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Whats with these arrogant people who think aliens are demons?

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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by Raivan31
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Did you write the post that said "call me arrogant but........all of the aliens are actually demons?
sorry if I confused you with someone else.


Nope.

I wish you had something to contribute other than trying to find a way to attack my persons instead of the issue.
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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 05:40 PM
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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by Imtor

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Thank you.

That is all.
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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by Imtor Quote removed


Nice T&C violations, now that is how you do it!

Wish you would discuss the data and not just call me names.

LoL WTF when did I ever use Bible quotes to prove anything?
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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 05:48 PM
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i'm in agreement with the poster of this thread. it would be nice to find a group of rational people that could be talked to in a rational way to begin to take this field out of the hands of nutcases and really begin to figure this whole thing out.

personally, i don't think earth is the center of the galaxy. i don't think "aliens" are demons. i don't think ELEnin is out to destroy anybody. i don't think is so important that God has turned his attention away from whatever it is that God does and has focused it on earth. i don't even think earth is important enough to be destroyed. to destroy something takes a serious amount of effort...and from what i've seen, there's nothing on earth worth that effort.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 05:50 PM
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I love your point by point analysis, breaking down this guys rant. I was going to make a comment, but I think you pretty much covered it all. All I can add is in the end "every knee shall bow"!



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by MasterGemini

Originally posted by Raivan31
reply to post by MasterGemini
 


Did you write the post that said "call me arrogant but........all of the aliens are actually demons?
sorry if I confused you with someone else.


Nope.

I wish you had something to contribute other than trying to find a way to attack my persons instead of the issue.
edit on 6-9-2011 by MasterGemini because: (no reason given)


That's not what I was doing at all, just trying to establish who said what without having to read three pages of people attacking you. I might be lazy but I'm not 'yet' trying to attack you.
what exactly is your position because everyone else seems to be arguing with you, not that any of this can be proven one way or the other, it all requires faith.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 05:53 PM
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Most of you don't even seem to know what you're talking about.

You blast "Christianity" while the exact same demons/extradimensional entities are mentioned in the Quran and many other ancient texts.

It's not just "Christianity," we are dealing with some sort of extradimensional phenomenon on this planet... and that is not to say that actual space aliens don't exist elsewhere in the Universe.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by Raivan31

Originally posted by MasterGemini

Originally posted by Raivan31
reply to post by MasterGemini
 


Did you write the post that said "call me arrogant but........all of the aliens are actually demons?
sorry if I confused you with someone else.


Nope.

I wish you had something to contribute other than trying to find a way to attack my persons instead of the issue.
edit on 6-9-2011 by MasterGemini because: (no reason given)


That's not what I was doing at all, just trying to establish who said what without having to read three pages of people attacking you. I might be lazy but I'm not 'yet' trying to attack you.
what exactly is your position because everyone else seems to be arguing with you, not that any of this can be proven one way or the other, it all requires faith.


I was pointing out that Jack Parsons of JPL NASA was a spirit worshiper under Aleister Crowley and the OTO (Ordo Templi Orientis and he was a high priest).

Jack Parsons performed the Babylon ritual with L Ron Hubbard (founder of Scientology, religion where aliens are our gods...... oh and all the actors it has spewed out that continue to push the alien agenda)

1947 crowley dies

1947 33rd parallel Roswell UFO
33rd parallel Trinity ATOM bomb detonated (some say it ripped a whole in the dimensions LOL)


Dancing with Nazis
Aleister Crowley on Human Sacrifice

This is a chapter taken from the book “Magick in Theory and Practice” by Aleister Crowley. The text contains comments from the editor. The term “FRATER PERDURABO” is used by the editor to refer to Crowley. The editor seems to try to obfuscate what Crowley is saying when he talks about sacrificing humans, which is marked in blue in the text.

CHAPTER XII
OF THE BLOODY SACRIFICE: AND MATTERS COGNATE
raumfahrer.wordpress.com...



This whole matter is prophesied in the Book of the Law itself; let the student take note, and enter the ranks of the Host of the Sun. II There is another sacrifice with regard to which the Adepts have always maintained the most profound secrecy. It is the supreme mystery of practical Magick. Its name is the Formula of the Rosy Cross. In this case the victim is always — in a certain sense — the Magician himself, and the sacrifice must coincide with the utterance of the most sublime and secret name of the God whom he wishes to invoke.

Properly performed, it never fails of its effect. But it is difficult for the beginner to do it satisfactorily, because it is a great effort for the mind to remain concentrated upon the purpose of the ceremony. The overcoming of this difficulty lends most powerful aid to the Magician. It is unwise for him to attempt it until he has received regular initiation in the true Order of the Rosy Cross, [97] and he must have taken the vows with the fullest comprehension and experience of their meaning. It is also extremely desirable that he should have attained an absolute degree of moral emancipation, and that purity of spirit which results from a perfect understanding both of the differences and harmonies of the planes upon the Tree of Life.

For this reason FRATER PERDURABO has never dared to use this formula in a fully ceremonial manner, save once only, on an occasion of tremendous import, when, indeed, it was not He that made the offering, but ONE in Him. For he perceived a grave defect in his moral character which he has been able to overcome on the intellectual plane, but not hitherto upon higher planes. Before the conclusion of writing this book he will have done so.


The above talks about the magician sacrificing himself to attain the highest amount of energy.
Crowley death 1947
1947 roswell

NASA got to space because of Jack Parsons.....

Can't believe I keep re posting this for people.

Not to mention the Dajjal from the Koran.
Mohammed said the Dajjal would be ONE-EYED

Now look at the MI5 pyramid (crowley was a MI5 secret agent)
- 007 comes from John Dee (original secret agent under Queen Elizabeth and Magician)
GoldenEYE (get it now?)

All seeing eye on the dollar bill
All seeing eye in freemasonry

I gave links to videos on the 1st page in the 1st response box that explain all of this.

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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 06:05 PM
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Well mr cranky person I do tend to agree with most of what you've said however it is nigh on impossible to determine whether the activities of the people you mention actually worked or if they were just the result of an over active imagination.
I believe that they believed all of this stuff. The real question for me is the validity of their beliefs.
Are they right or are they nutbars?

I did say 'sorry if I confused you with someone else'
every shadow doesn't contain enemies you know so point your sword at someone else.
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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by Raivan31
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Well mr cranky person I do tend to agree with most of what you've said however it is nigh on impossible to determine whether the activities of the people you mention actually worked or if they were just the result of an over active imagination.
I believe that they believed all of this stuff. The real question for me is the validity of their beliefs.
Are they right or are they nutbars?


Fair enough.

I saw the Phoenix lights on the way back from piano lessons with my Mom, she freaked, it was awesome.

Have you ever looked up what Navi from that movie means in hebrew?

Navi
`Navi` can refer to: * `Navi` (singular, Hebrew, plural: `Nevi'im`) refers to a (or `the`) prophet in the Hebrew Bible; similar in meaning to the Arabic word Nabi. ** `Navi` can also refer to the study of Nevi'im, the Books of Prophets, a traditional Hebrew reference to the study of that section in...
Found on en.wikipedia.org...

navi
(from the article `prophecy`) The Hebrew word for prophet is navi`, usually considered to be a loan word from Akkadian nab, nab`um, `to proclaim, mention, call, summon.` Also ...
Found on www.britannica.com...

See the esoteric connections?

This is MUCH more prolific than generally excepted. Crowley has been the major influence of just about every MAJOR event in America.

'___' - Leary was a devout follower of Aleister Crowley and claimed to be completing his works.

The Beetles put him on a cover of their album. They did another after where they were flashing "magic" hand signs.

Jimmy Hendrix thought he was possessed by a spirit among MANY others.
( oh and Jack Parsons and L Ron Hubbard also I suppose)

Just because we don't believe in something does that make it not true?




Rules for Radicals

Saul Alinsky dedicated his book to Lucifer.

"Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins -- or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom -- Lucifer."


Aleister Crowley
Hymn to Lucifer



Ware, nor of good nor ill, what aim hath act?
Without its climax, death, what savour hath Life?
an impeccable machine,
exact He paces an inane and pointless path To glut brute appetites,
his sole content How tedious were he fit to comprehend Himself!
More, this our noble element Of fire in nature,
love in spirit, unkenned Life hath no spring, no axle, and no end.
His body a bloody-ruby radiant With noble passion,
sun-souled Lucifer Swept through the dawn colossal,
swift aslant On Eden's imbecile perimeter.
He blessed nonentity with every curse
And spiced with sorrow the dull soul of sense,
Breathed life into the sterile universe,
With Love and Knowledge drove out innocence
The Key of Joy is disobedience.



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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 06:20 PM
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I'm sorry, but I'm still at a complete loss here.

These demons piloting their ships manage to turn the humans of Earth away from God aka Creator of the Universe aka Yahweh.

Then what? It seems the idea is these demons have some plan of action, so what's the next step after successfully completing "the Great Deception"? Does Satan aka Lucifer aka Mel Gibson arrive then to take up his throne?

But I thought he was still chained down in the Seventh circle of Hell by God? WHAAAT?!



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 06:26 PM
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Jeez, think about it. They don't need them. It's a ploy. If they come to us as ETs. they must be ETs. Hello!



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by kwell
Aliens are demons. I'm sorry your being mislead. .


Prove it, or no takers. Actually, why not prove that Jesus ever existed while you are at it? Or, prove the Bible is all true?



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 06:31 PM
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What's up with these arrogant people who pretend they know either way?
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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by autowrench

Originally posted by kwell
Aliens are demons. I'm sorry your being mislead. .


Prove it, or no takers. Actually, why not prove that Jesus ever existed while you are at it? Or, prove the Bible is all true?


Not any solid proof, maybe you should look at the previous posts where evidence has been presented.

Please avoid the childish response of "If a is false then prove b is true" it is illogical when we don't the true number of variables.

Also what Bible are you referring to? There are many, . . . . MANY. So which one?

Anything to offer to move the discussion towards your POV?
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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by kaiode1
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What's up with arrogant people who pretend they know either way?


Care to look at the evidence laid out?

No? Just going to toss a one liner and bounce eh?

Adios.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 06:34 PM
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Ok, once again I follow all of what you are saying and IMHO I think there is validity in these concepts, after all, all of these people who followed these beliefs must have seen some results as a big part of their belief involved ritual and one can only assume that these rituals gave desired results otherwise they would have been abandoned aeons ago.
So if we work off of this assumption, what is the correct path? what is right and wrong? if the beatles were involved with something evil then why preach about love?
Did Alestair and his followers believe themselves to be evil or wrong? or were they just rebelling? and if so does that mean that we shouldn't rebel? even against something evil?
is rebellion wrong period or just when its against god? because lucifer (in crowley's word) was the original rebel.
its all very messy.
edit on 6-9-2011 by Raivan31 because: I was rebelling lol



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 06:42 PM
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Care to look at the evidence laid out?


Yep I've actually studied both sides of the argument pretty extensively, and there's no way for us to determine just what these things are. The evidence layed out in multiple religious texts, as well as the recently released fbi vault documents calls our conventional views of ET's into question. Whether they be aliens or demons, it's arrogance to pretend as if you know either way because quite frankly you don't. So just chill dude.




No? Just going to toss a one liner and bounce eh?

Adios.


nope, still here brosef.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 06:43 PM
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Good points.

It comes from worshiping false idols (like entertainers umm lady gaga, justin beiber, etc)

The Beetles (aka scarabs found in Egypt)

Hare Krishna in popular culture
en.wikipedia.org...
They use deception to get people to chant hare Krishna

More popular than Jesus
en.wikipedia.org...

The lyrics have double meanings when you realize they are followers of Aleister Crowley.

In Search Of The Great Beast 666
www.snagfilms.com...
Aleister Crowley was a man of mystery and many talents, and this documentary hopes to reveal some of his secrets to the world. Veteran Actor Joss Ackland (the Hunt For Red October) lends his voice to the famed occultist who may have lived from 1875-1947, but whose influence extends into the 21st Century.

Aleister is also associated with the Lockness Monster and one of the Rolling Stones (sympathy for devil www.youtube.com... ) bought his old house on the lake there.

LOL I don't think you read my post of an excerpt from the Thelema Book of the Law.

Not necessarily evil, but rather above it all. His teachings were about how to become your own god.

Take that how you will.
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