Whats with these arrogant people who think aliens are demons?

Why would Christians would think aliens were demons? Simple reason is that Christianity has it's end times to worry about. And this guy.

Daniel 8.
23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
26 And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days.

Daniel 11
36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.


Also when this end times is reached it's said that God removes his protection upon this world. Which would explain why if their is actually aliens out there that's why they haven't made their presence known to the world. A powerful ticked off God would prevent it from happening.

Something the atheists need to realize is that you are getting descriptions from people 2 to 3 thousand years ago. You may poo-poo demons but the warnings could be valid. Who can really tell from thousands of years old chicken scratchings in stone and metal. But I would point out this detail from the bible.

Hosea 6
1 Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

Now refer it to this verse. Which is based on Psalms 90-4

2nd Peter 3
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Put simply the world was cut off from God and the world of angels/demons for approximately 2000 years. My best guess this time period ends no later than 2028. Who knows. Mybe you'll get to see some demons in this lifetime?

reply to post by MasterGemini


No Facts. Not only does your linking up coincidences and spewing Fantasy not prove any sliver of a chance that Aliens are Demons, your really showing me what Religion does to people. Brainwashes them and makes people live in a world where anything other than their religion is deemed either to be impossible or Demonic and its sad that people still believe in this. And its even more sad that you have to try to dumb down the study of Unidentified Flying Objects with this Coincidence Based, Fantasy Spewing, Fallacious Nonsense. Do you actually have anything else that I can even take serious to show me? Because this is getting quite ridiculous.

reply to post by MasterGemini


Well where does it leave us then? Which group has our best interests at heart?
daemons may be benevolent but it doesn't make them right.
Are we inherently good or evil?
Are any of these possible entities inherently good or evil?
What is the intrest in us? in couldn't be just to kill us or we'd all be gone already.
Do the Daemons battle the Demons?
Do non Daemons/Demon entities (ie space/pan dimensional) have allegiances one way or the other?

How arrogant do you have to be to post this? Uhm, the last time I checked no one has shaken hands with an alien (that we know of) sooo based on that I'm guessing we dont know what aliens are. They could be extra terrestrial chipmunks for all we know.
For the most part people are not linking religious demons as aliens, yet 'demons' in a broad term to describe them. I am absolutely not religious but I have had a run in with what I would consider a demon a few times.
Arrogant.. fail

reply to post by Zeer0


Care to post any evidence to the contrary?

No? Just going to bash religions, then me?

Originally posted by Raivan31
reply to post by MasterGemini

 

Well where does it leave us then? Which group has our best interests at heart?
daemons may be benevolent but it doesn't make them right.
Are we inherently good or evil?
Are any of these possible entities inherently good or evil?
What is the intrest in us? in couldn't be just to kill us or we'd all be gone already.
Do the Daemons battle the Demons?
Do non Daemons/Demon entities (ie space/pan dimensional) have allegiances one way or the other?

LoL ummmmm

1 - safe bet to never ever sell your soul.

2 - idk you are on your own

reply to post by MasterGemini


Im not the one making the claims. The Burden of providing evidence is you. Charles Darwin had to provide Evidence for Evolution, Alfred Wegener had to show Evidence for Pangea. What makes you any different? Oh right your sources are from Fairy Tales and coincidences in numbers...right

And yes im going to bash you until you show Evidence. Which you have shown no hard facts.

Originally posted by Zeer0
reply to post by MasterGemini

 

No Facts. Not only does your linking up coincidences and spewing Fantasy not prove any sliver of a chance that Aliens are Demons, your really showing me what Religion does to people. Brainwashes them and makes people live in a world where anything other than their religion is deemed either to be impossible or Demonic and its sad that people still believe in this. And its even more sad that you have to try to dumb down the study of Unidentified Flying Objects with this Coincidence Based, Fantasy Spewing, Fallacious Nonsense. Do you actually have anything else that I can even take serious to show me? Because this is getting quite ridiculous.

Well consider the possibility that the old religious documents are not intentionally misleading, What would that mean? If we experiment by assuming that 'demons' is a name given to hostile entities,

Originally posted by Zeer0
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Im not the one making the claims. The Burden of providing evidence is you. Charles Darwin had to provide Evidence for Evolution, Alfred Wegener had to show Evidence for Pangea. What makes you any different? Oh right your sources are from Fairy Tales and coincidences in numbers...right

And yes im going to bash you until you show Evidence. Which you have shown no hard facts.

Yes Aleister Crowley, Jack Parsons, L Ron Hubbard, Nicholas Roerich are all make believe fantasy

reply to post by Zeer0


Trying to tell someone their religion is wrong is usually as successful as telling kids santa isnt real. Oh of course, I forgot its the same thing!

reply to post by Raivan31


Religions have been proven wrong over and over again and will continued to be proven false. But people still believe in such silly stories and even try to give them Logic when there is none.

reply to post by Raivan31


You want to look into the Jinn from the Koran
en.wikipedia.org...

Jinn is a word of the collective number in Arabic, derived from the Arabic root ǧ-n-n meaning 'to hide' or 'be hidden'. Other words derived from this root are maǧnūn 'mad' (literally, 'one whose intellect is hidden'), ǧunūn 'madness', and ǧanīn 'embryo, fetus' ('hidden inside the womb').[3]

The Arabic root ǧ-n-n means 'to hide, conceal'. A word for garden or Paradise, جنّة ǧannah, is a cognate of the Hebrew word גן gan 'garden', derived from the same Semitic root. In arid climates, gardens have to be protected against desertification by walls; this is the same concept as in the word "paradise" from pairi-daêza, an Avestan word for garden that literally means 'having walls built around'. Thus the protection of a garden behind walls implies its being hidden from the outside.

Arabic lexicons such as Edward William Lane's Arabic-English Lexicon define ǧinn not only as spirits, but also anything concealed through time, status, and even physical darkness.[4] . The word genie in English is derived from Latin genius, which meant a sort of tutelary or guardian spirit thought to be assigned to each person at their birth. English borrowed the French descendant of this word, génie; its earliest written attestation in English, in 1655, is a plural spelled "genyes." The French translators of The Book of One Thousand and One Nights used génie as a translation of jinnī because it was similar to the Arabic word in sound and in meaning. This use was also adopted in English and has since become dominant.

Many cultural interpretations noted the Jinn as having distinct male and females, they would often appear wearing vests and sashes, various interpretations note that they tied their hair long vertically and most probably had some or no facial hair. According to various stories Jinn could exist independently or bound to any particular object. In Arabic, the word ǧinn is in the collective number, translated in English as plural (e.g., "several genies"); ǧinnī is in the singulative number, used to refer to one individual, which is translated by the singular in English (e.g., "one genie"). Therefore, the word 'jinn' in English writing is treated as a plural.

reply to post by MasterGemini


Are these all the people you claimed were worshiping the Devil right? If so i would like to see Evidence of how this would even correlate with the UFO Phenomenon.

Originally posted by ka119
reply to post by Zeer0

 

Trying to tell someone their religion is wrong is usually as successful as telling kids santa isnt real. Oh of course, I forgot its the same thing!

The best part is when they accuse people of practicing a religion which they don't, kind of like the witch hunts by the dominicans in the roman catholic church.

reply to post by MasterGemini


Didnt you just accuse like 20 people of being satanists in this thread or am i wrong?

MasterGemini needs to learn about a principle called sympathetic resonance. In other words, you get what you expect, and if you look for demonic extraterrestrials, you will find them.

MG, I am not interested in your unrestrained fearmongering, and I suspect few others here are, either. I'm also not interested in your regurgitation of the vile, spiritually degraded beliefs or practices of Aleister Crowley.

Constant appeals to guilt and fear were the primary reason why I renounced formal Christianity in 2007. When people call themselves Christian, yet spend far more of their time focusing on and talking about Satan and demons, not to mention Thelemite spiritual pornography, what does that say about what they really believe?

It is a Hindu proverb that Man becomes that which he worships. You would be very wise, MasterGemini, to think carefully about where your mind chooses to spend the majority of its' time. If it resides in the gutter, then your spirit will inevitably follow.

Originally posted by petrus4
MasterGemini needs to learn about a principle called sympathetic resonance. In other words, you get what you expect, and if you look for demonic extraterrestrials, you will find them.

MG, I am not interested in your unrestrained fearmongering, and I suspect few others here are, either. I'm also not interested in your regurgitation of the vile, spiritually degraded beliefs or practices of Aleister Crowley.

Constant appeals to guilt and fear were the primary reason why I renounced formal Christianity in 2007. When people call themselves Christian, yet spend far more of their time focusing on and talking about Satan and demons, not to mention Thelemite spiritual pornography, what does that say about what they really believe?

It is a Hindu proverb that Man becomes that which he worships. You would be very wise, MasterGemini, to think carefully about where your mind chooses to spend the majority of its' time. If it resides in the gutter, then the rest of you will inevitably follow.

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Sorry, how am I fear mongering?

Originally posted by Zeer0
reply to post by MasterGemini

 

Didnt you just accuse like 20 people of being satanists in this thread or am i wrong?

care to provide some specifics or are you just going to generalize everything?

Originally posted by MasterGemini

Originally posted by ka119
reply to post by Zeer0

 

Trying to tell someone their religion is wrong is usually as successful as telling kids santa isnt real. Oh of course, I forgot its the same thing!

The best part is when they accuse people of practicing a religion which they don't, kind of like the witch hunts by the dominicans in the roman catholic church.

edit on 6-9-2011 by MasterGemini because: (no reason given)

Im not sure if that was directed at me or others in this discussion. Im all about people believing what they will, whatever gets you through the day. I will absolutely entertain someones thoughts, its when someone attempts the tell others there wrong where the line has to be drawn.

To the people who still don't get it: This is much deeper than any one "religion." It transcends them all.

I'm not even "religious," more like "agnostic," but after over a decade of obsessive research I am pretty convinced that we are dealing with some sort of spiritual phenomenon here, not a space alien phenomenon.