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Originally posted by samcrow
Originally posted by jjf3rd77We NEED to invest in Technology. Not roads and bridges!!!! Technology will be around for much longer than those roads and bridges.
You can't outsource construction jobs. You can damn sure outsource non-service/repair technology jobs. Where was your TV made? Your iPod? Your computer? Your watch? Your cell phone?
Originally posted by OldCorp
They should just take the $300 Billion and cut each American a check for $1,000. I don't know about anyone else, but $5,000 sure would stimulate MY economy. That money of course, would go right back into the local and national economy buying goods and services, further stimulating everyone else's personal economy.
Makes sense to me.
Originally posted by jjf3rd77
Originally posted by samcrow
Originally posted by jjf3rd77We NEED to invest in Technology. Not roads and bridges!!!! Technology will be around for much longer than those roads and bridges.
You can't outsource construction jobs. You can damn sure outsource non-service/repair technology jobs. Where was your TV made? Your iPod? Your computer? Your watch? Your cell phone?
Haha I love how you contradict yourself. Building technology in factories is the same process as building a building. They are still assembly line jobs and they don't exist anymore! in America. You can't outsource construction jobs huh?
What about this? www.telegraph.co.uk...
Anyway I'm not talking about building electronics in factories, I'm talking about teaching people how to program and write code and understand computers. The majority of the population still doesn't know how to do these things, and once they realize its the future, then we will begin to see businesses pop up around the internet again. The major growth fields today is computer systems and IT. We need people trained in this stuff badly because the pundits in Washington fail horribly when it comes to anything tech. They don't understand that somebody aka China can hack most US website with ease. There is a small start up boom happening already and yet, I have been offered quite a few computer jobs after school but I always here construction workers out of working or bouncing around jobs. Hmmmm....
Originally posted by Janky Red
Originally posted by OldCorp
They should just take the $300 Billion and cut each American a check for $1,000. I don't know about anyone else, but $5,000 sure would stimulate MY economy. That money of course, would go right back into the local and national economy buying goods and services, further stimulating everyone else's personal economy.
Makes sense to me.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THIS ONE!
Winner Instant stimulus
Originally posted by samcrow
Originally posted by jjf3rd77
Originally posted by samcrow
Originally posted by jjf3rd77We NEED to invest in Technology. Not roads and bridges!!!! Technology will be around for much longer than those roads and bridges.
You can't outsource construction jobs. You can damn sure outsource non-service/repair technology jobs. Where was your TV made? Your iPod? Your computer? Your watch? Your cell phone?
Haha I love how you contradict yourself. Building technology in factories is the same process as building a building. They are still assembly line jobs and they don't exist anymore! in America. You can't outsource construction jobs huh?
What about this? www.telegraph.co.uk...
Anyway I'm not talking about building electronics in factories, I'm talking about teaching people how to program and write code and understand computers. The majority of the population still doesn't know how to do these things, and once they realize its the future, then we will begin to see businesses pop up around the internet again. The major growth fields today is computer systems and IT. We need people trained in this stuff badly because the pundits in Washington fail horribly when it comes to anything tech. They don't understand that somebody aka China can hack most US website with ease. There is a small start up boom happening already and yet, I have been offered quite a few computer jobs after school but I always here construction workers out of working or bouncing around jobs. Hmmmm....
Have you ever worked a construction job? Or a factory job? The process may be 'similar,' but you can't build a road or a 50 story building in China and ship it to the United States completed. Your own example, the bridge, still has to be put together in the United States, so you've summarily defeated your own argument before you got started.
The issue isn't that people don't know how to program computers, the issue is that the labor force is exponentially more costly to utilize in the United States than elsewhere. That's why the big manufacturing jobs are elsewhere. That's why anything that can possibly be done from India or China or elsewhere is being done there. This is very basic economics. Until the cost is such that, across the board, it is cheaper to manufacture or provide tech services here, it ain't happening.
As far as your IT example, there are tens of thousands of IT people out there right now that are sitting on their collective thumbs because the jobs aren't there. My own former students are some of those people. Now you're going to glut the market with millions more?
Originally posted by jjf3rd77It doesn't matter where it's built. It's still the Chinese building the thing. And the companies paying Chinese people to build it. The parts and labor is coming from China.
Originally posted by jjf3rd77Again, I'm not talking about infrastructure. I'm talking about education! We NEED to teach people everything we can about computers. I plan to make my resume as flexible as possible and am working towards getting a number of certifications for job security. The problem again, with most IT people is that they train themselves on one thing. Fixing computers. And then when clients run out they are stuck. Why not get educated in more systems while working. Get more certifications to beef up your resume. Not after you lost your job, while your working! Stop playing five hour video games and start learning new stuff.
Originally posted by marg6043
Again, Sadly that is not so, the brake down of the now 400 billions is going to do what the last two stimulus has done, preserve jobs and keep government pensions extended for a few more months.
Temp jobs are just that temp jobs they only last as long as the money is there, that is why we are heading for our third stimulus and still the nation is going back wards and not forward, borrowing is not the solution to the problem it just makes the problem worst, while sugar coating government GDP figures.
Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
This time around, it WILL be going into the pockets of those whom WILL NOT HOARD wealth - the middle classes and the poor. They can't afford to, not with the kind of money they are getting. As one here had said ' give me $5000 a month and I will solve my own economic crisis'. This is what the 3rd stimulus will do - circulating wealth.
There is hope. If partisan politics get in the way, then the american Sovereign People must take a stand, seek a Referendum to pass the Obama bill, or all will be lost....
I strongly support Obama's bill. Although I would focus more on the tax cuts for working Americans and tax incentives for small business. I think in the current political climate, this is about the best deal that can made between the parties. Sadly GOP will not support tax cuts for the average working American without tax cuts for the rich. Obama is right, at this stage in our economy, we cannot do both. Nor does it make sense in this economy to have the richest corporations and people paying less of their share, while the people at the bottom struggle to eat and keep a roof over their heads. The rich need to stop sitting on their money. Economies only work when money circulates.
Originally posted by mishigas
As far as paying "fair shares", the fact is that 47% of Americans pay zero income tax.