts in footage is fun to do, and a great way to hone your skills. The folks using these programs are computer geeks like us, most interested in science fiction and the like to begin with. So forget cgi. If people instead focused on the common sense things that surround such videos they could easily dismiss them without even trying to determine if they are cgi.

Uh, lemme see....ah......massive UFO over highly populated area.........there are a TON of ancillary things that would accompany a video.

Remember the "Haiti" video. All the folks working so hard to figure out if it was fake or not? Common sense told anyone with half a brain it was fake after the first few seconds. Why? NO ANCILLARY EVIDENCE.

Trust me, if these stupid cgi videos (like the one in this thread, the idiotic Jerusalem one, etc) had ANY veracity to them, you would be seeing a heck of a lot more than some stupid youtube video linked to a conspiracy board.

So again, don't get hung up on if something may be cgi or not. Before burning any brain cells to figure that out, take the entire case as a whole. And in the case of most of these videos, there isn't even a case to take into account for real.

Originally posted by InnerPeace2012
reply to post by Phage

 

No disrespect but, your video is a definite fake. The OP's video seems more realistic, for the following reasons, if I may suggest:

- It seems to be moving behind the clouds.
- The crafts texture and lighting is uniform with surrounding environment.
- the camera is shaky.

What made this ufo video more realistic for you? Was it the dozens upon dozens of people pointing up at the sky? Was it the dude yelling at his neighbor to look out the window? Was it the throngs of news reports about this event (over a highly populated area) and the dozens of camera phone pics from dozens of different locations? Seriously, besides the cheesy (and OBVIOUSLY FAKE) video, what made it more "real" for you?

I am puzzled as to why people automaticly assume UFO's belong to aliens