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Originally posted by SayonaraJupiter
Originally posted by Frira
reply to post by SayonaraJupiter
And, by the way...
I suspect you will respond to the above by stating that you have read the document.
No. You have NOT read the document. I know you have not read the document. The complexity of the material and its presentation is professional-- and leaves no room for comment on the cover art as a valid means of questioning its authenticity.
Look here, Frira. Are you trying to tell us that you have psychic abilities?
I kind of admire that you were willing to put your NASA belief system on the line and I'm impressed that you spent 33 pages defending it. But now you have absolutely crossed that line.
ATS is a forum for discussion. ATS is not your personal blog. There are many many free blogs out there if you want to blog about your personal pictures, your personal recollections about what your Daddy told you about Apollo.
I'm sorry to have to break the news to you in this way : you are wrong, Frira. I have read SP-368 Biomedical Results of Apollo so that I may deny my own ignorance. The first time I encountered it was in the Aussie Genius thread. www.abovetopsecret.com...
SP-368 is akin to a scriptural text for the Apollo faithful in that the orthodox believers may not deviate from it. I did read the entire book because I am open minded skeptic. The book contains 567 pages of tables & summaries written in 1975. Fecal matter and urine testing, mice killing, etc. Pages and pages of food menus, medical tablet intake regimens, etc.
You are correct. SP-368 is an important document in the Apollo mythology. Take for instance the possibility that certain astronauts were fearful of disclosing certain ailments that, if reported, might knock them off the program.
SP-368 doesn't come out and say "Michael Collins lied to his flight surgeons" but the report says what it says :
One interesting medical event that occurred on this flight was reported by the Command
Module Pilot in his account of the Apollo Program. _ He revealed that he had experienced
dysbarism (bends) on his first space flight (Gemini 10) as well as on his second
(Apollo 11). He described symptoms involving the left knee as a sharp, throbbing ache
which gradually worsened and leveled off at a moderate, but very uncomfortable level of
pain. The symptomatology was less painful on Apollo 11 than it had been on Gemini 10.
Unfortunately this information was not made available to the medical team during either
the Gemini or Apollo Programs. Source Page 73 of the pdf www.hq.nasa.gov...
So Frira I have read this book quite extensively. I know this book well enough to discuss it. That is what ATS is about Discussion is it not?
an important document in the Apollo mythology.
Originally posted by DrNotforhire
this thread just popped up in another one regarding "Magic Mountain" OP your story is amazing!!!!!
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
I have a question for the doubting thomases who think the moon landing is a hoax. You've been shown we did have the rocket technology to do it. You've been shown all the calculations on how to keep a human being alive in space. You've been shown space photos left and right. You've been given the testimony of the people who went to the moon and the people who worked to get them there. You've even been given explanations for all the supposed "evidence" you're using, from why the flag on the moon remained straight to how the Apollo craft got through the Van Allen radiation belt. You have religiously brushed all this off as being faked photographs, paid witnesses, staged events, etc etc etc.
May I ask what evidence you WOULD accept that would finally convince you to drop these absurd hoax claims? If photographs, scientific explanations, eyewitness accounts, and moon rocks aren't sufficient evidence, then what is?
Originally posted by Lexx790
If it was a hoax then how did they get the "lunar laser ranging retroreflector array" up there and set up? Which can be verified.
Originally posted by Illustronic
reply to post by NLDelta9
The readings from the laser reflector started in July of 1969. Now why would NASA send a probe and a manned mission at the same time just for laser mirror reflecting data? Fake the manned mission and succeed at the robot mission when we all know pretty well NASA didn't launch a rover of any kind for over a decade after Apollo. The data is there and the moon hoaxers have no answer to that, other than making up stories, or hiding behind the couch and throwing raspberries at grandma.
I find myself recently conflicted about the moon landings after spending some time at the above linked site. Pouring over all the still photos that have been dissected is compelling evidence that something is not right. To simply disregard this as "quackery" is just as ignorant.
"However, the above record of when the laser(s) was/were first fired turns out not to be correct. Jerry Wiant stated that the McDonald Observatory was unable to obtain any readings from the lunar surface until 'mid-August 1969.'"
Originally posted by Vitruvian
reply to post by Soylent Green Is People
But in your posted link we can see what appears to be a legitimate shadow extending from the flagpole. oe the distance of the shadow from the pole in your image and compare that distance to the image I posted above.
Linked image posted by Soylent
Orignal image posted above by Vitruvian
edit on 31-7-2012 by Vitruvian because: added photo