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Crimes for Prostitution Decrease AFTER State Criminalizes Prostitution

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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 07:31 AM
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Prostitution in Rhode Island was outlawed in 2009. On November 3, governor Donald Carcieri signed into law a bill which makes the buying and selling of sexual services a crime.[9] Prostitution was legal in Rhode Island between 1980 and 2009 because there was no specific statute to define the act and outlaw it, although associated activities such as street solicitation, running a brothel and pimping were illegal.


en.wikipedia.org...

State crime statistics show that since fixing the loophole in the law that allowed prostitution to go without enforcement, less people have committed a crime for the act of prostitution.

State crime statistics shows the following crimes per year:

2010 - 86 crimes

2009 - 101 crimes

2008 - 236 crimes

2007 - 192 crimes

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How is it possible that there are more crimes for prostitution when the law did not make prostitution criminal until 2009? It seems that there were more reported crimes for prostitution when it was not criminal.




posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 07:34 AM
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if prostitution was legal, how could there be any crimes of prostitution to compare this with?



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 07:39 AM
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That is the exact question I am looking for answer with lol. Care to provide any more insight?



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 07:41 AM
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That doesn't make sense to me either.... How can there be more crime...when it was not a crime?

Well,if they are trying to reduce prostitution, sounds like they should open that loophole back up???
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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 07:41 AM
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Prostitution is illegal because the government can't tax it, also that if the government went to Escorts, they'd have to pay a surplus of 100% simply because politicians are scum.

But anyways, most laws to prevent "crime" and to make life "easier" that are initiated by the government, always do the opposite, and that's why they're made.
if prostitution did become legal, rape would significantly drop, but hey that would never happen, since the human mind isn't in the government and they don't have our interests at heart.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 07:42 AM
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Originally posted by filosophia
if prostitution was legal, how could there be any crimes of prostitution to compare this with?


According to the article, other activities associated with prostitution were illegal. If I had to guess, Rhode Island was dumping all of those into the statistics as well and, following the recent change in the laws, simply changed the manner in which they classify those offenses.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 07:43 AM
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Well, I do know that States receive federal dollars based on reported crimes. Is it possible judges and police were enforcing a defunct law and reporting them to obtain federal dollars?



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 07:44 AM
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Originally posted by ExPostFacto
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That is the exact question I am looking for answer with lol. Care to provide any more insight?


Seems like they are comparing apples and oranges, in that they are comparing crimes of brothel or pimping (which was illegal before 2007) to now recent prostitution laws, and comparing acts of prostitution to previous year acts of brothels. So if they arrested 80 prostitutes in the act (?) they must have compared this with previous acts of just arresting prostitutes on the street. Most likely they are combining acts of prostitution with acts of brothels all together, and then comparing this to previous years where prostitution type activities were caught. Basically I think it's comparing apples and oranges.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 07:48 AM
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if prostitution did become legal, rape would significantly drop, but hey that would never happen, since the human mind isn't in the government and they don't have our interests at heart.


ive always thought about this, have studies ever been done to show this? because i know that it makes logical sense



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 07:59 AM
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It sounds plausible. I checked the 2008 crime statistics report prior to the law change and found the exact numbers reported above. So they definitely did not go back and adjust the numbers. It does say solicitation was illegal, so maybe these numbers represented solicitation offenses. Who knows, but I doubt a change in law actually stopped the behavior; rather, the prostitutes adapted to the circumstances.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by UniverSoul
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if prostitution did become legal, rape would significantly drop, but hey that would never happen, since the human mind isn't in the government and they don't have our interests at heart.


ive always thought about this, have studies ever been done to show this? because i know that it makes logical sense


Here's a link to the worlds rape distribution rates.
The countries which have low rape rates have legalized and regulate prostitution.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 08:08 AM
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Originally posted by RadeonGFXRHumanGTXisAlien

Originally posted by UniverSoul
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if prostitution did become legal, rape would significantly drop, but hey that would never happen, since the human mind isn't in the government and they don't have our interests at heart.


ive always thought about this, have studies ever been done to show this? because i know that it makes logical sense


Here's a link to the worlds rape distribution rates.
The countries which have low rape rates have legalized and regulate prostitution.


haha just brilliant! if that’s not a conspiracy what is?



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 08:23 AM
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That is an amazing contrast isn't it? America the home of the sexually repressed. Here is another interesting tidbit.

Nevada is the only US state that allows prostitution in 2009 their total Rape is: 1,014 total attempted and forcible rapes representing .37 to 1,000.

nvrepository.state.nv.us...

For comparison, view Texas one of the most conservative states:


The estimated number of Rapes committed in Texas in 2009 was 8,286. The Rape rate for Texas was 33.4 Rapes for every 100,000 people


www.txdps.state.tx.us...

So it appears in the US brothels located in remote locations outside of the city have no affect in driving down rape rates. However, in other countries like you have shown, it does seem to have some affect. I would imagine this boils down to access to the services and not so much that there exists services somewhere a person cannot get to.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 08:36 AM
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yea well its probably because rapists dont rape to satisfy purely sexual urges, its more of a control, domination, kinda sick bastard thing.

theres actual studies and stuff that look into the motivations for these crimes, but basically theyre real messed up.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 08:46 AM
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You are mostly right. But also, they continuously cracked down on establishments that could be classified as brothels, so ultimately attrition brought down that aspect of the statistics -- I'm pretty sure that the law did play a role, but it's mainly due to stricter enforcement in the first place.



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