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reply posted on 6-9-2011 @ 01:03 PM by GoalPoster
I guess you do not ascribe to the 'Grabem Yourankles' theory of economics.

See, that's when somebody has a whole lotta stuff that everyone needs so they charge whatever the hell they want for it and you can't say squat or they'll just jack the price up some more.

And, when you collectively start bitching about the price, they'll come up with real dandy excuses . . . er . . . reasons for jacking the price up such as . . .

There's a big war down the road so we have to jack up the price just in case something goes wrong and the war down the road comes up the road because they just found out we covertly started that war down the road. . . . or some dandy one such as. . .

There maybe might somehow be a hurricane somewhere near where we may or may not be making the stuff you want to buy so we've got to jack the crap out of the prices so just in case something bad happens from the hurricane that might happen we have enough profits to rebuild anything that might be damaged if something might happen from the hurricane that might happen . . . or something like this . . .

In the summer we have to use special chemicals in the stuff we sell you because in the summer it makes more pollution than in the winter so we have to charge you more for it because in the winter we put other stuff in it to keep it from freezing and stuff like that so we just perpetually jack the crap outta the prices and you keep buying our stuff so quitcherbitchin' . . . or how about this doozy

You really can't set the price of our product by the input. See there's crude input and there's Brent input. We actually like to tell you that we like Brent input even though we don't use it very often because it tears into our profits abit too much. So remember Crude vs. Brent . . . honest . . . . . .

Face it . . . there ain't nothin' sinister here . . .THEY'RE SCREWING YOUR EYES OUT . . . THEY KNOW IT, YOU KNOW IT, EVERYONE ELSE KNOWS IT . . . . . . . so when it comes to gasoline prices, grabem your ankles, grin, bear it and try to think happy thoughts.
edit on 6-9-2011 by GoalPoster because: cuz I'm bored and have nothing better to do with my time.


reply posted on 6-9-2011 @ 06:37 PM by Fiberx
reply to post by DerekJR321


Through all accusations there is one thing that 99% of Americans have lost touch with.

To a very large extent we are willing partners in the greed.

As a people, if we organize as groups, we can decide the destiny of these corporations.

Don't like Exxon? Refuse to buy their products. Drive as little as possible and watch prices fall. Organize the closing of a few million BofA accounts in one day... Watch them collapse. Organize class action lawsuits.

Consumers have the ultimate power of life or death over these entities, it just requires cooperation, which we really suck at in this nation where most people barely know their neighbors.

In early 2009 Americans drove 3 billion miles less in a month than the same month in 2008. Oil promptly dropped 100 points!

If consumers set standards for price and refuse to pay more, the seller either lowers the price or goes out of business... If they collapse, someone with a better model WILL replace them, period.

That's the power of an intelligent consumer class, life or death!


reply posted on 6-9-2011 @ 08:17 PM by Ajax
Originally posted by Fiberx
reply to post by DerekJR321


Through all accusations there is one thing that 99% of Americans have lost touch with.

To a very large extent we are willing partners in the greed.

As a people, if we organize as groups, we can decide the destiny of these corporations.

Don't like Exxon? Refuse to buy their products. Drive as little as possible and watch prices fall. Organize the closing of a few million BofA accounts in one day... Watch them collapse. Organize class action lawsuits.

Consumers have the ultimate power of life or death over these entities, it just requires cooperation, which we really suck at in this nation where most people barely know their neighbors.

In early 2009 Americans drove 3 billion miles less in a month than the same month in 2008. Oil promptly dropped 100 points!

If consumers set standards for price and refuse to pay more, the seller either lowers the price or goes out of business... If they collapse, someone with a better model WILL replace them, period.

That's the power of an intelligent consumer class, life or death!


Fiberx, entirely agree with you - and I am one of those that would happily join such a movement (and have). However when I express myself and these feelings to friends, family, neighbors, co-workers, others online, anyone - there is always a shared, dull sentiment of "that's a great idea, and you're right...but nothing will ever change, so why inconvenience myself..."

You're right that Americans are HORRIBLE at both cooperation and organization. Not just the average citizen of course, hell just look at our political fiasco right now. Congress vs. the White House, the entire system is a joke, nothing can get accomplished, and the result is the fleecing of the middle class and the plummeting of our economy.

With regard to organizing and boycotting gasoline companies, closing BoA accounts, etc, people are just too scared. They're too scared they'll lose their job if they don't go to work a few days, too scared of any ramifications, and so any such movement just fizzles into nothing. This government and the corporate power-brokers have our populous exactly where they want them; existing as scared, weak, timid creatures.


reply posted on 6-9-2011 @ 11:31 PM by Ajax
Originally posted by fooks
so what is the solution?

nationalize the industry?

start a USA gas/oil company owned by the gov to compete? i like this idea.

come down hard on these clowns at the fed level?

we need more refineries or better ones.

actually i like all the above.

what if the USA goes independent of oil, what will happen to the world's prices?

that is a big market share to loose.

we could make billions a year, doing it ourselves and keeping it in the family.

hey, no more "war for oil" right? lol!


fooks, I actually really like all of those ideas, but there is just so much money big oil and lobbyists are willing to throw at corrupt politicians for that ever to happen. They'll bring the entire world down on top of itself before they allow themselves to lose this battle, I really believe that. I also like the idea of the USA going independent of oil, the world would be rocked overnight. I have NO idea what would happen to the world's prices, it'd be pretty crazy.

I think the problem stems even further than hitting big oil and market share directly, I think it goes back to our own corrupt government and political system (despite how corrupt the OPEC and the rest of the world is). There are so many loopholes here where money can slip through, and they make the laws, it's a win/win for them. The problem is the bi-partisan system which has created an "us vs. them" battlefield and some of the crazies on each side will not budge and do anything to ruin the other. They've stopped caring about what's best for this country and only care for their party, affiliation, and money.

I really don't know what to do.
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