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reply posted on 20-12-2005 @ 11:26 PM by Cicada
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You're not changing the point of the thread (I don't think), because it's about the astronomical phenomena of the ecliptic plane and the impending
convergences of 12/21/2012. Various systems have been brought into the discussion including the Hindu Yugas and the Mayan calendar. The point about
the dating that I'm trying to make is that you're arguing from a position of faith, a literal belief in the word of the Vedas, whereas my position
is that a literal belief in Hinduism is a misunderstanding of material that had its origins in allegorical descriptions of astronomical bodies and
their movements. It's not my intention to insult or attack anyone's religious beliefs, but we can't be restrained by modern day concepts of dogma
in our investigation of this material.
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reply posted on 30-8-2006 @ 09:50 AM by zablackwolf
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What a great thread.Very thought provoking.Thanks to you all I have some inspiration for a new song.Been awhile since the last post I hope aliasjones
will be updating soon.
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reply posted on 30-8-2006 @ 07:13 PM by ViolatoR
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Sorry too hungry to read this thread so heres whatI got
Originally posted by ViolatoR
The earth will complete a cycle in its wobble on December 21 of 2012. This is called the draco cycle because the earths wobble draws a circle around
most of the draco constillation. Due to the shifting of our north star the constillations appear to move around in whats called the precession of the
equinox/zodiac. Also, the sun's path will cross into the dark spot in the milky way which is considered to be the mouth of the Xibalba or mayan
underworld; so the sun will descend into hell so to speak. This dark area is also the "mouth" of a huge serpent who is swallowing its own tail
(Ouroboros).
The reason that it happens on this date is because this same event 26,000 years ago is supposed to be the beginning of the world for the mayans. The 9
levels of creation of consciousness come to fruition at the end of their calander which is in 2012.
This crossing of the sun's path through the center of the galaxy is known as the Tree of Life to the mayans and the event will happen at exactly
11:11am GMT.
And
( www.near-death.com...)
Approximately every 121 years, the planet Venus transits in front of the sun (called a planetary "eclipse" or "occultation). This eclipse of
Venus always happens in pairs. The first occurred on June 8th, 2004, and the second will take place on June 6, 2012. Astrologers believe that
this eight-year period in between eclipses of Venus represents a kind of “doorway” through which a global consciousness will begin to dominate
humanity. The year 2012 is a very important date because it is also the end of the Mayan calendar. The Mayans were able to determine the exact
timing between Venus passages to the exact number and without fine optical observation instruments, it is still a mystery how Mayan astrologers were
able to discern such an exact timing. Mayan prophecy states that a new consciousness will be born on the 2012 eclipse of Venus. The Mayan's
associated the planet Venus with Quetzalcoatl, the Mayan messiah figure who lived in the year 40 AD and who is supposed to return again in 2012.
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reply posted on 1-9-2006 @ 01:29 AM by BlackGuardXIII
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As one dies, so another is born...
Originally posted by kshatreya_putrudu
Hey guys,
Good discussion going on.
Just want to clear something, the Kali Yuga is not to end for thousands of years. We are still relatively in the beginning of the Kali Yuga.
'So, the Yuga system is about precession, as we have decoded from the classic cycle lengths above, and after looking at Jenkins' updates to
Yukteswar's work, we can see that the end of Descending Kali Yuga corresponds to the Pisces - Aquarius transition of Western astrology, and to the
solstice-galaxy alignment era AD 1998 - 2012.' Cicada
I thank you Cicada, for your supportive info, and enjoyed it. It is now claimed by some that there are over 100 cultures which have traditions passed
down from ancient times which all point to the same general time period as being a major event. In my research, I have read at least a dozen that
quite clearly show that the time is very near. Only the Maya have a date, but others refer to the astronomical alignment which will exist at that
time. The American Indian prophecies are at the top of my list of favorites. They describe signs which are very specific and clear to me, such as
the eagle flying to the moon, a house in the sky, and the children of the newcomers adopting the Native ways, such as long hair, painted faces, and
the idea that all people are family. The hippy movement fit that one in my view. There are many others I find just as clearly foretold. On a more
scientific note, I offer this. Astronomers have recorded a solar phenomenon affecting stars which are of the same type as our own, which they can't
explain. They will become much brighter for a very short time, like a few days. Then they return to their previous brightness. One star became
seven times as bright as normal. If our sun did this, the effects would be very much like what has been foreseen - global fires, etc. The fires of
hell may well be the setting of the preparation for the rebirth. For every birth, their must also be a death. I bet that something like this solar
flare up will be the cleansing event, and that the survivors will usher in a much more spiritual era.
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reply posted on 2-9-2006 @ 12:18 AM by ViolatoR
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Isnt there some passage in revelations that speaks about the signs in the sky and a cross in the heavens, the cross-ing of the sun's path and the
galactice center - tree of life - abyss - mouth of a serpent - conjucted with the draco cycle - precession of the equinox - eclipse of venus/lucifer -
alignment thingy? anyone know??????????? Ill look for it right now and see if I can find it, so ill brb.
so far this is the closest that I can find.
Matthew 24:30
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man
coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
(This next quote isnt all that related but it sounds fitting
Luke 21:25
“And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the
waves roaring; 26 men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the
heavens will be shaken. 27 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 Now when these things begin to
happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”
Ok sorry but I cant find what I was looking for. Anyways the Hebrews were really good astronomers as well and perhaps they knew of the alignment
comming in 2012.
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reply posted on 2-9-2006 @ 06:02 AM by BlackGuardXIII
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check out Revelations 13 onward.
The book tells of a great fire burning the men, and a global disaster which kills almost everything and everyone. It is hard to make sense of much of
it, but the references to fire from the sky, a great heat burning the men, etc. fit in with the many other ancient descriptions.
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reply posted on 15-10-2006 @ 01:51 PM by Longy4eva
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thats one dam big read! pardon my ignorance, but i couldn't get through all of it, i'm not very informed on astrology, wish i was but could never
get my head around the Zodiac calendar or Mayan calendar, whichever it may be. all that info, what does it culminate into? is this a spacial
alignment? and if it does mean something for Humans, what? and why would a spacial shift affect us in such a way? i'm not being picky or anything
here, these are general "stupid people" questions that people like myself would ask.
Anyway, interesting topic, wish i understood it!
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reply posted on 15-10-2006 @ 02:09 PM by 2stepsfromtop
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I like the story line done by Flagship Studios for their new game called 'Hellgate:London'. They state that on that date in 2012 rifts (dimensional
gates) will open to our world directly from hell and we will be invaded.
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reply posted on 15-10-2006 @ 02:34 PM by littlebird
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very nice alias, i loved it. i beleive in the myan calender, its been here alot longer than anything i have encountered. it seems an ending of earth
and a new beginning is about to occurr, not only in the myan calender, but in world events. the closer we get to that date, the worse things will get.
all havoc and ruin in the years 2007-2012, the dawn of man and from 2012- whenever is the new beginning i believe.
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reply posted on 8-10-2007 @ 04:54 AM by drumjod
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Is there an explanation as to what properties outside of the Earth's atmosphere have a substantial effect on the human mind?
When planets and stars are in a certain alignment, what mysterious forces are emmitted toward our planet? Gravity? Light? Magic?
From generation to generation the human mind continues to improve and adapt. Countless unique personalities develope from birth to death. day to day,
moment to moment. It is logical that every aspect of an individuals mental and physical attributes are influenced by genetics and our (earth based)
environment. It is apparrent that our moons gravity has an effect on the ocean tides.
As we gain a better understanding of how the universe works, it becomes more difficult to comprehend supernatural ideas.
Science may claim that nearby planets and celestial bodies are made up of the same elements found on Earth. Some might claim we have acheived a full
understanding of how the human brain functions and developes. Logic and observence of tangible evidence has led some to believe that distant planets
and constellations do not determine our personality traits.
Skeptics may be overlooking the fact that every emotion, decision, and opportunity they experience could be the result of what day they were born on.
Instead of focusing on finding the solution to a problem, we can ask the stars what the problem means.
Hopefully, as we discover more through astronomy, we will gain a better understanding what we can and cannot predict.
I predict that corruption, conflict, confusion, and superstition, will fade as we adapt and collaborate.
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reply posted on 16-10-2007 @ 04:25 PM by x4:20x
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Just wondering  , what does everybody think about the scientists that say the poles may reverse on this date causing mass earthquakes,volcanoes and
giant hurricanes?
I happen to be of the persuasion that there will be the end of an era and the beggining of a new one. I think that cycles are everpresent in our world
and that time is just one of them. I dont believe that time runs in a straight line, I believe that time runs in a circle or cycles...Buuut, thats
just me, and opinions are like assholes...everyone has them and most stink...lol.
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reply posted on 11-2-2008 @ 11:29 PM by falucho05
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Hi everyone! I loved the readings on this thread. I have an Astrological software to cast natal, events, etc. charts, so I made a chart for 21
December 2012 at 11:11 Am the time of the solstice here in Miami Beach. If anybody knows how to interpret it please do so here. I don't know much
about how to interpret them. Here I leave the copy of it.
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