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Originally posted by namehere
god just wants to be with us and loved by us, belief and to do good is all he asks of us really- if we refuse any of this the punishment is from our own doing and you'll know you deserve it on judgement day.
Originally posted by dreamlandmafia
So what...if we dont believe....because we look for the logic in things...we get eternal damnation?? That punishment seems WAY to harsh for an all powerful omnipotent god with an ego problem that wants us to love him.
[Edited on 23-8-2004 by dreamlandmafia]
Originally posted by TACHYON
Ever since i joined ATS i have seen a lot of atheists on ATS, and it pisses me off when people of no faith tend to call others "religious sheep." I am assuming that it means we are being herded.
Lesson 1
Psalm 23:1 - The Lord is My Shepherd
In this first lesson children learn that God loves us and gives us everything we need. He is like a good shepherd who takes care of his sheep. Woolie the Puppet teaches this lesson by showing the children a picture he drew of the Good Shepherd, the green pastures, still waters and his friends.
Lesson 2
Psalm 23:2 - He Makes Me Lie Down
In this lesson children learn from Woolie that God knows what is good for us even if we don't. Sometimes it seems like God isn't listening to us or answering our prayers like we want him to, but God knows what is best for us. He knows exactly what we need and when we need it.
Lesson 3
Psalm 23:3 - He Leads Me
In this lesson Woolie learns that the Good Shepherd leads us on the right paths. Children also learn that God leads us through his word, through prayer, and the Holy Spirit. He tells us how to live so that we will be happy and successful.
Crafts include:
A framed color sheet
A bookmark
A paper bag sheep puppet
"The Lord is My Shepherd" display
Activities include:
making a edible sheep from pancakes or toast,
"Draw a Sheep" game
"Pin the Tail on the Sheep" game
"Dress the Sheep" game.
Originally posted by TrueLies
I got alittle christian back a few months ago, and then I slapped myself.
Originally posted by Bout Time
Originally posted by TrueLies
I got alittle christian back a few months ago, and then I slapped myself.
You know, that happened to me this weekend...but I slapped her....and it was a butt cheek......she did turn the to the other....and asked for another! I think it ended at about an even 15 'Our Fathers' & 'Hail Marys' worth of penance, but.......do loud "OH, GOD!" exclamations count towards the act of contrition?
Originally posted by TACHYON
Ever since i joined ATS i have seen a lot of atheists on ATS, and it pisses me off when people of no faith tend to call others "religious sheep."
[edit on 23-8-2004 by TACHYON]
Originally posted by TrueLies
Originally posted by Bout Time
Originally posted by TrueLies
I got alittle christian back a few months ago, and then I slapped myself.
You know, that happened to me this weekend...but I slapped her....and it was a butt cheek......she did turn the to the other....and asked for another! I think it ended at about an even 15 'Our Fathers' & 'Hail Marys' worth of penance, but.......do loud "OH, GOD!" exclamations count towards the act of contrition?
Are we talking about the same thing here?? lol, i'm getting the impression your about a two second bus ride away from writing one of those cheesy romance novels... title it "the act of penance" and call yourself daddy...
Originally posted by James the Lesser
Jazzerman, you are right, they are acting like gays are out to get them. Damn, and I thought I was paranoid about the CIA. Hmmm, maybe that black van outside my place is really a gay guy trying to spy on me. Oh no, the gays are trying to take over the world! Run! Hide! The gays are coming the gays are coming!
Holy hell on Stilts that sounds funny. Imagine Paul riding a horse through the twn yelling that instead of the Red Coats are Coming.
People, there is no gay agenda. This so reminds me of the 50's and 60's and 70's. Back then blacks were not allowed to marry to whites, not allowed to hold office, and were treated like they were trying to take over the world. KKK, eat your hearts out!
I realize that christians have an excuse to think that gays are gonna try to take over the world. In the past they tried to take over the world leading to several religon wars and Inqusitions. And when that failed they just tortured you ar burnt you at a stake. Maybe they think since they act like that and think like that that everyone does. Sorry, only religous sheep believe in that.
Originally posted by TrueLies
The other secret they keep is that when people die they will go to hell...... but they don't, when they die, and they do wrong and are sorry they will go to hell for only a short time, and god will take them back to heaven. But the catholic priests didn't want to let this out because then people would see this and think they could do what they wanted here on earth knowing that they would be able to enter heaven shortly after their time in hell. They wanted people to FEAR damnation to keep them on the straight and narrow......
[edit on 23-8-2004 by TrueLies]
Originally posted by specialasianX
I believe dreamlandmafia stated he was going with my response... i think many people have not thought that a higher power being true is a possibility, so therefore dont want to contemplate what they would say if comfronted... i think my response to your question and then my response to your response (in which i am waiting for a repsonse to... confusing huh?) have kept me cover if (and a big if mind you) i am ever confronted by a higher power... and if i'm never confronted well then i lost nothing.
Originally posted by TACHYON
The only person who has responded to my questions is specialsianx, many of you others have tended to shy away from my questions. Is that because you realize that maybe I might be right?
What will you non-believers do hypothetically when the higher power(GOD or anyother power) comes and judges you? What will be your excuse then?