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Rick Perry cut Texas firefighting budget by 75% in March and now Texas burns

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posted on Sep, 8 2011 @ 12:40 AM
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Slash all govt jobs by 70%?

Ohh that will help the economy! Yes! Less people putting money into the market place... would cause more businesses to come up short and fail ... and ..
Ok well it would be less payroll taxes being paid ... to correct the deficit..
Hmm..

You sure you have thought this out?

On the other hand you can be guaranteed 70% fewer military men to protect us..
70% fewer national guard..

maybe you haven't thought this out very well..

Ok, hop back on the short bus.




posted on Sep, 8 2011 @ 12:43 AM
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Hi OP and All,
Any of u people who are suffering within your USA semi-depression should be concerned further. In that Perry or any Republican enters the White House. # people, Didn't you notice Bush2 and his 6.2 Trillion actions??

Decoy



posted on Sep, 8 2011 @ 12:46 AM
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Originally posted by WhiteDevil013
Hmmm, let me think.....

A politician who actually slashed spending??!?!? Wow, and thats a bad thing because somehow he must have predicted that there would be horrible fires.



Yes, he should have known Texas is prone to wild fires. He lives there, doesn't he? People losing property and lives to fires that could be curbed otherwise is obviously of less importance than cutting spending for emergency rescue. Thing is, how is this any different from rationing of health care that the republicans keep on fear mongering about? After all, less firemen means less saved lives and property(btw, your party lied. never was health care planned to be rationed).



posted on Sep, 8 2011 @ 12:47 AM
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Originally posted by Decoy
Hi OP and All,
Any of u people who are suffering within your USA semi-depression should be concerned further. In that Perry or any Republican enters the White House. # people, Didn't you notice Bush2 and his 6.2 Trillion actions??

Decoy


We are well aware of this. Well.. most of us.



posted on Sep, 8 2011 @ 12:54 AM
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A politician who actually slashed spending??!?!? Wow, and thats a bad thing because somehow he must have predicted that there would be horrible fires.

Endless drought: Not since the 1950s has Texas been so dry


Yep - since he governs the state he probably should have known this.

itemonline.com...



posted on Sep, 8 2011 @ 01:13 AM
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This thread is an example of why this site has gone to #.

Care to elaborate with some actual wisdom/facts/info or is this just a drive-by insult?



posted on Sep, 8 2011 @ 01:27 AM
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Last time I checked, FEMA funds are not really life saving. If your house burns down and you can file a claim, then you are probably alive.

Looking at how Texas votes, the majority of this state should not apply.



posted on Sep, 8 2011 @ 01:38 AM
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Here is how Ken Layne put it- most succinct take on the matter I have yet seen in print:





UNMANAGED DECLINE

Texas Lawmakers Notice Wildfires, Slash Funding To Firefighters



Some teabagger Republicans in the Texas legislature noticed on Newsmax or whatever that Texas is currently on fire, the whole state. And then they heard something about firefighters apparently trying to fight these catastrophic fires, which is communistic, so the Texas Forest Service will have its current low budget slashed by another third — $34 million — to teach everybody a lesson about “relying on socialist fire departments when JESUS wants your #ty tract house to burn down.”

Continued at wonkette.com...

I really can't help but think the Republicans are Suiciding this Nation until a black man is no longer at the helm. They have all but said it out loud.



posted on Sep, 8 2011 @ 08:44 AM
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It's unreal to me that the wildfires have become a political issue here on ATS. Every resource available should be sent to put the fires out and help those people. With the horrible drought that's been going on there, it was only a matter of time before something like this was going to happen. Now, here on ATS, it's become a bash-Perry fest! RIDICULOUS! Everyone and every resource available should just be sent there to get them put out, as decent human beings would do. If you can, get out from behind your computers and help, don't just sit there and bash! GEEZ!



posted on Sep, 8 2011 @ 09:58 AM
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S&F


HMMM...
HMMM...

You mea.......

Hmm...

A dry arid place needs firefighters? Why? I don't get it...That can't be.

Next we will have have Colorado get rid of snow plowing services-have 30,000 trapped for six months.
Meanwhile the Governor's house is safe and sound. The world is reverting back-way back, to when things were out of control.



posted on Sep, 8 2011 @ 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by Alxandro
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I'm just wondering why all the Texas haters from years gone past are suddenly overly concerned for the great state?

Any ideas why?


Texas haters? ahhh...That's right, I forgot! The politics of division...real America?

I don't think most rational folks "Hate Texas"....I think most folks have a disdain for the less than intelligent, neo-conservative, often corrupt, politicians that it spawns. Pres. Bush and his mini-me Rick Perry seem to be the most recent examples.

Pssst...most folks don't "Hate Alaska" either just because sarah Palin calls it home.



posted on Sep, 8 2011 @ 10:42 AM
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I am no Rick Perry fan, mainly because he is a fake Conservative that talks a big time small government game but his actions don't back that up. Anyway, as long as a state is forced to pay the ridiculous amount of federal taxes they can complain about FEMA and demand their services all they want.



posted on Sep, 8 2011 @ 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by Partygirl
Come on what are you people, a bunch of Comm'nists? Sheesh. Everyone knows the Efficient Market™ can handle all problems. So if your house is burning down, why not simply summon a private firefighter? If they can't get to your house in time and it burns down, the Efficient Market™ will punish them, so of course there is incentive to be more on the ball then ever. And if you can't hack it in the negotiations, haggling on your smouldering lawn for nickles and dimes while your world goes up in smoke behind you, then you aren't a good entrepreneur and you get what you deserve!!!


So true, everyone knows their Local Protection Racket™ is much better suited to taking people's money without permission (some call that stealing... others "government charity") and then giving the Local Protection Racket™ "customers" services they never asked for, at prices that shock them, while keeping most of the money for them self. That is just soooo much better.

Partygirl, the fact is the market does handle these things extremely well. Sorry you refuse to look at the facts. We can actually make pretty good comparisons. For example. Certain elements of the medical industry are privately paid for, while certain ones are public. Privately controlled parts of the medical include Laser eye surgery and cosmetic surgery. So, what do we find out about eye surgery:
- Prices going down
- Quality seems to be going up
So, what do we find out about most of the medical procedures:
- Prices going up
- Quality stagnant

So, do you have any examples to offer of the market failing where government succeeds?

What you provided an example of is Rick Perry saying "oh we'll still have government fire protection, but we're going to have bad service". Sorry, that is not a private sector being *replaced* by the market. Rather, that is Rick Perry sending out confusing signals about whether or not people will actually have fire protection. That is not an example of the free market. That is an example of a crappy government system.
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posted on Sep, 8 2011 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX
Clearly this is just liberals with matches trying to embarass Perry!




Talk about egg on your face. Anyhow, let texas burn...really...what are we supposed to do about it, bring in feds with choppers to douse the fires? texas hates the fed and all that liberal water they could pour on the fires...

make the bed...lie in it.


Well I don't know if they are intentionally trying to embarass Perry but given what we saw in Wisconsin, the aftermath of the government protests, Libs do like to litter.
www.theblaze.com...

..but if it's not the Libs, then maybe it's Global Warming?
After all this was this was a pretty hot Texas summer.



posted on Sep, 8 2011 @ 05:10 PM
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well well well, just as I suspected.

via MoonBattery.com As Texas Burns, Firefighting Aircraft Grounded by Feds



Nearly half of the federal government’s firefighting air tankers are siting idle at a California airport, grounded by the Obama administration in a contract dispute just weeks before wildfires swept through Texas killing a mother and her child, and destroying 100,000 acres.

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The U.S. Forest Service terminated the contract with Aero Union​ five weeks ago to operate seven P-3 Orions that are critical to the agency’s firefighting mission, leaving the federal government with 11 tankers under contract to help battle more than 50 large uncontained wildfires now burning nationwide.

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In a letter to the administration questioning the canceled contracts that was obtained by HUMAN EVENTS, Lungren said the aircraft “are some of the best available for fighting fires in the United States.”


Actual letter sent to USDA

Source: HumanEvents.com



posted on Sep, 8 2011 @ 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by Alxandro
well well well, just as I suspected.

via MoonBattery.com As Texas Burns, Firefighting Aircraft Grounded by Feds



Nearly half of the federal government’s firefighting air tankers are siting idle at a California airport, grounded by the Obama administration in a contract dispute just weeks before wildfires swept through Texas killing a mother and her child, and destroying 100,000 acres.

...

The U.S. Forest Service terminated the contract with Aero Union​ five weeks ago to operate seven P-3 Orions that are critical to the agency’s firefighting mission, leaving the federal government with 11 tankers under contract to help battle more than 50 large uncontained wildfires now burning nationwide.

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In a letter to the administration questioning the canceled contracts that was obtained by HUMAN EVENTS, Lungren said the aircraft “are some of the best available for fighting fires in the United States.”


Actual letter sent to USDA

Source: HumanEvents.com


I thought the great state doesn't need help from the FEDS?

Those Planes are socialist anyways, they aren't bringing me water, yet I have to pay for it?


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