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The Crowley curse, what are U(FO) Thelema me?

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posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 05:23 PM
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Aleister Crowley, The Wickedest Man Alive
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Is Aleister Crowley the mastermind behind the 20th century?

This thread is not about Crowley, but more about the influence of his "teachings".

He influenced many people that helped shape the 20th century, a few:
Jack Parsons of Jet Propulsion Labs
L Ron Hubbard of Scientology
Jim Hensen of the Muppets
Timothy Leary
The Beetles
Jay Z
Alan Moore
Roman Polanski

And through these followers his "teachings" have continued to spread.

Thelema the Book of the Law
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Thelema is a religious philosophy (referred to by some as a religion)[1] that was established, defined and developed[2] by the early 20th century British writer and ceremonial magician, Aleister Crowley. He believed himself to be the prophet of a new age, the Æon of Horus,[3] based upon a religious experience that he had in Egypt in 1904.[1] By his account, a possibly non-corporeal being that called itself Aiwass contacted him and dictated a text known as The Book of the Law or Liber AL vel Legis, which outlined the principles of Thelema.[1][4]

The Thelemic pantheon includes a number of deities, focusing primarily on a trinity of deities adapted from ancient Egyptian religion, who are the three speakers of The Book of the Law: Nuit, Hadit and Ra-Hoor-Khuit. The religion is founded upon the idea that the 20th century marked the beginning of the Aeon of Horus, in which a new ethical code would be followed; "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law". This statement indicated that adherents, who are known as Thelemites, should seek out and follow their own true path in life, known as their True Will[5] rather than their egoic desires.[6] The philosophy also emphasizes the ritual practice of Magick.

The word "Thelema" itself is the English transliteration of the Koine Greek noun θέλημα: "will", from the verb θέλω: to will, wish, purpose. As Crowley developed the religion he wrote widely on the topic, producing what are collectively termed the Holy Books of Thelema. He also included into it ideas from occultism, Yoga and both Eastern and Western mysticism, especially the Qabalah.[7]


Jay Z
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Jay-z is now out in the open with his following of the occult and Aleister Crowleys philosophy of "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law".

Timothy Leary
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Timothy Leary: I carried on Aleister Crowley's work PBS



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posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 05:24 PM
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Pentagon spends $600,000 on a frog statue?
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Jim Henson
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Henson, who was born in Mississippi, and educated at University of Maryland, College Park, was one of the most widely known puppeteers in history.[1] He created Sam and Friends as a freshman in College Park. After suffering struggles with programs that he created, he eventually was selected to participate in Sesame Street. During this time, he also participated in the comedy series Saturday Night Live. The success of Sesame Street spawned The Muppet Show, which featured Muppets created by Henson. He also co-created with Michael Jacobs the television show Dinosaurs during his final years. In 1992, he posthumously received the Courage of Conscience Award from The Peace Abbey, and on June 16, 2011, he posthumously received the Disney Legends Award.


The brightest prospects eh?

Notice that Kermit the frog came from another student of Aleister Crowley, Pentagon frog knight and fairy queen.

Frog Knight is also in the Illuminatus Trilogy and also Hitchhikers' Guide has many refs
en.wikipedia.org...!_Trilogy
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Pentagon = Venus = Lucifer
freemasonry.bcy.ca...




The pentagram (pentacle or pentalpha) is considered by some western occultists to trace its esoteric significance to an astronomical observance of the pattern of Venus' conjunctions with the Sun.


Notice- Venus' conjunction with the SUN

LoL now onto the Bible/ Roman Catholic Church.

All Roads Lead to Rome
www.abovetopsecret.com...
A very nice dissection of world power structures.

Now the Vatican, the USA Washington Monument, and the London Obelisk are all symbols of Sun worship from Egypt, where Aleister Crowley went to channel the Book of the Law.
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posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 05:24 PM
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Then there is the NASA patches that are all essentially magic circles or triangles as outlined by Aleister Crowley in Thelema Book of the Law
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The animal should therefore be killed within the Circle, or the Triangle, as the case may be, so that its energy cannot escape. An animal should be selected whose nature accords with that of the ceremony — thus, by sacrificing a female lamb one would not obtain any appreciate quantity of the fierce energy useful to a Magician who was invoking Mars. In such a case a ram would be more suitable. And this ram should be virgin — the whole potential of its original total energy should not have been diminished in any way. For the highest spiritual working one must accordingly choose that victim which contains the greatest and purest force. A male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most satisfactory and suitable victim. [95] For evocations it would be more convenient to place the blood of the victim in the Triangle — the idea being that the spirit might obtain from the blood this subtle but physical substance which was the quintessence of its life in such a manner as to enable it to take on a visible and tangible shape.


Cattle mutilation
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A hallmark of these incidents is the surgical nature of the mutilation, and unexplained phenomena such as the complete draining of the animal's blood, loss of internal organs with no obvious point of entry, and surgically precise removal of the reproductive organs and anal coring. Another reported event is that the animal is found dumped in an area where there are no marks or tracks leading to or from the carcass, even when it is found in soft ground or mud. The surgical-type wounds tend to be cauterized by an intense heat and made by very sharp/precise instruments, with no bleeding evident. Often flesh will be removed to the bone in an exact manner, consistent across cases, such as removal of flesh from around the jaw exposing the mandible.


Aliens Featured On Air Force Insignias. Strange NASA And Black Projects Patches!
www.abovetopsecret.com...
- Notice the Silent behind the Green Door patch (is that and "Alien" wizard?)

Richard Hoagland 1/6 Parsons Crowley NASA & the Occult
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A look into the occult influence of Aleister Crowley on Jack Parsons, founder of Jet Propulsion Laboratories (JPL) and subsequently on NASA. Ceremony, Ritual and Symbolism of occult significance may be the governing force behind the space program.


Now to the importance of Aleister Crowley (1875–1947) and the 1947
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Self Sacrifice



This whole matter is prophesied in the Book of the Law itself; let the student take note, and enter the ranks of the Host of the Sun.

II There is another sacrifice with regard to which the Adepts have always maintained the most profound secrecy. It is the supreme mystery of practical Magick. Its name is the Formula of the Rosy Cross. In this case the victim is always — in a certain sense — the Magician himself, and the sacrifice must coincide with the utterance of the most sublime and secret name of the God whom he wishes to invoke.

Properly performed, it never fails of its effect. But it is difficult for the beginner to do it satisfactorily, because it is a great effort for the mind to remain concentrated upon the purpose of the ceremony. The overcoming of this difficulty lends most powerful aid to the Magician.

It is unwise for him to attempt it until he has received regular initiation in the true Order of the Rosy Cross, [97] and he must have taken the vows with the fullest comprehension and experience of their meaning. It is also extremely desirable that he should have attained an absolute degree of moral emancipation, and that purity of spirit which results from a perfect understanding both of the differences and harmonies of the planes upon the Tree of Life.


Notice the mentioning of the "Host of the Sun"

Black Sun (occult symbol)
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The term Black Sun (German Schwarze Sonne), also referred to as the Sonnenrad (the German for "Sun Wheel"), is a symbol of esoteric or occult significance. Its design bases on a sun wheel incorporated in a floor of Wewelsburg Castle during the NS era. Today, it may also be used in occult currents of Germanic neopaganism, and in Irminenschaft or Armanenschaft-inspired esotericism - but not necessarily in a racial or neo-Nazi context.

Nazis - The Occult Conspiracy
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Mars = Aries (god of war) ---> Martians = Aryans (Hitler's master race)
Venus = pentacle = Lucifer ----> Venusian = Luciferians



English language documentary regarding the occult influences and history of the Nazi Era, (pre, during and post) in Germany. New evidence has suggested that Nazism was not just a political movement but an occult religion with Hitler as the Messiah.


Operation Paperclip brought all these Nazi cultists to the USA and through Skull and Bones into the CIA
Bill Cooper - Mystery Babylon - the Skull and Bones
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This documentary from PrisonPlanet claims some of the early CIA recruiters were selected from the ranks of the Skull and Bones secret society (Bushes, John Kerry)
Bush Link to Kennedy Assassination Alex Jones 911 Conspiracy
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posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 05:24 PM
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Another interesting occurrence of 1947 (Aleister Crowley death, Roswell UFO, Operation Highjump)

This from another thread about Admiral Byrd and Operation Highjump
www.abovetopsecret.com...

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Operation Highjump
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Operation Highjump (OpHjp), officially titled The United States Navy Antarctic Developments Program, 1946-47, was a United States Navy operation organized by Rear Admiral Richard E. Byrd in Antarctica under the command of Richard Cruzen, which was launched on 26 August 1946 and ended abruptly in late February 1947, six months earlier than planned. The massive Antarctic task force included 4,700 men, 13 ships, and multiple aircraft.


Notice - The operation was abruptly stopped in 1947

Okay I guess this is just another "coincidence" and has nothing to do with all the other "UFO" activity.

Then you also have Freemasons performing masonic rituals on the moon (see Ishtar) during a mission dedicated to Apollo.

Ishtar
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"Woe to him whom Ishtar had honoured! The fickle goddess treated her passing lovers cruelly, and the unhappy wretches usually paid dearly for the favours heaped on them. Animals, enslaved by love, lost their native vigour: they fell into traps laid by men or were domesticated by them. 'Thou has loved the lion, mighty in strength', says the hero Gilgamesh to Ishtar, 'and thou hast dug for him seven and seven pits! Thou hast loved the steed, proud in battle, and destined him for the halter, the goad and the whip.'


Apollo
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Apollo (Attic, Ionic, and Homeric Greek: Ἀπόλλων, Apollōn (gen.: Ἀπόλλωνος); Doric: Ἀπέλλων, Apellōn; Arcadocypriot: Ἀπείλων, Apeilōn; Aeolic: Ἄπλουν, Aploun; Latin: Apollō) is one of the most important and diverse of the Olympian deities in Greek and Roman mythology. The ideal of the kouros (a beardless, athletic youth), Apollo has been variously recognized as a god of light and the sun, truth and prophecy, medicine, healing, plague, music, poetry, arts, archery and more. Apollo is the son of Zeus and Leto, and has a twin sister, the chaste huntress Artemis. Apollo is known in Greek-influenced Etruscan mythology as Apulu. Apollo was worshiped in both ancient Greek and Roman religion, and in the modern Greco–Roman Neopaganism.

As the patron of Delphi (Pythian Apollo), Apollo was an oracular god—the prophetic deity of the Delphic Oracle. Medicine and healing were associated with Apollo, whether through the god himself or mediated through his son Asclepius, yet Apollo was also seen as a god who could bring ill-health and deadly plague. Amongst the god's custodial charges, Apollo became associated with dominion over colonists, and as the patron defender of herds and flocks. As the leader of the Muses (Apollon Musegetes) and director of their choir, Apollo functioned as the patron god of music and poetry. Hermes created the lyre for him, and the instrument became a common attribute of Apollo. Hymns sung to Apollo were called paeans.

In Hellenistic times, especially during the 3rd century BCE, as Apollo Helios he became identified among Greeks with Helios, Titan god of the sun, and his sister Artemis similarly equated with Selene, Titan goddess of the moon.[1] In Latin texts, on the other hand, Joseph Fontenrose declared himself unable to find any conflation of Apollo with Sol among the Augustan poets of the 1st century, not even in the conjurations of Aeneas and Latinus in Aeneid XII (161–215).[2] Apollo and Helios/Sol remained separate beings in literary and mythological texts until the 3rd century CE


So there is essentially the same sun and moon worship of mystery Babylon, The Richard Hoagland video I linked to in the 1st page adds in the importance of the 33rd degree (parallels and Freemasonic) and the 19.47 degee (year 1947 and 19.47 degrees).
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posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 05:33 PM
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He was also involved with the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn
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The foundational documents of the original Order of the Golden Dawn are known as the Cipher Manuscripts; they were written in English using Trithemius cipher. The Manuscripts give the specific outlines of the Grade Rituals of the Order and prescribe a curriculum of graduated teachings that encompass the Hermetic Qabalah, astrology, occult tarot, geomancy, and alchemy.

According to the records of the Order, the manuscripts were passed from Kenneth Mackenzie, a Masonic scholar, to Rev. A.F.A. Woodford, whom British occult writer Francis King describes as the fourth founder[6] (although Woodford died shortly after the Order was founded).[7] The documents did not excite Woodford and in February 1886 he passed them on to Freemason William Wynn Westcott, who managed to decode them in 1887.[6] Westcott was pleased with his discovery and called on fellow Freemason Samuel Liddell MacGregor Mathers for a second opinion. Westcott asked for Mathers' help to turn the manuscripts into a coherent system for lodge work. Mathers in turn asked fellow Freemason William Robert Woodman to assist the two and he accepted.[6] Mathers and Westcott have been credited for developing the ritual outlines in the Cipher Manuscripts into a workable format.[8] Mathers, however, is generally credited with the design of the curriculum and rituals of the Second Order, which he called the Rosae Rubae et Aureae Crucis ("Ruby Rose and Golden Cross" or the RR et AC).[9]


Notable Members:
Allan Bennett (1872–1923), best known for introducing Buddhism to the West
William Butler Yeats (1865–1939), Irish poet, dramatist, and writer.
Arthur Edward Waite (1857–1942), British-American author, Freemason and co-creator of the Rider-Waite Tarot deck

Crowley was was not just surrounded by authors, he was one.
Moonchild
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A year or so before the beginning of World War I, a young woman named Lisa la Giuffria is seduced by a white magician, Cyril Grey, and persuaded into helping him in a magical battle with a black magician and his black lodge. Grey is attempting to raise the level of his force by impregnating the girl with the soul of an ethereal being — the moonchild. To achieve this, she will have to be kept in a secluded environment, and many preparatory magical rituals will be carried out. The black magician Douglas is bent on destroying Grey’s plan. However, Grey's ultimate motives may not be what they appear. The moonchild rituals are carried out in southern Italy, but the occult organizations are based in Paris and England. At the end of the book, the war breaks out, and the white magicians support the Allies, while the black magicians support the Central Powers.


Lady Gaga - Born This Way
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This video speaks for itself.

Crowley was also a secret agent for the Crown.

The author of 007 was also a secret agent,
and the original 007 was a Magician.
(Queen Elizabeth's Magician -John Dee www.youtube.com...)

Ian Fleming


Ian Lancaster Fleming (28 May 1908 – 12 August 1964) was a British author, journalist and Naval Intelligence Officer. Fleming is best known for creating the fictional British spy James Bond and for a series of twelve novels and nine short stories about the character, which are one of the best-selling series of related novels of all time having sold over 100 million copies worldwide.[1][2] Fleming also wrote the children's story Chitty Chitty Bang Bang and two works of non-fiction. Fleming is reputed to have been the designer of Operation Mincemeat and Operation Goldeneye, the former of which was successfully carried out during the Second World War.


MI5 insignia (pyramid all seeing eye)
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posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 05:34 PM
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GEORGE BUSH THE GRAND SON OF Aleister Crowley, the enemy aint saudi the enemy around me!



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 05:45 PM
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Many major American culture creators and inventors are declared followers of Crowley and the Book of the Law.

So what do you think? Did Crowley plan the 20th Century?

I will leave you with this excerpt from Thelema, the Book of the Law




CHAPTER XII

OF THE BLOODY SACRIFICE: AND MATTERS COGNATE

One last word on this subject. There is a Magical operation of maximum importance: the Initiation of a New Aeon. When it becomes necessary to utter a Word, the whole Planet must be bathed in blood. Before man is ready to accept the Law of Thelema, the Great War must be fought. This Bloody Sacrifice is the critical point of the World-[96]Ceremony of the Proclamation of Horus, the Crowned and conquering Child, as Lord of the Aeon.

This whole matter is prophesied in the Book of the Law itself; let the student take note, and enter the ranks of the Host of the Sun.

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And for the religious, this makes the whole story much more interesting:
The Arrivals
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This Series Explores the Revelations in World Religions Regarding the Arrivals of the Antichrist Dajjal, Imam Al-Mahdi, and The Second Coming of The Christ.
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posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 05:54 PM
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Crowley wasn't "wicked" at all, he just loved to spook the burgeoises (sp?) all around him, he called himself all sort of grandiose names to scandalize everyone, kinda like the Marquise de Sade...
He was actually a pretty smart man, before reading anything ABOUT him, read him... Pick up a copy of Liber 4, or some other book of his and give it a good, neutral read... It's not a LITERAL work, he speaks in symbols; the "bath of blood" it's actually a pretty nice metaphore and image...
And as for the people he "influenced", he influenced me, for all that matters, and I ain't going postal...
He wasn't the antichrist, he wasn't a "Seneschal of Lucifer" nor any other cheesy designation. Just a man.
A weirdo, maybe. But a man of flesh and bone.
I think Adam smith had a much more direct influence in the XXst century...

Good topic

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posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 05:55 PM
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did you just reference the uncyclopedia?



Or was there a more mundane explanation for the bizarre and disturbing events of his life? Was he b*&^%$#k insane? Or was he simply the Pastor of Muppets we all know and love?


jimm hensens uncyclopedia entry

I love the uncyclopedia Aleister Crowley ,uncyclopedia



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally written by Weirdo Crowley
The Great War must be fought.

This is a perfect example.
What do you people feel "The Great War" is?
How do you fight it?
What for?
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posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 06:29 PM
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Crowley and Blavatsky took truth and reflected it in opposite. This is the trick of magic and slight of mind. This is also Neuro Linguistic Programming (NLP) at its finest. Counterfeit truth cannot enter the mind unless it is wrapped in some truth. Crowley and Blavatsky (Ayn Rand as well) were masterminds of taking truth and untruth at the point of reflection, then wrapping it in counterfeit. All truth has an equal and opposite untruth. If the two are far enough apart, the reflection is immediately obvious. What Crowley and Blavatsky realized is the reflecting point. On the surface, their observations seemed correct. This is only because of their proximity to actual truth.

We now see this same deception taking place across society. The minds of men and women are being tricked as never before by using the mirror reflection of truth. As a result, our society seems to be completely upside down when it comes to decisions. Government is a good example.

This goes back to simple mathematics. In the past, a majority of men stood for positive (good). Any negative that arrived in society could be counteracted back to equilibrium by simply counteracting the negative with a positive. This works until a tipping point arrives. When negative gains an upper hand, positive must be turned into negative and multiplied (not added) against the negative to make a positive. Two negatives walk negative back to positive when we multiply like signs. After the tipping point is surpassed, it is much more difficult to counter the negative. This is why we are in debt up to our eyeballs in the world. Negatives and negatives are multiplied to benefit those who are transferring the debt to the people. Entertainers do not realize that they are the beneficiaries of this revenue to the determent of society. Debt must be paid unless forgiveness of debt is found.

The in thing these days is to follow this mirror image of truth and cling to negative. Take a look at the "Rain Man" idea in pop culture. The music industry has capitalized on negative images to push the culture to profiteering from the negative value. Negative and negative equals their positive if they can multiply the unwary consumer. Society is left holding the debt in the form of suffering and substance addiction (and many other adverse outcomes). If you are not familiar with what "Rain Man" represents, do some research. It is the idea of raining down wealth to others from the top down. This is trickle down economics by creating debt below. Suck debt and spread back down. The problem is, debt does not go away. It multiplies.

At the heart of this problem is satanism. There are evil spirits that gain power from the negative energy of man. God represents all that is positive in this world. We can only have a positive world when positives are added to positives. When negatives are multiplied, positive is created for one side of society and negative debt is left for the other side. As of today, we are nearly 15 trillion in debt to this system. The people will suffer while those using the system for evil reap the reward.

How does this all end? Simply follow the math. Man sins. This is a negative. Christ died to pay the price. This is another equal and opposite negative. Our debt is paid by Jesus death on the cross. Two negatives make a positive. Who pays in the end? THOSE LEFT WITH THE DEBT. That's right. Those who are currently reaping their reward now.

Matthew 6:5

"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.

2 John 1:8
Watch out that you do not lose what we have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully.

Hebrews 11:26
He regarded disgrace for the sake of Christ as of greater value than the treasures of Egypt, because he was looking ahead to his reward.

Matthew 6:16
[ Fasting ] “When you fast, do not look somber as the hypocrites do, for they disfigure their faces to show others they are fasting. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.

If you doubt what I am saying here, just read these verses where reward is mentioned in the Bible: LINK

You gotta love God. He's a genius. See this article for a clearer picture. LINK



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 07:47 PM
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You gotta love God. He's a genius. See this article for a clearer picture. LINK


He is and I do
that was fabulous post



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by SuperiorEd
 

Crowley and Blavatsky took truth and reflected it in opposite. This is the trick of magic and slight of mind. This is also Neuro Linguistic Programming (NLP) at its finest. Counterfeit truth cannot enter the mind unless it is wrapped in some truth.


So you agree Crowley had a major influence on 20th Century culture and politics. Magic over Mind over Matter.


We now see this same deception taking place across society. The minds of men and women are being tricked as never before by using the mirror reflection of truth.


I think that has been around for a long time but concede the 20th Century opened up a lot of new avenues.


Any negative that arrived in society could be counteracted back to equilibrium by simply counteracting the negative with a positive. Two negatives walk negative back to positive when we multiply like signs. This is why we are in debt up to our eyeballs in the world. Negatives and negatives are multiplied to benefit those who are transferring the debt to the people.


A 20th Century example is the War on Drugs where essentially government provides control over those drugs' flow. The controller provides the drugs then arrests the users and competing providers, extorting and profiting from them both. They sell the reality of "controlling" drug flow and do just that. The deception is operating this in a market they have declared illicit so your assumption would be that their motive is to stop the process when in reality it is to "control" it. Check, that same modus operandi is widely used in other endeavors as well. How do we combat it?


Debt must be paid unless forgiveness of debt is found.


So in summary, "Negatives and negatives are multiplied to benefit those who are transferring the debt to the people." Then when that mind-blow game is successful the people accumulate the debt for the deceptive practice and those debts are valid unless "forgiven", unless those debtors provide charity? Seems unlikely.


The in thing these days is to follow this mirror image of truth and cling to negative. Society is left holding the debt in the form of suffering and substance addiction (and many other adverse outcomes). The problem is, debt does not go away. It multiplies.


And the debt's interest is compounded? What then?


At the heart of this problem is satanism. There are evil spirits that gain power from the negative energy of man. God represents all that is positive in this world.


Back to Crowley again? God-Mysticism?


The people will suffer while those using the system for evil reap the reward.


Yep, that's about the way it works. The players play and the played pay. Solution?


How does this all end? Simply follow the math. Man sins. This is a negative. Christ died to pay the price. This is another equal and opposite negative. Our debt is paid by Jesus death on the cross. Two negatives make a positive. Who pays in the end? THOSE LEFT WITH THE DEBT. That's right. Those who are currently reaping their reward now.


More mysticism with a conjured double-negative whammy?? Give the debt back to the original players? Nice magic working if you can pull it off. How do the rewards/debt system work in this scheme? When's the pay-offs?


Matthew 6:5

"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.


So the players still get their loot, keep what they swindle. Uh-huh, and if you do your god spells correctly, i.e., toe the line, be good and kind, turn the other cheek, etc., you get YOUR REWARD in HEAVEN?!?


You gotta love God. He's a genius.


Yeah boy!


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posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 08:38 PM
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I have no idea what your post was about.

I gave you star just for confusing me.
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posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 09:13 PM
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So the players still get their loot, keep what they swindle. Uh-huh, and if you do your god spells correctly, i.e., toe the line, be good and kind, turn the other cheek, etc., you get YOUR REWARD in HEAVEN?!?

You gotta love God. He's a genius.


Yeah boy!


All mankind is under the yolk of sin. This is the burden in life. When Jesus was on earth, He was particularly critical of the Pharacies. They were the religious leaders that lorded over the law by taking power through rule. We can make the connection to truth from this using Hillel's Seven Rules for rightly dividing truth. Hillel was the Rabbi for Paul and Simeon in Jesus day. The first rule states this: The Kal vahomer rule says that what applies in a less important case will certainly apply in a more important case.

How do we connect this truth of controlling law to take power? If it is true for the Pharacies is true for religion and politics today. So, from this, we can correctly target the first group of final debtors. We would all agree that government and religious leaders should not abuse their power to gain more. This creates problems for people and does not reflect loving others as yourself.

As I stated before, we are all sinners. Pride separates us from God. Pride is what tells a person to steal for self instead of give to others. This is the key to understanding salvation. Luke 10 tells the story for us. Jesus was asked by an "expert in the law", "What must I do to gain eternal life." Jesus says, "you tell me expert." The expert says, "I must love God with my whole heart and I must love my neighbor." Jesus says that this is correct. "Do this and you live."

Jesus goes on to define the neighbor. The Samaritans and the Jews were enemies. A Jew fell on the path of life to robbers (those who take from others). The Samaritan (enemy of the Jew) stopped to help. Jesus considers enemies to be a neighbor.

Now, ask yourself this question? Who, out of these three groups, deserve salvation? The Jew who fell (Victim)? The Samaritan? The robbers?

I think we can all find the answer.

Jesus then says, "Go do likewise."

Philippians 2:12

12 Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, 13 for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose.

Positive purpose is the best to live by. That's pretty simple. God demand it from us. Does this make him evil? Not at all. It makes Him the friend to those who live the same rule. Do unto others.

Crowley: "Do what thou wilt."

Which do you choose as superior? Thelema or Jesus? Who has your best interests at heart?

Do you notice the mirror image I present? Truth in reflection. The difference, I present no counterfeit. Instead, I reveal what is truth and what is counterfeit. This makes it easy to decide if we are willing to remove the self in the equation.



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posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 09:36 PM
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The people will suffer while those using the system for evil reap the reward.


Yep, that's about the way it works. The players play and the played pay. Solution?


Solution? Yes. It's an easy solution and will set a person free by knowing the truth. God is real. Jesus is real. They are one. Evidence is here. LINK And here. LINK And here. LINK

The solution is simple. Love others as you expect to be loved. Don't do to others what you wouldn't do to yourself. If you go out on a journey to hit someone with a stick, try it on yourself first. Jesus / Confucius / Liu Tao

This, however, is only works. Works do not get you to God. To get to God, you must gain union with God. This is spirit union. When you are born, you come out of a womb. This happened because two people fell in love and gained union. The sperm and egg created you in the womb. Once born into the womb, "you must be born again." Jesus words in John 3. Jesus also reveals that you can be born into the water of the material world or into the spirit of the next realm. This implies something: The earth is a womb and your body is your placenta. I know this is slightly too literal but it applies. You are developing here in this life. If you find love for God ( His spirit within you), then you gain union with the spirit in atonement. AT ONE MENT. This is, Jesus has atoned for your sin. You are at one with the spirit. Union is gained and you transpose the material for the spirit world. God's love covers your sin and cancels it. Negative multiplied by negative. This is forgiveness of debt.

As evidence of this, you will naturally see others in love, as God sees others. You will love others as yourself. You will see God as one of the others in equality.

Simple.






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