FLT 93 The Second Debris Field, page 1


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Topic started on 7-9-2011 @ 05:07 PM by waypastvne

The Second Debris Field



The second debris field at shanksville has been brought up many times lately , I decided turn this into a thread of it's own, so it doesn't just get lost on page 10 of some other thread. This is my evidence, show me yours.
No I don't want your opinion, I want your evidence.

The town of New Baltimore is located 8 miles south east of the crash site. IT WAS STRAIGHT DOWN WIND OF THE CRASH SITE on sept 11. This is the furthest distance that debris was collected.



Most of the debris collected in New Baltimore was found in the back yard of this church by a grounds keeper and collected by Melanie Hankinson.



Melanie Hankinson.
"The village of New Baltimore is a dozen or more miles by automobile but eight as the wind blows, which it was doing a year ago. Melanie Hankinson was at the church next to her home, transfixed before a television that showed the World Trade Center ablaze, when the man who sprays her lawn stopped by to tell her he was finding odd things in the weeds.

"He said there was a loud bang and smoke and then these papers started blowing through your yard," she said. "I said, 'Oh.' Then I went back to the TV." Then the parish priest, the Rev. Allen Zeth, told her an airplane had crashed in Shanksville.

For the next few hours, Hankinson gathered charred pages of in-flight magazines, papers from a pilot's manual -- she remembers a map showing the Guadalajara, Mexico, airport -- and copies of stock portfolio monthly earnings reports.

"And there was some black webbing -- a lot of people found that," she said. The webbing, flexible where it hadn't burned, crisp where it had, was from insulation lining the belly of the jetliner."


What she is describing in those last two sentences is carbon fiber. The resin in carbon fiber is flammable, the carbon fiber is not. When it burns, the resin disappears and only the cloth is left. She just has the burnt and unburnt backwards.

The debris that she collected is spread out on the kitchen table in this photo.



A payroll check was also found outside the home of Andy Stoe. What is seen in these two photos is the total debris collected from New Baltimore. Yes, this is what all the fuss is about.



Also located down wind of the crash site is the Indian Lake Marina. It's 2.4 miles from the crater.



If you look at the top photo in this post you will see the yellow line passes directly over the marina. Both are directly inline with the wind.



The majority of debris collected at Indian Lake was also paper and carbon fiber.

quote John Fleegle
By Wednesday morning, crash debris began washing ashore at the marina. Fleegle said there was something that looked like a rib bone amid pieces of seats, small chunks of melted plastic and checks


The rib bone turned out not to be human.

John Fleegle collecting fragments of carbon fiber.



The parts of a Boeing 757 made from composites are the external skins of the rudder, vertical stabiliser, elevator, horizontal stabiliser, ailerons, flaps, slats, wing fairing, gear doors, nose cone, and floor.
If you are looking for the tail of the plane you should be looking for something like this.



Carbon fiber with honeycomb still attached.



So how did this debris travel so far. It was carried by this cloud. When the mushroom cloud rose up it carried the debris with it. The position of the cloud in this photo is just past Indian Lake and on its way to New Baltimore.



Video of a thermal going through a camp site for those of you who say air can't pick things up and carry them off.



reply posted on 7-9-2011 @ 07:02 PM by Blaze090
reply to post by smurfy


New Baltimore is roughly 6-8 miles and Indian Lake is about 1-2 miles from Shanksville.. The wind speed on the morning of September 11th in that area was 9-10 mph gusting at times to 29 mph.




a man named Bob Pile......recalled "what seemed like buckets of gravel" hitting the roof of his house on the morning of 9-11 around the time of Flight 93's reported impact. Bob says his home is one mile away from the crash site. He thinks it is very odd that gravel would reach his home over that distance, and had no explanation as to how this might have happened. We asked him how an airplane as large as Flight 93 could fit into a hole of such significantly smaller dimensions and showed him a representative diagram of the plane and crater dimensions, and he shook his head, unable to reconcile the disparity in dimensions.




Charles McCauley chimed in at this point. McCauley described the debris he'd recovered from his property - black seat backings that the FBI identified as coming from Flight 93. Charles had no idea how these pieces of plane seats could have made their way the few miles to his house. McCauley, like many others, turned this debris over to the FBI. Both Pile and McCauley described lots of paper, parts of magazines, some solid matter (pieces of seats and metal) and checks carried by the wind in the days following 9-11, all of which was determined by the FBI to be from Flight 93.



reply posted on 8-9-2011 @ 08:31 AM by Amaterasu
reply to post by waypastvne


I wonder why a paycheck belonging to someone who was not on the flight was (presumably) on the flight. No explanation as to WHY this was the case, I presume.

Pretty weird, but plausible, I guess.


reply posted on 8-9-2011 @ 11:02 AM by smurfy
reply to post by GenRadek


I never mentioned explosions or missiles, I mentioned fire. As far as no debris along the flightpath, I take it you mean no debris was found.

I'm open to speculation, even more as we get up to date,

www.newsmax.com...

So what we have is GW Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld, the former two saying they gave the order to shoot down ANY plane, and the latter saying that a 'plane was shot down, so how many gaffs do we have to troll through to get the true story, whatever that was, and how credulous are we expected to be, to believe anything official from 9/11.
Now, on the run-up to 9/11, we have 'New tapes' of air hostesses on the hi-jacked 'planes, new tapes..ten years on WTF, keep this up and 9/11 will turn into another Roswell.
edit on 8-9-2011 by smurfy because: Text.

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