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Whats with these arrogant people who think aliens are demons?

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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by Zeer0
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That seems logical because Ancient Man probably couldn't comprehend such things so they labeled these ET's Gods/Angles/Demons etc.


It's actually the other way around.

When Aleister Crowley summoned a demon with his magickal ceromonies it looked exactly like a typical "Grey Alien." (we know this because he drew a painting of the being, named Lam)

Crowley even said back then in the early 1900's something along the lines of "Today we call them angels and demons, tomorrow they will be called something else..." (space aliens)

What is happening is that modern man is incorrectly labeling these demonic entities as space aliens.

They aren't space aliens, they are extradimensional, and that is why we are able to conjure them and interact with them via magick.




posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by Zeer0



And if anything the Government would show these high tech technology to show they world how far we have come in Aviation so thats rubbish.
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Actually no, the governments would not reveal their free-energy and anti-gravity technologies because it would instantly destroy their plan for a dictatorial world government.

Free energy would literally end poverty... no one would even need oil anymore, do you actually think the trillionaire oil cabals are going to let something like that happen? lol, yea right!



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by Zeer0
reply to post by Diplomat
 


Such things have been said to go 6 MPS. I dont think thats possible when Aviation is so young

Yes i know about the Nazi Saucer Projects. And one of the leading Scientists that was brought from Germany said they got help from "Them"

Any coincidence that Hitler's Master Race was tall Blonde Hair, Blue Eyed people when he was neither of that?


And if anything the Government would show these high tech technology to show they world how far we have come in Aviation so thats rubbish.
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Yes, they called them Aryans

Aryans = From Aries = Aries = Mars

Have you read about the Moonchild
en.wikipedia.org...



Plot summary

A year or so before the beginning of World War I, a young woman named Lisa la Giuffria is seduced by a white magician, Cyril Grey, and persuaded into helping him in a magical battle with a black magician and his black lodge. Grey is attempting to raise the level of his force by impregnating the girl with the soul of an ethereal being — the moonchild. To achieve this, she will have to be kept in a secluded environment, and many preparatory magical rituals will be carried out. The black magician Douglas is bent on destroying Grey’s plan. However, Grey's ultimate motives may not be what they appear. The moonchild rituals are carried out in southern Italy, but the occult organizations are based in Paris and England. At the end of the book, the war breaks out, and the white magicians support the Allies, while the black magicians support the Central Powers.


Lam
www.boudillion.com...
(Image of Lam the being Aleister channeled while meditating in the pyramids)

First Earth Battalion
en.wikipedia.org...

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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 09:08 PM
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The only thing was similar was the big head. The eyes were not big and black and sightings of Greys do not depict these beings wearing Cloths. You were close but not spot on


Your quote sums up what im saying. We used to call them Angles/Demons but now we know they were ET's that were misinterpreted for the Divine.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 09:09 PM
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Lets not turn this into a NWO thread. No such things Exist

I got school in the morning so im going to go to bed. We'll continue tomorrow.


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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 09:09 PM
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Originally posted by Zeer0
reply to post by Diplomat
 


The only thing was similar was the big head. The eyes were not big and black and sightings of Greys do not depict these beings wearing Cloths. You were close but not spot on


Your quote sums up what im saying. We used to call them Angles/Demons but now we know they were ET's that were misinterpreted for the Divine.


If they were space aliens then how would they be conjured up in a magickal ceremony? lol

If they are actual physical creatures wouldn't they first have to travel here in some sort of spaceship or something?

People like Crowley who conjure these entities never say anything about them climbing out of their spaceships lol....



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 09:09 PM
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"We have countless videos of spiritual "orb" looking things flying around in the sky, to just name one type of UFO phenomenon... Those orbs look much more like a spiritual phenomenon to me rather than physical metal alien spaceships."

How do you know what spiritual phenomena looks like?
That would be an opinion not evidence/truth/fact.
why would space alien space craft fit human criteria ie: metallic.
They could be organic or synthetic or even pure energy. They could use spiritual means to travel and explore like astral projection.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by Zeer0
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Lets not turn this into a NWO thread. No such things Exist

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You're right, the New World Order does not exist yet...

But we all know that there is indeed an agenda to set it up... it's in the works right now before our eyes.

Hopefully you're not THAT ignorant, given that we are on a pretty popular conspiracy forum where things like that should be common knowledge by now.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by Raivan31
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"We have countless videos of spiritual "orb" looking things flying around in the sky, to just name one type of UFO phenomenon... Those orbs look much more like a spiritual phenomenon to me rather than physical metal alien spaceships."

How do you know what spiritual phenomena looks like?
That would be an opinion not evidence/truth/fact.
why would space alien space craft fit human criteria ie: metallic.
They could be organic or synthetic or even pure energy. They could use spiritual means to travel and explore like astral projection.


Well I know what physical beings look like, because I have our own race to base that off... and I have yet to see any evidence of physical space aliens visiting our planet.

I have, however, seen plenty of evidence of some sort of weird spiritual, extradimensional, whatever word you want to use..... in our skies. They are like lights, transparent, can morph into one and then back into multiple lights... etc..... sounds "spiritual" to me.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 09:11 PM
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I could say that the alien known as ptuk also known as enki of the sumer time period around the city of ur. Him and ninighursag his assitant where the alien scientist that designed our DNA, and gave humans tons of knowledge from fire to cultivating the ground, to medicines from herbs, to building vast stone cities among other stuff.

Most folks of the religious persusion typically identify ptuk also known as enki as the devil. I always found it interresting that this alien scientist, who designed our DNA, and cared about his experiment enough to leave humans with a warehouse of knowlege would be shown as the evil one. That dosn't sound evil to me, in fact it sounds the opposite.

Think of it this way, your a human living in a cave herding goats, and a glowing ship appears out of the sky sets down and out comes aliens in space suits. Lets say one uses a energy device and a beam shoots out and catches some wood on fire.. To the basic human which never seen fire before these aliens would be ..
GODS..
Cause only GODS could make the tree burn with a beam of holy fire, or lightning from fingertips, or touching someone with a strange metal disk and healing there injuries..
So my point is. If you took a 2011 human put him or her in a space suit, gave him/her energy weapons, hand held health monitors and other things like your basic hand held pc, sent them back in time to the stone age.

What do you think would happen? The stone age humans would see them as GODS..and the whole paradox would begin over again...

Aliens arn't demons or angels, or gods.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by Raivan31
reply to post by Diplomat
 


"We have countless videos of spiritual "orb" looking things flying around in the sky, to just name one type of UFO phenomenon... Those orbs look much more like a spiritual phenomenon to me rather than physical metal alien spaceships."

How do you know what spiritual phenomena looks like?
That would be an opinion not evidence/truth/fact.
why would space alien space craft fit human criteria ie: metallic.
They could be organic or synthetic or even pure energy. They could use spiritual means to travel and explore like astral projection.


It is pretty safe to assume that man has the technology today to mimic the physical UFOs



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 09:15 PM
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Originally posted by Caioneach

There are religions that existed at one point that said aliens not only were not demons but actually helped humans in development. Many of them were curiously enough destroyed and nearly erased forever by christianity.


Where is your proof of this?



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 09:16 PM
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How could a race of extremely advanced benevolent space aliens come to our planet and not do anything to help?

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that our world is a terrible place where terrible things happen to people on a daily basis. Most of the world lives in poverty while .01% lives in luxury.

Why have these space aliens done absolutely nothing to help us move forward?

Why would they play hide and go seek from us in our skies for centuries?

lol, it makes NO sense!

But it does start to make sense when you realize that THERE ARE NO BENEVOLENT SPACE ALIENS HERE. We would ALL KNOW. They would be all over our cities helping and teaching everyone, they would have taken over everything easily because obviously if they are advanced enough to travel here they are far more superior than any Earth military or government.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 09:24 PM
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"It is pretty safe to assume that man has the technology today to mimic the physical UFOs"

Well mostly, I'm not yet convinced that we can deal with high G forces. But I *Think* that we could produce a pretty convincing facsimile, just without high G turns and such.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by Raivan31
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"It is pretty safe to assume that man has the technology today to mimic the physical UFOs"

Well mostly, I'm not yet convinced that we can deal with high G forces. But I *Think* that we could produce a pretty convincing facsimile, just without high G turns and such.


The 90 degree turns at 9,000mph are possible because those are not physical alien spacecrafts that we're talking about..... they are some sort of extradimensional phenomenon... THAT is why they are able to move like that.

Obviously 3 little green men could never make a 90 degree turn at 9,000mph in their tiny little metal dish thing...



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 09:30 PM
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You should look into Crowley and L. Ron Hubbard opening up a portal and the creature LAM coming out from their Amalantrah Working. He looks like an alien and their occult ritual was done in 1940's. www.conspiracyarchive.com...

Then Roswell happened. Coincidence? I think not. Aliens are demonic they abduct and violate people. That is far from being benevolent.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 09:30 PM
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Yes and the recent announcement from NASA about their android now "coming alive" could work with this.

What is a Robonaut?
robonaut.jsc.nasa.gov...



In the current iteration of Robonaut, Robonaut 2 or R2, NASA and General Motors are working together with assistance from Oceaneering Space Systems engineers to accelerate development of the next generation of robots and related technologies for use in R2 20 pound weight, Robonaut the automotive and aerospace industries.


Remember before 9/11 Rumsfeld announced that the pentagon could not acount for 2.3 trillion dollars?

The War On Waste
www.cbsnews.com...



(CBS) On Sept. 10, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld declared war. Not on foreign terrorists, "the adversary's closer to home. It's the Pentagon bureaucracy," he said.

He said money wasted by the military poses a serious threat. "In fact, it could be said it's a matter of life and death," he said. Rumsfeld promised change but the next day – Sept. 11-- the world changed and in the rush to fund the war on terrorism, the war on waste seems to have been forgotten.

Just last week President Bush announced, "my 2003 budget calls for more than $48 billion in new defense spending." More money for the Pentagon, CBS News Correspondent Vince Gonzales reports, while its own auditors admit the military cannot account for 25 percent of what it spends. "According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions," Rumsfeld admitted. $2.3 trillion — that's $8,000 for every man, woman and child in America. To understand how the Pentagon can lose track of trillions, consider the case of one military accountant who tried to find out what happened to a mere $300 million.

"We know it's gone. But we don't know what they spent it on," said Jim Minnery, Defense Finance and Accounting Service.


Wonder what we could do with 2.3 trillion in black ops funding?


Umm things that require patches like these?
I Could Tell You But Then You Would Have to be Destroyed by Me: The Pentagon’s Black World ,
www.abovetopsecret.com...

(especially the Silence behind the green door patch)
-Star in the east under the S is Sirius (sirius b, even Douglas Adams knew that)
-other star in the American southwest (33rd parallel? Some secret base?)
-the green creature on the front with the edged weapon

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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 09:46 PM
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Originally posted by rumor21

Originally posted by Caioneach

There are religions that existed at one point that said aliens not only were not demons but actually helped humans in development. Many of them were curiously enough destroyed and nearly erased forever by christianity.


Where is your proof of this?


Mayan beliefs seem to suggest help from powerful beings from the sky, Quetzecotyl (or however you spell it)



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 09:47 PM
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They're called "Christians"

ahaha.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by dannotz
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They're called "Christians"

ahaha.


Really? It's just that simple?

You obviously haven't read anything in this thread, especially the parts which explained that this phenomenon transcends all "religions," it is not a "Christian" thing.... even the Muslim's Quran mentions extradimensional entities called the DJINN.

So why aren't you posting little smily faces with tongues sticking out for all the Muslims as well? Maybe you just have something against Christians, can't tell.



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