How convincing could the Antichrist's deception be?, page 1


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Topic started on 7-9-2011 @ 06:01 PM by TomServo
I was raised with religion. I even attended a religious private high school. I have developed an above average understanding of the bible throughout my life. However, there have always been those holes (which many athiests cling to). This post will address one of those questions. What sort of event could cause so many belivers and nonbelievers to be decieved? What could possibly unite so many people under falsehood? We cannot agree amongst ourselves on trivial issues, much less the origins of humanity.

Alex Collier article

First off, I am not advocating Collier's claims. Just to give you some insight into who he claims to be:

Alex Collier is a self-described Ethical Extraterrestrial contactee. When someone begins to reliably “predict” certain future events, that may seem to be lunacy at the time, arguably, the context to those predictions merits a further open-minded examination. In 1995, Alex Collier had described a future event that was consistent with Fukushima. He indicated [in the above video] that humanity needed to wake up by August 2001, or face the consequence of not having done so. That consequence turned out to be 9/11 on September 11, 2001.


Now, I (as im sure many of you are) am very skeptical of his claimed ET communications. However, his predictions are enough to spark curiosity. So, I read on...


The result was then these lower-dimensional regressive aliens selectively altered human history. These alterations of human history apparently include the creation of an artificial solar system to entrap Earth, the orbit of the Moon, to the Pyramids, and also inspiring oppressive organized religions including Judaism, Christianity, Islam. These alterations of human history also apparently include fostering accompanying oppressive empires like Egypt, into the prevailing 9/11 era, and then “3/11 Fukushima“.


Wow! That invokes some pretty serious implications, right? So, lets assume hypothetically, that there existed some extraterrestrial/extradimensional entity which has observed Earth and humanity throught know history. It would then be entirely plausible that they would know enough about, well everything we know, to formulate some intricate, all encompassing explanation of the proverbial "Why are we here?". Suppose even further that this entity could provide some kind of "undeniable" evidence to backup such claims...


The God and gods described by apocalyptical organized religious text, like the “Book of Revelation“, are apparently the very regressive aliens identified by Alex Collier, that have sought to parasitize, enslave; and that are to be worshipped by humanity, as “Gods”.


This implies that such beings would have intentionally, from the beginning, defined our religion. Then, humanity would spend thousands of years running with the idea of religion as a whole, and create the diverse denominations and beliefs we have today. But, the 'Revelation' brought to humanity during the End Times would actually be: Yea, we were the ones responsible for all that.

Afterall, "The Revelation" and "The Apocalypse" literally mean the unveiling of truth. So, if such entities were to bring forth this "truth" and supply "evidence", it could easily be interpreted as "The Revelation", even by the most devout.

On one hand, I feel there are far too many religious faithful (of all religions) who lightly and quickly dismiss the threat of the great deciever. Rather, they blindly rely on God to guide them without thinking for themsleves. I dont think it will be so cut 'n dry.
On the other hand, athiests would not be immune to such an unveiling. Some may find religion, be it false or genuine. Some would probably perpetuate it as "I told you so".

Now, I know I've made a several outrageous assumptions here. But where the rubber meets the road, I dont feel its entirely bogus. More and more people every day are opening their minds every day, asking "Are we alone in the universe?" and comming to the conclusion that we are not. All I am suggesting here is the possibility, if extraterrestrial contact were to be made or disclosed in the future, could that entail irrefutable evidence of the origins of humanity and religion. What would you belive?
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reply posted on 7-9-2011 @ 06:05 PM by TomServo
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God started off as a perfect being just like we should be, He was wat made up the big bang, He is what we have become trough His infinity.


I believe this entirely... If you read the post, you will see that I am addressing the Antichrist... It also address those who strive for wisdom and logical rational thinking, but aren't quite successful. Its about the deception.
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reply posted on 7-9-2011 @ 06:19 PM by redrose123
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The best way to stop the deception is to quit being decieved. Know your enemy in order to defeat him. The Religions are in on the NWO great deception making it look like and saying it is Gods will. How can we go against God will? We can't? It is about convincing the general population that we have to buy into their self fulfilling prophesy so we won't get in their way. They are deetermined to claim themselves GODS and we must be more than happy to proclaim them as such or we would put them in their place.


reply posted on 7-9-2011 @ 06:33 PM by skepticconwatcher
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That's the deception right there. Many people will be looking for a single event. It's already happening. The culture is changing and chipping away at the faith. Churches are changing. In America, it's growing increasingly rare to find a preacher that just preaches from the Bible without going into some weird political diatribe. Instead of talking about the love of Jesus, they are telling you how to vote and bringing in politicians as guest speakers. It's a cultural shift away from Christ that's going to usher in the ultimate world leader mentioned in the Bible.

That's my take away.

preachers daughter/ political news junkie.




reply posted on 7-9-2011 @ 06:37 PM by NOTurTypical
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How convincing could the Antichrist's deception be?



The entire world will wonder after the beast, and worship him as God. So I suppose my answer is:

totally convincing.


reply posted on 7-9-2011 @ 09:07 PM by MasterGemini
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Look up the OtO connections to:

Jack Parsons (Jet Propulsion Labs, NASA)
L Ron Hubbard (Scientology founder)
Timothy Leary ('___' revolution)

. . . . just a start.

There is a conspiracy modeled after the "anti-christ"



reply posted on 7-9-2011 @ 09:18 PM by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by MasterGemini
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Look up the OtO connections to:

Jack Parsons (Jet Propulsion Labs, NASA)
L Ron Hubbard (Scientology founder)
Timothy Leary ('___' revolution)

. . . . just a start.

There is a conspiracy modeled after the "anti-christ"


Okay, link your thread plz. All that just flew about 50 feet over my head.
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