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posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 03:53 PM
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Oct 6, 2008

Mystery illness kills four in South Africa


Four people, two of them Zambians, have died in Johannesburg of a mystery flu-like illness, the health department spokesman said Monday


AFP




Dec 7, 2010

Uganda mystery illness: Tests fail to identify killer


Tests have so far failed to identify an illness that has killed at least 38 people in northern Uganda, officials say.


BBC




Aug 6, 2011

Flintshire boy, 4, dies of mystery illness in Kenya


The happy and healthy youngster had been ill for 12 days due to deadly toxins released into his body by an unidentified bacteria or virus, causing his organs to shut down.


Daily Post




Nov 8, 2011

Mysterious Illness At Leroy High School


Leroy, N.Y. (WKBW) - It's been more than a week that six Leroy High School students have been shaking uncontrollably and the cause has doctors stumped.


WKBW





Feb 12, 2012

Mystery epidemic devastates Central American region


An inexplicable epidemic in Central America where more than 16,000 people — mostly sugar cane workers — have died from incurable chronic kidney disease.


NBC



Mar 6, 2012

Uganda government squabbles while children die of mysterious disease


KAMPALA, Uganda — The Ugandan government has come under fire for its handling of a mysterious disease that has killed hundreds of children in the northern part of this impoverished East African nation.


Washington Times


Too much "Mystery" if you ask me...
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posted on Mar, 23 2014 @ 07:48 AM
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Guinea deaths: Ebola blamed for deadly fever outbreak



The Ebola virus has been identified as the cause of an outbreak of haemorrhagic fever now believed to have killed nearly 60 people in southern Guinea, government officials say.


BBC



posted on Jul, 24 2014 @ 04:50 PM
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This just THIS year

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posted on Jul, 24 2014 @ 08:33 PM
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a reply to: Hellas

Neither link works but your first quote refers to "virus sequencing technology" - not virus sequences. Two very different things.

Most important - the technologies and virus sequences are, and have been in corporate hands since their discovery. [How else do you think Big Pharma comes up with all their mega-billion dollar "treatments"?] ....All that's happening now is that public bodies are seeking access.

I'm just blown away by all the fuss and panic that ensues when scientists committed to Open Access start doing the same things Big Pharma has been doing for the past century.

Like you all think Big Pharma's Big Boyz are there to take good care of you all.





[sigh]



posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 08:37 AM
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Oh but you're not blowing away that something like that was mentioned in a confidential cable? If it was something that happens all the time, they wouldn't mention it!

ETA: from the cable

The delivery would place the recipient in the position of being able to create replicating recombinant infectious species of these viruses.
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posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 08:55 AM
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Oh but you're not blowing away that something like that was mentioned in a confidential cable?


...what did you expect? That they wouldn't?!


If it was something that happens all the time, they wouldn't mention it!


And you know that because...?


The delivery would place the recipient in the position of being able to create replicating recombinant infectious species of these viruses.


Yes, that's the point. Otherwise how are you going to study them?



posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 09:18 AM
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a reply to: VashKonnor

Why should they??? This is a confidential cable not your grocery list!

And if it would be that normal, Germany wouldn't have raised their concern about the inquiry!



given the sensitivity of the items in question, Germany would deny the export to a distributor and would only issue export permits to individual end-users on a case-by-case basis


Reading helps


A German firm has applied for the approval of the export of 184 genetic elements with nucleic acid sequences of viruses for the production of recombinant viruses. The viruses will be used in optical imaging to identify host factors required for viral replication. The recipient in the USA is, according to the enclosed end use certificate, the Department of the Army "US Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID)" Fort Detrick, Maryland. Specifications in English about the goods, the recipient and end use can be seen from the end use certificate. The goods are controlled by the Australia Group and are subject to compulsory export approval (List position C1C353A). This matter concerns the complete genome of viruses such as the Zaire Ebola virus, the Lake Victoria Marburg virus, the Machupo virus and the Lassa virus, which are absolutely among the most dangerous pathogens in the world. The delivery would place the recipient in the position of being able to create replicating recombinant infectious species of these viruses.



Cable
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posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 11:14 AM
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Why should they??? This is a confidential cable not your grocery list!


Are you asking why should they study them...?

I don't know... so that the Western part of the World isn't a bigger scale of the nightmare that Africa is when it comes to contagious diseases?...So that the US military isn't crippled if a terrorist agency or rogue government decides to piss on all international laws regarding viral and chemical weapons?...


And if it would be that normal, Germany wouldn't have raised their concern about the inquiry!


They didn't raise concern. They delayed it, and answered the request by saying they would only accept an individual request that would be studied after such submission.

This is how these agencies communicate, and someone like yourself, by not knowing this is normal and standard, becomes alarmed without the need for it.

You put your cute words in red, and you wave your arms in the air, and the word highlighted is "DENY", so people think that doomsday must be around the corner or that a US agency/army is going to spread a green gas around the globe while someone with an evil laugh pets the cat's head and looks into an 80's-styled global projection.

That's very good in a Bond movie, but this is not how things work in the real world.

Anytime a new string appears, you need to update your own database. Maybe that update comes from California, and it's within your jurisdiction. But most of the times another nation discovers something, or updates their findings, or whatever... And in that case, like international laws state on that matter you need to make a request. Or it could be that you simply need more material to study in a lab...

Those little bugs are serious, and you are not even allowed to store certain types of virus and bacteria, unless.... you guessed it(I hope)! You make a request for it!

Germany isn't the virus-god here. In practice, they don't have any authority over the U.S. Army or any other agency to say to them "you can't have this" unless it's their private patented property. The only reason why the U.S. is asking them, it's because it saves time and money, instead of developing and doing all the research on their own. This is what is called "cooperation".

Who received the request - and like any other German, who are obsessed with order and doing things right and formally - noticed that an element was missing. This could mean that someone forgot to put the right stamp on it, or that a terrorist somewhere was trying to replicate an official request so they could get their hands on some viruses.

That's why they denied it and requested a follow up request.

Again, this is everyday stuff if you work in the viral industry.


Reading helps


It does! Have you started yet?

Here, let me help you with that. I will even avoid highlighting important stuff in red, so that nobody else has their panties on panic-mode.


German MFA Deputy Head of Division for Export Control Markus Klinger provided the following non-paper to Econoff, seeking additional assurances related to a proposed export of extremely dangerous pathogens to the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases.

The Army's end use certificate provided to Germany is lacking an official seal. Klinger's deputy, Nancy Reck, noted that Germany had made two follow-up requests to the Army seeking assurances and clarifications related to this proposed export. The GOG seeks assurances from the USG or US Army that the end use certificate and the information contained therein are legitimate and accurate.


This basically means they were not sure the request was official... They aren't scare of what americans are going to do with it, they are not even scared about americans asking for it. They were reluctant to hand it over without checking for the official mark (whatever it is) first.


Against the background of our partnership in the area of non-proliferation and our excellent cooperation in the matters of export controls, we would like to bring the following issue to the attention of your government.


A.K.A. -> "someone on your side f# up the request homie".


Because of the particular criticality of these goods, the German federal government practices an exceptionally restrictive approval policy for such exports.


Again...playing it safe.


The enclosed end use certificate is on the letterhead of the U.S. Army. The required official seal is missing, however. A decision about the export has not yet been made.


The request looks like an official letter, the wording is like an official letter, but the official seal is missing.

This isn't freaking rocket science. They aren't sure about the providence of the request, so they delayed the response to that request.


Given the foregoing, we would appreciate confirmation that the end use certificate really is from the Department of the Army and of the accuracy of the data contained therein.


I don't need to explain something THIS simple, do I?


We look forward to the continuation of our excellent cooperation in matters of non-proliferation and export controls.


See? Germans are always nice when saying goodbye in a letter.

So... Do you still wish to continue that alarmist tone? Or did you finally understand what this cable is about? (a freaking missing stamp)

I'm actually happier after reading the cable. Someone in this world is actually careful with stuff that could wipe out whole nations. It's a good thing...



posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 01:51 PM
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a reply to: VashKonnor


They aren't scare of what americans are going to do with it, they are not even scared about americans asking for it. They were reluctant to hand it over without checking for the official mark (whatever it is) first.


Oh really?


An approval here can only be issued if an improper end use in association
with the development or production of biologic weapons
approaches can be foreclosed with a probability approaching
certainty.
The enclosed end use certificate is on the letterhead of the
U.S. Army. The required official seal is missing, however.
A decision about the export has not yet been made.


They know pretty well with whom they're dealing with here!

Which also answers this


they don't have any authority over the U.S. Army or any other agency to say to them "you can't have this"




That's very good in a Bond movie, but this is not how things work in the real world.


Now go wave your flag..
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posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 02:00 PM
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a reply to: Hellas

One big difference being that Big Pharma does it all the time but scientists working Open Access do not. ....Are you trying to protect Big Pharma's turf, or just doing it heedlessly?



posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 02:22 PM
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originally posted by: soficrow
a reply to: Hellas

One big difference being that Big Pharma does it all the time but scientists working Open Access do not. ....Are you trying to protect Big Pharma's turf, or just doing it heedlessly?



No of course not! When did I say that??

Especially with the bird flu vaccine that causes cancer.. They made billions with it! Thank god the majority denied having that vaccine. If I remember correctly, Dick Cheney was involved in one of those companies that produced the "vaccine"
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posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 02:50 PM
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You are going after the scientists that work for Open Access and against Big Pharma - and supporting the campaign to protect Big Pharma's Intellectual Property Rights and profit-generating turf. Whether you know it or not.



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 05:20 PM
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a reply to: soficrow

Maybe you are rethinking your theory now that Ebola has reached the US, too!



posted on Oct, 6 2014 @ 07:39 AM
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originally posted by: Hellas
a reply to: soficrow

Maybe you are rethinking your theory now that Ebola has reached the US, too!


What theory?



posted on Oct, 6 2014 @ 08:02 AM
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originally posted by: soficrow

originally posted by: Hellas
a reply to: soficrow

Maybe you are rethinking your theory now that Ebola has reached the US, too!


What theory?



What you were saying above my post. that they need the virus for their oh so holy experiments. What a coincidence, huh?



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 12:58 PM
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Seems like Google is all over this infamous cable in the last hours.

Wonder why..





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