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Whats with these arrogant people who think aliens are demons?

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posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 09:43 AM
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Originally posted by autowrench

Originally posted by MasterGemini
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You know the same can be said of your "aliens" , otherwise you would have provided evidence of your claims.


Meanwhile, no one can show proof of Jesus, only one book even talks bout him. The proof is in the pudding. Prove to me Jesus is real, and I will prove you you ET is real. Deal?


(as i suspect you already know)
There is plenty of documented verifiable evidence that the person you refer to as Jesus existed. Along with hundreds of thousands of eyewitness testimonies from the time. However, the subject of his divinity IS and ALWAYS HAS BEEN a matter of faith and belief.

Similarly, while actual eyewitness accounts of so called "aliens" are widespread they have only been occuring in quantity and detail for oh idontknow probably less than 100 years.

The same type of actual eyewitness evidence can be found for angelic/demonic intervention... in much greater quantity and detail for THOUSANDS of years.

It's not that the name for angels/demons changed to aliens on or about Roswell. If that were the case there wouldn't be continued and increasing angel/demon sightings AS WELL AS continued and increasing alien sightings. (And I am not even counting ufo's as alien sightings, even though the rest of you are. Those may or may not be just pretty lights in the sky. They move too much like bumble-bees if you ask me.)

and if I forgot to mention it... THIS ENTIRE THREAD BELONGED IN THE RELIGION FORUM!




posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 10:03 AM
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One more waste of time thought on this endless pointless debate between the Haters and the Hopers. (Then I'll go away for the afternoon.)

This is more like the case of "munchkin cats" (First documented in the United States in 1964 but sightings occured randomly and rarely before that.) Most peoples first response to them seemed to be "Is that a cat? That can't be a cat. No, wait I guess it really is a cat. Weird. That's the strangest cat I've ever seen."

en.wikipedia.org...(cat)

It is also endlessly amusing that the faithful athiest, faithful agnostic and faithfull unbeliever's in general, constantly insist on "proof" of Jesus, yet you rarely hear Christians demanding proof of aliens.

Do you understand that this attitude is the equivilant of telling Christians that you WANT to be converted? You sound like you are BEGGING, whineing and pleading for an excuse to believe.

"Oh please Mr/Mrs Christian convince me, persuade me, give me the least little shred of evidence to cling too... please, I'm dying here without your faith..."

Duh, of course Christians rise to the challenge. Christianity is a religion of hope faith and belief isn't it? You keep screaming like a hungry child. Who wouldn't try to help a hungry child? Stop acting like children and the Christians will stop treating you as such. Until then quit complaining. Or better yet, respond to one of the Christians in the Religion forum... which is where this thread actually belongs anyhow.



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 10:44 AM
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Aliens teach a Satanic New Age religion of people worshiping Gaia. They are demons my friends. They take people out of the safety of their homes. Psychologically damage them and tell them they are the saviors of this planet and tell the abductees to spread their New Age philosophy.

Satan is doing his best to lead as many people into Hell as he can. It's a shame so many people are duped by his lies. Aliens won't save you, only Jesus Christ can my friends.



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 11:47 AM
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that we are so special we have to be IT that our God and his Son did everything Only just for US.


That is exactly correct. Isn't it wonderful how loving our God is? We were created in his image, there are no aliens.



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 11:50 AM
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So arrogant and ignorant, i was one of the several Christians debating on this thread, and i only became a follower of Christ in the last year! indoctrination from birth? I don't think so!!!



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
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that we are so special we have to be IT that our God and his Son did everything Only just for US.


That is exactly correct. Isn't it wonderful how loving our God is? We were created in his image, there are no aliens.


i hope that was sarcasm, if not i pity u too much to laugh



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 12:07 PM
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This thread isn't what I thought it would be at all.

I skimmed thru 30+ pages, and agree with what a few others have said:-
This is in the wrong forum!!!



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by CherryV
This thread isn't what I thought it would be at all.

I skimmed thru 30+ pages, and agree with what a few others have said:-
This is in the wrong forum!!!


Why? The OP is speaking about their belief vs those of us who feel like they're extra-dimensional in nature i.e. lying entities.

They abduct, they lie, and they all seem very interested in talking about--and denying--Christianity. Other faiths don't seem to concern them.

Now that could be because Christianity is the most evil thing on Earth or it could mean they are demons that wanna drag us all to hell.

For me, their actions speak louder than their empty words and broken promises. Earth has already been invaded and it's a war zone. Everyone pretty much KNOWS that something strange is going on in these times.

NOTHING has nailed both the human condition and prophecy like the Holy Bible. I know it's hard to consider with the examples given us by so many so-called Christians, but look for the ones that are full of love & light--they're out there--find out what they know: Even the tiny flame of a matchstick can push back a room full of darkness. Light wins.

No, Cherry V, I humbly beg to differ: This subject does belong here.



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 12:57 PM
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Well I have been a Christian my whole life and I would have to say I disagree with your first post..

I personally think it is arrogant of us to think we are the only life god has created..

There are a billion billion stars in our galaxy alone (that's 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars)

There are also millions, maybe billions of unreachable galaxies in the vastness of space each containing a similar number of stars... We know also that many of those stars out there have planets revolving around them just like us...

Now I'm sure you know how much god loves life.. I mean look at our planet... it's covered with it!! Every corner of the globe is alive even the most inhospitable environments...

You have to understand something... God is infinite... to god time does not exist... he created the natural rules of the universe that we have all but begun to scratch the surface of.... Science in all it's complexity (even what is still undiscovered) is his creation which includes all of physics (macro and quantum), mathematics, chemistry, biology (Natural machines are far more complex than anything we've made I'll tell you that)

Of course I am in no way saying demons do not exist, but I'm sure demons are a bit more sneaky than that...

Remember, the best trick the devil ever played was convincing the world he doesn't exist.
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posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 01:03 PM
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No, I really think, looking at the discussions, (yours included) this is more at home in the Religion Forum. Mostly yous are aguing over religion. The Alien/UFO aspect has hardly been mentioned tbh.



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by autowrench
Why is it that you Christians always call belief in other world life a hatred of God?


I've realised that my earlier argument with the Christians in this thread was wrong.

If I don't like them condemning me, and bombarding me with their usual guilt and fear, then it's just as wrong for me to condemn them in return, even if I don't like the way they treat people. I need to try and set a positive example. They will probably just ignore that, of course; but I still need to try.



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by DaMod
Of course I am in no way saying demons do not exist, but I'm sure demons are a bit more sneaky than that...

Remember, the best trick the devil ever played was convincing the world he doesn't exist.
You know, this is the best Christian "evidence" for Aliens not being Demons. There's only been 1 recorded time in human history that Demons were crawling out of the woodwork and publically exposing themselves. That is in the Bible, when they started blurting out who Christ was and the Apostles were, in public. Now granted, few if any Aliens are claiming to be Demons. But the sheer number of Alien incidents (whether believable or not) would cause me to disassociate all Aliens with Demons. It's the reaction: There can't POSSIBLY be that many. But that's a personal conclusion, not drawn from any source.


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I'm still waaaaay back on page 25. Life has a way of taking all the time you have for arguing.
Off to work.



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
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that we are so special we have to be IT that our God and his Son did everything Only just for US.


That is exactly correct. Isn't it wonderful how loving our God is? We were created in his image, there are no aliens.


We were created in his image yes, ( which can have many meanings when you go back and study the Hebrew that was written and the Hebrew definitions) But.. the Bible Never says we were the only beings created in his image.

If God created many Universes, ours being just one of His creations, why would He not populate them with other beings created in his image too? You can have your personal belief on this all you want, you cannot show that the Bible teaches this.

What is an Alien? A being not of this Earth. You believe in Angels and Demons - You believe in offspring of Angels and Demons. If that would not have been written in your Bible and you met one face to face it would be an alien. These are only the ones we know about. Even Jesus said other sheep I have that are not of this fold. You are limiting God. Why is the possibility that god created other beings for other planets in his many other universes so hard for you to grasp, especially when you cannot base that belief on what is written.



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 02:38 PM
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If there is no Evidence of such things than its common sense such things may not exist.



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by Zeer0
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If there is no Evidence of such things than its common sense such things may not exist.


I've watched you cry and beg for evidence throughout this entire thread. Yet every time someone attempted to offer you evidence you instead ignored it and refused to acknowlege it's existance.

This is the very thing you complain about. Inflamatory stubborn pointless refuseal to face the facts. There are historical facts and documentation that can be found if you would but search for them.

But none of it will prove the existance of the supernatural to you. You have too much Faith and Belief in your own personal paradigm. Yet you despise those who have Faith and Hope and Belief. My friend I weep for you. The misery you must suffer with to live such a blatent and contradictory dichotomy is likely endless.

Oh and to respond to your comment... Believing in something you have no evidence for has nothing to do with your so called common sence and everything to do with Faith, Hope and Belief. Common sense is born of experience is it not? Most Christians claim to have much personal experience with the Holy. As such it is indeed common sense for them to Believe even without tangible evidence.

As I hinted earlier you are an individual that refuses to accept your own experience and the evidence that has already been provided to you. You exhibit every symptom of those Believers that you seem to Hate so much.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks." Shakespeare, hamlett, act III



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 04:31 PM
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Thats how it works. You make a claim you back it up with Evidence. There is none here for the Radical Claims in this Theory and in Religion in General. Coincidences in numbers make Aliens Demons. Small coincidences with the UFO Phenomena and Spiritual orbs make Aliens Demons. You see how little sense this makes and the lack of real Evidence shows how radical these baseless claims are. Ive spent most of my life on the edge because i never saw how anything i was told Religion wise was true and i have yet to see any concrete Evidence. People need to wake the hell up and not believe everything they are told and look into if these claims are real or not. No Atheist were Brainwashed into their way of thinking (cant say the same for Religious Folk) we came to that conclusion based on the lack of Evidence when it comes to Religion.



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 04:49 PM
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So it's agreed then, If these Demons exist and don a cloak of 'aliens' we humans
have no idea who they really are?
Our parents and loved ones don't know, our Governments don't know and worst of all,
God allows us to remain in the dark.
Either the majority of the world is living in ignorance or a lot of humans are in on it and
just allow us to get involved in this strange world of demons/Aliens... ergo condemning
our souls to eternal damnation.


So what do we do?
Turn the tables and force these Demon-come-lil'-green-men to take the souls of Government
agencies or just start blasting and fill the void that we 'in-the-NOW-know' were supposed to fill?

Please enlighten me.



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by Zeer0
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Ive spent most of my life on the edge because i never saw how anything i was told Religion wise was true and i have yet to see any concrete Evidence.


From all of your previous post in this thread, and the general attitude of Hate that they often represent, as well as your obvious predisposal to reject everything out of hand... I can understand that you are not a person who commonly accepts anything you are "told".

Therefore I suggest you quit listening to what you've been told about religion and actually read some of the different "Holy" books out there. Find the language translations and look up definitions when something doesn't sound right. Seeing as how approximately 90% of the worlds population claims to Believe in one religion or another you should consider doing the research for yourself. Don't listen to them, find out for yourself. Until then you are simply upset because other people have "told" you something that doesn't sound right.

Before you begin, accept the fact that there is concrete evidence of many events, people and places that are portrayed in these different "Holy" books. But there will never be any tangible proof of divinity.

You are seeking proof of that which cannot be proven. You are seeking understanding and enlightenment of what it is that the rest of the world seems to understand yet you resist and fight back against with every fiber of your being. These are answers that you will never be "told" and must experience for yourself. And that brings us right back to "Common Sense is born of experience. If you want it you must seek it."

Percentage of World Population:

Christianity 32%
Islam 23%
Hinduism 14%
Buddhism 23%
sub-total 92%

Other : 8%

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
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So you are believing what occultist's tell you now and would rather rely on there word rather then say the bible?


Hate to tell you but....the Bible is considered by some to be a mechanism for a method of control of the populous for the purpose of the self declared Religious Leadership....ie....A CULT! Split Infinity



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 06:45 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
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Oh so all people who choose not to believe in the religion of alienism are now "religious nutjobs" according to your wisdom... What about the atheist's who disbelieve in aliens? I'm sure there are some.

You've shown your true colours of having a hatred of God by the way you categorised all people who refute the alien myth. Aliens and demons are one of the same, but that doesn't make demons "ET's".

Suggesting that they are ET's means that they are apart of our universe and inhabit another planet with there own civilisation, like something out of starwars, which just simply isn't the case. Demons/fallen angels were originally part of heaven until they were expelled and fell from above. They are apart of the angelic kingdom, thus not limited to our physical universe per say, although i do think they can manifest so that we can see them, they will usually try to deceive humans.

And for anyone thinking being a Christian makes you apart of an organized religion then your wrong. Its only a religion if you make it be one, but that's not what was originally intended. Christ came to expose all false religions and teach us that all we need to be in touch with God is to have a personal relationship with him. Christianity set apart from all other religions because it is the infallible truth and inspired word of God.


Just so your know....since you site the Bible many times as a source of proof of your statements....the Bible is incomplete since the Vatican REFUSES....to publish the Gospel of Mary Magdalen....of Judas and others. In a few of these gospels.....the concept of Christ being a SON OF GOD....is specifically defined that it is his actions and beliefs and way of living life that makes him so and that ANYONE who follows this path is ALSO A SON OF GOD!

No wonder why they won't publish. Split Infinity....ps....Oh YA!....E.T. has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH DEMONS! I KNOW THIS AS FACT...as I have been there.




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