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reply posted on 30-8-2006 @ 07:13 PM by ViolatoR
Sorry too hungry to read this thread so heres whatI got

Originally posted by ViolatoR
The earth will complete a cycle in its wobble on December 21 of 2012. This is called the draco cycle because the earths wobble draws a circle around most of the draco constillation. Due to the shifting of our north star the constillations appear to move around in whats called the precession of the equinox/zodiac. Also, the sun's path will cross into the dark spot in the milky way which is considered to be the mouth of the Xibalba or mayan underworld; so the sun will descend into hell so to speak. This dark area is also the "mouth" of a huge serpent who is swallowing its own tail (Ouroboros).

The reason that it happens on this date is because this same event 26,000 years ago is supposed to be the beginning of the world for the mayans. The 9 levels of creation of consciousness come to fruition at the end of their calander which is in 2012.

This crossing of the sun's path through the center of the galaxy is known as the Tree of Life to the mayans and the event will happen at exactly 11:11am GMT.


And

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Approximately every 121 years, the planet Venus transits in front of the sun (called a planetary "eclipse" or "occultation). This eclipse of Venus always happens in pairs. The first occurred on June 8th, 2004, and the second will take place on June 6, 2012. Astrologers believe that this eight-year period in between eclipses of Venus represents a kind of “doorway” through which a global consciousness will begin to dominate humanity. The year 2012 is a very important date because it is also the end of the Mayan calendar. The Mayans were able to determine the exact timing between Venus passages to the exact number and without fine optical observation instruments, it is still a mystery how Mayan astrologers were able to discern such an exact timing. Mayan prophecy states that a new consciousness will be born on the 2012 eclipse of Venus. The Mayan's associated the planet Venus with Quetzalcoatl, the Mayan messiah figure who lived in the year 40 AD and who is supposed to return again in 2012.



reply posted on 1-9-2006 @ 01:29 AM by BlackGuardXIII
Originally posted by kshatreya_putrudu
Hey guys,
Good discussion going on.
Just want to clear something, the Kali Yuga is not to end for thousands of years. We are still relatively in the beginning of the Kali Yuga.

'So, the Yuga system is about precession, as we have decoded from the classic cycle lengths above, and after looking at Jenkins' updates to Yukteswar's work, we can see that the end of Descending Kali Yuga corresponds to the Pisces - Aquarius transition of Western astrology, and to the solstice-galaxy alignment era AD 1998 - 2012.' Cicada

I thank you Cicada, for your supportive info, and enjoyed it. It is now claimed by some that there are over 100 cultures which have traditions passed down from ancient times which all point to the same general time period as being a major event. In my research, I have read at least a dozen that quite clearly show that the time is very near. Only the Maya have a date, but others refer to the astronomical alignment which will exist at that time. The American Indian prophecies are at the top of my list of favorites. They describe signs which are very specific and clear to me, such as the eagle flying to the moon, a house in the sky, and the children of the newcomers adopting the Native ways, such as long hair, painted faces, and the idea that all people are family. The hippy movement fit that one in my view. There are many others I find just as clearly foretold. On a more scientific note, I offer this. Astronomers have recorded a solar phenomenon affecting stars which are of the same type as our own, which they can't explain. They will become much brighter for a very short time, like a few days. Then they return to their previous brightness. One star became seven times as bright as normal. If our sun did this, the effects would be very much like what has been foreseen - global fires, etc. The fires of hell may well be the setting of the preparation for the rebirth. For every birth, their must also be a death. I bet that something like this solar flare up will be the cleansing event, and that the survivors will usher in a much more spiritual era.


reply posted on 2-9-2006 @ 12:18 AM by ViolatoR
Isnt there some passage in revelations that speaks about the signs in the sky and a cross in the heavens, the cross-ing of the sun's path and the galactice center - tree of life - abyss - mouth of a serpent - conjucted with the draco cycle - precession of the equinox - eclipse of venus/lucifer - alignment thingy? anyone know??????????? Ill look for it right now and see if I can find it, so ill brb.

so far this is the closest that I can find.

Matthew 24:30
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

(This next quote isnt all that related but it sounds fitting

Luke 21:25
“And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; 26 men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”

Ok sorry but I cant find what I was looking for. Anyways the Hebrews were really good astronomers as well and perhaps they knew of the alignment comming in 2012.

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reply posted on 8-10-2007 @ 04:54 AM by drumjod
Is there an explanation as to what properties outside of the Earth's atmosphere have a substantial effect on the human mind?
When planets and stars are in a certain alignment, what mysterious forces are emmitted toward our planet? Gravity? Light? Magic?

From generation to generation the human mind continues to improve and adapt. Countless unique personalities develope from birth to death. day to day, moment to moment. It is logical that every aspect of an individuals mental and physical attributes are influenced by genetics and our (earth based) environment. It is apparrent that our moons gravity has an effect on the ocean tides.
As we gain a better understanding of how the universe works, it becomes more difficult to comprehend supernatural ideas.
Science may claim that nearby planets and celestial bodies are made up of the same elements found on Earth. Some might claim we have acheived a full understanding of how the human brain functions and developes. Logic and observence of tangible evidence has led some to believe that distant planets and constellations do not determine our personality traits.
Skeptics may be overlooking the fact that every emotion, decision, and opportunity they experience could be the result of what day they were born on. Instead of focusing on finding the solution to a problem, we can ask the stars what the problem means.
Hopefully, as we discover more through astronomy, we will gain a better understanding what we can and cannot predict.
I predict that corruption, conflict, confusion, and superstition, will fade as we adapt and collaborate.


reply posted on 7-5-2010 @ 08:04 AM by CHiram_Abiff
Originally posted by Alias Jones

The key points in this cycle are the equinoxes and solstices, which bear an undeniable relationship to the seasons. Once again, the circle is quartered. A new center is declared.

Actually, four possible centers are defined, each with their own unique characteristics. We seem to be especially drawn towards the spring equinox, since it is a time when the world is reborn. However, in the ancient world, many cultures were drawn towards the winter solstice as the time of rebirth. To the mythic mind, as the Sun/God sank lower and lower in the sky, it seemed inevitable that the light would disappear completely and all beings would die in the process. What a relief it was to see it slow down, stand still a few days, then slowly start to head higher in the sky again, the promise of new life to come. It is no coincidence that religions around the world all have festivals of light and birth in December, including Christianity's Christmas. The winter solstice is when gods are born.

This framework of equinoxes, solstices and the ecliptic poles forms an extremely valuable scaffolding for comprehending the motions of the Sun, Moon and planets.


>>and all of the above would be why the Freemason/Golden Dawn member A.E. Waite placed that 'zodiacal framework' on Card X of the most popular 21st century Tarot deck, that he helped design.

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Card X of the Tarot = precession clock
It depicts the four 'Fixed' signs of the zodiac. (a.k.a. four evangelists)
Vernal Equinox in Taurus would be St. Luke
Summer Solstice in Aquarius is St. Matthew
Fall Equinox in Scorpio is St. John
Winter Solstice in Leo is St. Mark

And it corresponds to 'nature's logarithmic code'?
Yes
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