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IHOP Shooting: Multiple People Reportedly Shot In Carson City, Nevada

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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 12:51 PM
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IHOP Shooting: Multiple People Reportedly Shot In Carson City, Nevada

Multiple people have been shot at an IHOP restaurant in Carson City, Nevada, according to local media reports.

According to KOLO-TV, initial details are sketchy but the shooting took place on the 3800 block of Carson Street.

At least eight were shot and the gunman was carrying a semi-automatic weapon, The Record-Courier reports. "Several people were killed," according to the Carson City Sheriff's Department.

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The shooting occurred just prior to 9 a.m., per The Record-Courier, which adds the suspect is reportedly "down."

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UPDATE: The Carson City Sheriff's Office tells the AP that the IHOP is clear and the building is secure.





Terrible. No real details yet.


edit on 6-9-2011 by loam because: (no reason given)




posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 12:52 PM
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Gives a new meaning to the name I-Hop am I right?

In all seriousness though they should ban guns. No guns = no gun violence. Keeps the crazies from owning weapons.


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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 12:58 PM
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A bit more here:


The gunman is reported to have opened fire on customers in the restaurant with a semi-automatic gun,
then turned the weapon on himself.
Carson City Sheriff Kenny Furlong told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that the gunman was not expected to survive. The wounded customers have been transported to a nearby hospital.


news.sky.com...



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 12:58 PM
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Ok wow-I have never had a post do that before...

It was from UK sky news,and maybe contained details not allowed in the US at the mo??
Hmmm.Weird.How does that filter work Mods?
Didn't mean to cause trouble BTW.


edit on 6/9/2011 by Silcone Synapse because: additional words.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 01:00 PM
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He says multiple people were wounded, including the shooter. He says the person who authorities believe to be the shooter has been transported to a hospital "and is probably going to die."


Link.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 01:00 PM
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surely america should adopt mandatory gun ownership so that the moment any idiot pulls a gun in a public space everyone else pulls their guns and sends him 6 feet deep before he can cause trouble

but /sad for those who have lost their lifes over someones stupid actions



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 01:01 PM
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Jeez, horrible. There are crazies in this world who are ready to snap. More people are at that point than what we think.... :\



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 01:03 PM
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Has to be some glitch. The boards have been acting real strange lately.

Anyway, if you quote the post, the content is still visible:



The gunman is reported to have opened fire on customers in the restaurant with a semi-automatic gun, then turned the weapon on himself.

Link.






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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 01:09 PM
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According to a post to the article found here, the gunman was the boyfriend of an employee at the the restaurant.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by loam
According to a post to the article found here, the gunman was the boyfriend of an employee at the the restaurant.


Figures.

Emotionally immature people coupling causes more trouble than money, religion and politics combined.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by Silcone Synapse
Ok wow-I have never had a post do that before...

It was from UK sky news,and maybe contained details not allowed in the US at the mo??
Hmmm.Weird.How does that filter work Mods?
Didn't mean to cause trouble BTW.


edit on 6/9/2011 by Silcone Synapse because: additional words.



Wow

That's the first time I've seen that female stick figure as well


Ooops, sorry.
I see now that its a scale

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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 01:18 PM
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Shooter confirmed dead of self-inflicted gunshot wound




Fran Hunter, who works at Sierra Le Bone, a pet shop, just north of the IHOP, was having breakfast this morning at the Casino Fandango.

As she came out, two guys on motorcycles said they heard shots.

Hunter said the suspect came out of IHOP and shot out the windows of the barbecue place. He fired shot at least two shots toward Casino Fandango.

"I was standing in front of Fandango, and somebody said, 'Oh he shot himself,' " Hunter said.

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10:50 a.m. update: The Carson City Sheriff's Office is confirming that the shooter is dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.


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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 01:22 PM
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Just an update from the press conference.

10 people shot.. 9 victims and the shooter.
11 agencies responded.

So far there have been 3 deaths, not all of them male.

Two died on the scene, and one during surgery.

At least 2 of the deceased were military, and in uniform.

The gunman is in the hospital with a self inflicted wound, and is not expected to survive.

Edit to update:

The shooter has just been confirmed dead by AP.

Aside from the two military members that have died, two of the other victims were also in uniform, making a total of 4. This caused bases in the area to go into a heightened state of alert, as well as government buildings to go into lock-down mode for some time.

The next press conference is at 3pm PST.


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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 01:29 PM
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We should leave this notion of banning guns behind. It's like wanting to burn all of the Harry Potters. Seriously, we're talking about a device that is 700 years old. Its a barrel, a projectile, and a propellant - so unless you can ban all of those then you cannot ban guns. The less educated people will resort to knives but those with as least as much intelligence as those that lived hundreds and hundreds of years ago will make new ones and then only the bad guys and the police (whats the difference?) will have them.
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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 01:31 PM
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Terrible....

but

...MK Ultra? Monarch? Home-grown terror, or disgruntled boyfriend?

We'll never know the truth, as he is dead (or will be soon)...

Good riddance, and condolences to the families.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 01:41 PM
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I don't follow your logic on this one, banning guns will eliminate violence? Hate to brake it to you but criminals could give a damn less about what is banned, banning guns just makes the law abiding citizens more vulnerable. If everyone on the block was carrying weapons openly a criminal would think twice before doing something stupid, IMO.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by rcanem
reply to post by IlluminatusOculus33
 


I don't follow your logic on this one, banning guns will eliminate violence? Hate to brake it to you but criminals could give a damn less about what is banned, banning guns just makes the law abiding citizens more vulnerable. If everyone on the block was carrying weapons openly a criminal would think twice before doing something stupid, IMO.


There is a lot of unhinged people out there that can easily buy a gun. Gun violence would be zero if it was illegal for having one and harsh sentences for owning any. If everyone had guns it would make gun violence worse, bad enough people get in random fights with people they don't know last thing you need is them having guns to kill each other with.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 04:57 PM
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www.cnn.com...
Sheriff Ken Furlong of the Carson City Sheriff's Office declined to identify the suspect, who he said used an automatic weapon in the shootings.

If this really was a full auto weapon than there is a chance he got it from military stocks. 

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My profile of the perp:

--He probably lived alone or had become estranged from his family.

--He was suffering extreme financial stress at the time, possibly having been separated from the service within the last two years.

--Friends may notice abrupt changes in mood in the days and weeks before the shooting.  He may have complained that lately he has experienced strange and vivid dreams of a violent nature.

--He will be dressed in all black and/or camoflage. 

--Eyewitnesses at the scene will say the shooter was 'like a robot,' or that there were a totally blank expression on his face.

--The media will paint him as a loner, but he will in fact have a circle of friends or be part of a clique.

--Extra ammo/guns/bombs will be found at his home and in his auto(this to 'close the circle' of guilt in the public's mind).  The guns will have been legally acquired by the shooter or a close relative/neighbor.   He will have brought an excessive quantity of ammunition to the scene. 

--He will be computer-savvy, and likely left an online presence.   He may have left some kind of manifesto, though it will be incomprehensible/nonsensical for the most part.  He will have hinted at what he had planned, but the name of the target itself will not be mentioned. 

--He will probably have been a player of violent video games, and will have been a fan of violence-themed movies.  He will have produced his own videos in which he is seen with his weapons or expressing his hatred and/or violence.

--He will have a strong interest in weapons--guns, knives, swords, bombs--or the military. 

--He will have had contact with a military recruiter or he will have spent some time in the military before being seperated under murky circumstances.

--He will have been mentally "treated" at some point by a counselor, psychologist, or a psychiatrist. 

--He will have a history of taking SSRIs(selective seritonin reuptake inhibitors).

--There is some likelihood that he was institutionalized or hospitalized at some point before the attack.  At any rate there will gaps in the timeline where police cannot account for his whereabouts.

--He probably had some contact with the police/law enforcement before the shooting.

--If he survived the assault, he will be unable to explain why he did what he did.  He may claim that 'voices' in his head told him to do it.  Or he may not even remember the act at all.   But whether the shooter lives or dies, motive will always remain a mystery.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 06:13 PM
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It seems most of the victims were uniformed National Guard members

news.yahoo.com...


CARSON CITY, Nev. (AP) — Authorities have released the name of the man who shot five uniformed National Guard members at a Nevada IHOP, killing two of them and another person in a hail of gunfire.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 06:34 PM
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Shooter was a 32 year old Hispanic male. Had no ties to this particular IHOP restaurant (so no ex girlfriend working there).

Seems odd that he would target only the Nevada National Guard soldiers eating lunch there. Perhaps he was rejected for military service? He did look rather overweight in the released photo, they also specifically stated that he did not serve in the US military.







 
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