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posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by Warpthal
reply to post by MischeviousElf
 

Are you going to do anything about this? If not, your wasting your energy.


He already did. He gave them free promotion and brought those pictures of that little girl dressed like that to an even bigger audience. I would say job done.




posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
How is this hurting this girl?


How is this benefiting or aiding the girl ?

Isn't that the more relevant and pertinent question which everybody should be asking ?

I guess not. Backwards is really forwards, and up is really down.

As long as every adult has the ''raaaght'' in the ''Carnstatooshun'' to exploit and abuse their child in the USA, then everything is hunky-dory, I suppose. $$$


Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I don't agree with pageants for little girls. But there's a lot of things I don't agree with about how parents are parenting today. But this one instance is being blown entirely out of proportion, IMO.


Beauty pageants for young children are disgusting, and, yeah, this example isn't that aberrant in the overall scale of the creepy objectification of children that occurs in the US, but I am genuinely stunned that a show such as this is actually being shown on TV.

Crazy days.


Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
People need to get a life of their own so they can get their noses out of other people's!


Behave yourself.

Parents who neglect the necessities, responsibilities and obligations which they are expected to provide for their offspring, become everyone's business.

Once again, Children are not the property of their parents.


A child is an individual human being; not an extension of a parent's ego.

Children are the property of the society which they are born in to, and if some ''parents'' can't raise them properly, then society will, correctly, step in to make sure that these young, impressionable minds are raised in a healthy environment, far away from their ''parents''.

You're even trying to twist this subject into a ''mind your own business'' issue, and shamelessly exploiting the populist, ''mah rights - yeehaw'' mentality which is all too pervasive on ATS.

Poor show.


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posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by balanc3
Softcore child porn is what the producers are getting away with.


Just one example of softcore child porn from that show would go a long way to bring hyperbole back to Earth. Have anything like that or just talking?



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 07:41 PM
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Originally posted by Screwed
We live in a sick F ing world with sick F ing people.


Many of whom are in this thread.
I see a little girl in a crappy wig and little outfit having a good time at a pagent doing nothing harmful or wrong.
Many of you see porn and sex.

That is pretty F ing sick if you ask me. Why are so many of you thinking about sex when you look at these kids all the time?



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
How is this hurting this girl?


How is this benefiting or aiding the girl ?

Isn't that the more relevant and pertinent question which everybody should be asking ?


Not really. Is everything supposed to benefit the child in some way other than her simply enjoying herself? Are kids not allowed to just have fun? Unless you can explain what the harm is, answering with your question makes it sound like you think she should be in a coal mine being productive and saving for her college education instead of ever just playing.

Kids like to play. It does not always offer them some grand benefit to do so. That is the best part of being a kid.



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 07:46 PM
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Is that what you see? I see women living vicariously through their WAY too young children. I think both are disgusting.



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid
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Is that what you see? I see women living vicariously through their WAY too young children. I think both are disgusting.



Really? I did not see any women at all in the pics I looked at.



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by Kitilani
Really? I did not see any women at all in the pics I looked at.


Oh, it was just Daddy that allowed this to happen.



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by Kitilani
Really? I did not see any women at all in the pics I looked at.


Oh, it was just Daddy that allowed this to happen.


I do not see a daddy either.
Which pictures are you looking at?



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 07:51 PM
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You DO know that an under aged child has to have parental acceptance for anyone to film them, right?



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid
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You DO know that an under aged child has to have parental acceptance for anyone to film them, right?



Sure do. That does not make people and intention magically appear in photographs.
Please show me the pictures you are talking about because I quite clearly said what I SEE.

Is it the word "see" that is throwing you all off?



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 07:56 PM
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Don't be obtuse. It's insulting. To parents that wouldn't even consider this sort of thing. Get real. Why are there task forces that combat kiddie porn? It's there. If a parent can't see that, they don't deserve to be parents.

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posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by Kitilani

Kids like to play. It does not always offer them some grand benefit to do so. That is the best part of being a kid.


Yes because this little 3 year old girl out of nowhere watched that movie and said "hey mommy! I want to be her"

And to imply that other people are pedophiles because they think this type of behaviour will attract predators is nonsense and obnoxious.

That's like you accusing me of being a murderer because I warn my child not to play on the streets by themselves at night.

Please...


I don't even think these parents are terrible people, I think some of them are living in a box, so immersed in this type of lifestyle that they don't see the bigger picture. In this day and age of all types of child exploitation and sexualisation, as a parent, I don't think it's a very smart way to go about raising a child. However, that is my personal opinion.
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posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid
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Don't be obtuse. It's insulting.


Do not twist my words in order to just argue with me about something I never said. I stated what I SEE IN THE PICTURES. Why you have a problem with what I see in those pictures is way beyond me.

To parents that wouldn't even consider this sort of thing. Get real. Why are there task forces that combat kiddie porn? It's there. If a parent can't see that, they don't deserve to be parents.

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Ah porn again. Show me the porn this has anything to do with or stop throwing that word around. You really seem to just want to argue about unrelated random things.
I am free to say what I SEE IN PHOTOS and you have no real reason to correct me unless I am actually wrong.





No mommy. No daddy. Just a little girl in those pictures. I think it is great that you can look at those pictures and see her parents intentions. I just see what the camera caught. You must be pretty special.



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 08:01 PM
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It is fitting that the child is dressed as a prostitute, because that is how the parents see their child.
You exploit your child, teach them to exploit themselves.
Pretty simple really. Disgusting? Yes, of course.



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 08:02 PM
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I notice the MEN and WOMAN, in the final shot seem to be laughing, i hope, in embaressment more than anything, noticing maybe things have gone a little to far?



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 08:05 PM
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Originally posted by seeker11
Yes because this little 3 year old girl out of nowhere watched that movie and said "hey mommy! I want to be her"


You mean you know for a fact that did not happen? I mean, I never said it did but that is because I have no way of knowing. How do you have this inside information? Just last week my 4 year old niece said she wanted to look like Lady Gaga. Please tell me how you come by this information.


And to imply that other people are pedophiles because they think this type of behaviour will attract predators is nonsense and obnoxious.


Probably so and since I never did any such thing I am not sure why you are telling me about it. Your entire sentence is off by about 100%


That's like you accusing me of being a murderer because I warn my child not to play on the streets by themselves at night.

Please...


Sure, if that had been what I suggested at all it probably would be. Fun to argue about crap you just made up.


I don't even think these parents are terrible people, I think some of them are living in a box, so immersed in this type of lifestyle that they don't see the bigger picture. In this day and age of all types of child exploitation and sexualisation, as a parent, I don't think it's a very smart way to go about raising a child. However, that is my personal opinion.
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Well you are entitled to your opinion. So are the girls parents. So when are you going to go take that child from them?



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 08:09 PM
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I'm a parent of 3 kids, for over 20 years. If you WON'T see what's wrong here my words are meaningless. I just hope you don't have kids.



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid
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I'm a parent of 3 kids, for over 20 years. If you WON'T see what's wrong here my words are meaningless. I just hope you don't have kids.



I do not know what the hell you are even talking about. I never said this was great. I said what I see in the pictures and you told me I was wrong. I am still waiting for you to point out in those pictures where mom and her intentions are.

I am not sure what the problem is here but you are wasting a lot of energy arguing with me because of what I said I see in those pictures and I was 100% correct about what is in those photos. You want to move on to your next random argument, finish that one first.

You are going way out of your way to assume a lot and argue against your assumptions. Try actually reading the words I use and see if it works out better for you.

Specifically why do you hope I do not have kids?
That is quite a personal little dig and I am guessing you have really good reason for tossing it out there.
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posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid
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I'm a parent of 3 kids, for over 20 years. If you WON'T see what's wrong here my words are meaningless. I just hope you don't have kids.


He doesnt, he care'nt do, or he would.





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