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Originally posted by Swanfilters
The act of subverting the power of parliament through allowing foreign bodies and foreign parliaments to control legal matters in the UK is TREASON. Those who allowed these crimes to take place are TRAITORS. You are a nonsense.
If treaties are to be rewritten that will have to be done by the agreement of all parties and Cameron has made it clear what price he will want for any changes.
Originally posted by timeless test
Originally posted by Swanfilters
The act of subverting the power of parliament through allowing foreign bodies and foreign parliaments to control legal matters in the UK is TREASON. Those who allowed these crimes to take place are TRAITORS. You are a nonsense.
That's a tad simplistic. On that basis it would be a treason to sign up with the UN, NATO, ECHR and the Red Cross as well.
The laws you object to were enacted passed by using the legitimate powers of Parliament.
Originally posted by RogerT
reply to post by Swanfilters
Ouch. Posts like this make me cringe that I carry a British Passport. Sorry rest of the world and especially Germans for those sentiments!
Originally posted by thoughtsfull
to say the system is broken is a bit of an understatement.
Originally posted by EvanB
This is why the 3 party system must go.
Originally posted by timeless test
Originally posted by thoughtsfull
to say the system is broken is a bit of an understatement.
There you go, I knew there'd be something we could agree about.
Originally posted by Swanfilters
Originally posted by RogerT
reply to post by Swanfilters
Ouch. Posts like this make me cringe that I carry a British Passport. Sorry rest of the world and especially Germans for those sentiments!
Then give it up. Nobody will miss you. Make sure you recycle it, though; otherwise our masters in Brussels will impose a fine on you for not submitting to their lies about climate change.
I'm not sorry, not even in the slightest. I hope my comments do offend the Germans, It wasn't even the start of it though. We could and should have left them to the mercy of the USSR and all the other countries their vile nation raped, burned and massacred.edit on 7-9-2011 by Swanfilters because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by OwenGP185
Originally posted by Swanfilters
Originally posted by RogerT
reply to post by Swanfilters
Ouch. Posts like this make me cringe that I carry a British Passport. Sorry rest of the world and especially Germans for those sentiments!
Then give it up. Nobody will miss you. Make sure you recycle it, though; otherwise our masters in Brussels will impose a fine on you for not submitting to their lies about climate change.
I'm not sorry, not even in the slightest. I hope my comments do offend the Germans, It wasn't even the start of it though. We could and should have left them to the mercy of the USSR and all the other countries their vile nation raped, burned and massacred.edit on 7-9-2011 by Swanfilters because: (no reason given)
You talk as if England did(do) not do those same things to other countries.
Originally posted by Swanfilters
Originally posted by OwenGP185
Originally posted by Swanfilters
Originally posted by RogerT
reply to post by Swanfilters
Ouch. Posts like this make me cringe that I carry a British Passport. Sorry rest of the world and especially Germans for those sentiments!
Then give it up. Nobody will miss you. Make sure you recycle it, though; otherwise our masters in Brussels will impose a fine on you for not submitting to their lies about climate change.
I'm not sorry, not even in the slightest. I hope my comments do offend the Germans, It wasn't even the start of it though. We could and should have left them to the mercy of the USSR and all the other countries their vile nation raped, burned and massacred.edit on 7-9-2011 by Swanfilters because: (no reason given)
You talk as if England did(do) not do those same things to other countries.
The common response from the brainwashed liberal. The empire was the greatest thing to happen to Earth. We brought culture, civilisation, technology and a common language to the world. The worlds most successful, stable nations in the 21st century were all British Colonies.
Originally posted by OwenGP185
I am not a liberal, I am a human and do not feel any need to sign myself up to an imaginary brand to know what I should and should not believe. That said I agree being in a British empire did actually keep a lot of nations stable however it was not perfect by any means, in fact it was all the things you are saying is important that was taken from those nations. Being proud of an Empire yet you are saying how bad it would be to become part of an EU empire is illogical. I sounds as though being an empire is good only as long as it’s to the other nations expense?
Originally posted by OwenGP185
Not to mention you say they "brought culture", this poses a question. Have you ever complained about foreigners coming over here and replacing our culture? Maybe the whole world should speak English, follow Christianity but how dare they bring their foreign languages, religion and beliefs. Just remember that Hitler’s empire could have brought stability and wealth to many countries, yet rightfully we fought against it.
Originally posted by Swanfilters
Originally posted by OwenGP185
I am not a liberal, I am a human and do not feel any need to sign myself up to an imaginary brand to know what I should and should not believe. That said I agree being in a British empire did actually keep a lot of nations stable however it was not perfect by any means, in fact it was all the things you are saying is important that was taken from those nations. Being proud of an Empire yet you are saying how bad it would be to become part of an EU empire is illogical. I sounds as though being an empire is good only as long as it’s to the other nations expense?
You absolutely cannot try and claim that being proud of the British Empire is the same as the EU. The EU is a foreign body, seeking to complete Hitler's ideals of a unified Europe under German control. They are totally distinct and different.
Is an empire good only at other peoples' expenses? Absolutely. It generated us great deals of money, gave us access to lucrative natural reserves like oil, coal, precious metals and stones and advanced our ideals of democracy.
Originally posted by OwenGP185
Not to mention you say they "brought culture", this poses a question. Have you ever complained about foreigners coming over here and replacing our culture? Maybe the whole world should speak English, follow Christianity but how dare they bring their foreign languages, religion and beliefs. Just remember that Hitler’s empire could have brought stability and wealth to many countries, yet rightfully we fought against it.
The Fourth Reich has bankrupted Greece, is close to bankrupting Portugal, Spain, Ireland and now Italy is on the rocks. Any nation that has taken on the Euro, is now suffering because of Germany.
But Owen, it didn't bring any of those things, it brought great misery and suffering, mass murder and cruelty. At least we had respect for our Colonials.
Originally posted by EvanB
Well well well Mr Cameron
Now do we, the British people get a vote on this or are you going to steam roller us into a federal europe?
It seems this is going to happen whether we like it or not.
Over 80% of the British people actually want out of the EU altogether, however the politicos will not give us a referendum because they know what the answer would be and it would end their gravy train.
I want a referendum. I do not want to be in the EU but want to keep the trade aspect. I do not believe the scare stories that the talking heads propergate on the dangers of us leaving. They need us as much as we need them.
Signing us up to a federal superstate without our permission is an un paralelled act of treason akin to, no much worse than, gordan browns great gold bullion robbery.
If on a referendum the country votes to join then thats ok, but if they rail road us then they should all be burnt at the stake!
www.dailymail.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)edit on 7-9-2011 by EvanB because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by malcr
Originally posted by EvanB
Well well well Mr Cameron
Now do we, the British people get a vote on this or are you going to steam roller us into a federal europe?
It seems this is going to happen whether we like it or not.
It is inevitable that the world amalgamates in larger economic blocks. When companies become bigger than countries then countries then its time to merge countries. If you don't then iceland,greece, ireland etc will happen to the rest of us whilst the bankers sit there and smile.
Over 80% of the British people actually want out of the EU altogether, however the politicos will not give us a referendum because they know what the answer would be and it would end their gravy train.
It's 49%. Do NOT exaggerate to make your point.
I want a referendum. I do not want to be in the EU but want to keep the trade aspect. I do not believe the scare stories that the talking heads propergate on the dangers of us leaving. They need us as much as we need them.
Dream on. There is no way in hell we will keep the trade if we pull out. It won't be instant but it would happen. It would be catastrophic for many British companies.
Signing us up to a federal superstate without our permission is an un paralelled act of treason akin to, no much worse than, gordan browns great gold bullion robbery.
If on a referendum the country votes to join then thats ok, but if they rail road us then they should all be burnt at the stake!
Ah, that's nice an reasoned. I suggest you take some medication and calm down.
www.dailymail.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)edit on 7-9-2011 by EvanB because: (no reason given)
By no stretch of the imagination do I support Cameron politically but the lack of political foresight by the anti europeans needs confronting.
Angus Reid poll, 6 December 2010: 48% of Britons would vote in favour of pulling out of the EU. A new Angus Reid poll shows that, in the event of a referendum on the UK's EU membership, 48% of Britons would vote in favour of leaving the EU and 27% would vote to stay in. The results also indicate that 42% of Lib Dem voters and 36% of Labour voters would now vote for the UK to pull out. The poll found that 80% would vote in favour of keeping the pound. that 80% would vote in favour of keeping the pound