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reply posted on 9-9-2011 @ 02:11 PM by hp1229
Originally posted by brommas
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post by timewalker


Excellent post, but this whole war thing is getting old now,


War has always been part of Humans and Evolution. Civilizations were established and flourished in the desperate effort to break away from the tyranny and politics of the few.

One form or the other, War will co-exist as long as we think different


reply posted on 9-9-2011 @ 03:51 PM by Asktheanimals
reply to post by centurion1211



Apparently I was born in a time when we fought with a things like bravery and personal honor. A time when it was one man against another with no machines separating you. When you could actually see the eyes of an enemy.
When you weren't fighting someone thousands of miles away from you while you sit in air-conditioned comfort swilling a Coke with a PS2 controller in your hands.

Back when to go to war meant real personal risk to yourself which meant that you did not just go out and start a war unless it was absolutely the last resort.

I know, kings have been ordering serfs off to fight to make them richer since we first created states.
If I was to end up fighting I'd like to think I could actually see my enemy before they kill me, if for nothing else than curiousity's sake.


reply posted on 9-9-2011 @ 04:09 PM by Asktheanimals
I want to add if you look at our history the vast majority of new technologies we've developed have been created due to war. Had we put that same amount of money and creativity in to tech that would make life better and pollutes less the world would be a far better place.
Today's generation has but one God - technology. If it's new and can destroy things in a novel fashion it is held in high regard. I'm not criticizing young people - we raised them this way. If we don't start caring about life we're going to find our own species on the way out.
Why? We're too creative for our own good. We can already destroy the world something like 60X over yet we keep inventing more and more of this crap.
Why do we need wars? Truth is, we don't. Everything to do with war is cruel and corrupt and is the reason the US is now a pariah among Nations, near universally hated and despised and very few are jealous of us any more due to the drop in the quality of life. War is breaking our economy and putting us in to debt slavery for generations.
Not to mention we routinely torture now and spy on everybody, our own citizens included.
I would love to see our world free from the scourge of war so that all the young people today can enjoy peaceful lives wihtout the threat of war looming overhead like a circling vulture.
So far the wars have been fought overseas. when it's your town and your home and your family blown to kingdom come war will suddenly seem like the worst idea ever, and it is and always will be.


reply posted on 9-9-2011 @ 09:58 PM by dr_strangecraft
Originally posted by Asktheanimals
reply to
post by centurion1211



Apparently I was born in a time when we fought with a things like bravery and personal honor. A time when it was one man against another with no machines separating you. When you could actually see the eyes of an enemy.


I agree with you. The Plains Indians practiced warfare in the way most humans have throughout history--proving that you were more manly than your adversary, rather than killing him. Much of their warfare was seasonal, and involved primarily the theft of horses, which by 1800 had become so numerous that most males owned between 3 and 20.

Like medieval warriors, the concept of a uniform was completely alien; battle dress was intended to identify the unique individual, and proclaim his mighty deeds for all to see.

Napoleon modernized warfare with his campaigns across Europe; Sherman was universally vilified in his day for attacking Southern civilians and property, instead of facing his enemies in open formal combat.

This was about the same time that dueling was being outlawed. A gentleman no longer dueled with an offender who insulted him or spread lies: "Don't Get Mad---take 'em to court!"

Honor died when it became a crime to defend it with physical force. Now, the best you can do is sue your tormentor.

Honor has been supplanted by economics.


reply posted on 17-9-2011 @ 07:14 PM by Banjof
reply to post by Pervius



That's how animals like cats see (smell), they can tell who's been in the room before them.

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