Colorado School Comes Under Fire for Hanging Saudi Flag Higher Than American Flag

Originally posted by Bobbob
One word.

Petty.

If all you have to worry about is a piece of cloth, when every other day of your life you let the constitution just be trampled over.

Why do you care about the piece of cloth when you don't care about the constitution?

Now, back to your cubicle and get back to work and pay your bills.

edit on 5-9-2011 by Bobbob because: (no reason given)

There is no more constitution. The constitution as it was meant to be ended in the Civil War, most people just don't bother to learn history anymore or "read between the lines". There is no more U.S., China owns this country so start learning chinese and mandarin, and the U.S. flag means absolutely bup-kiss now, its a faded memory of an ideal that died when we started getting involved in the worlds affairs.

Now we are the worlds police force, and we take care of every other country but our own. We feed and clothe every other country out there and we have people in New York City living in cardboard boxes and many of our children are starving because all our jobs went overseas thanks to Bill Clinton and his NAFTA agreement, and parents can barely afford to feed their families.

We cant even protect our borders. The mexican drug cartels have overrun Phoenix, AZ and U.S. citizens are being gunned down in the streets, and where is our government when we need it? Therye on campaign trails looking pretty for the cameras while U.S. citizens are being murdered in the steets oh Phoenix and Tuscon.

I hate to say it fellow americans, but I simple can't muster up the will to care about this POS country or it's flag anymore. I feel we have sailed upon a course of which their is no steering back. all that flag is now is a painful, blood stained, reminder of what used to be. hell, our flag isn't even made in this country anymore FFS!!!

though I won't lie, if I'd come across that scene, I would of promptly dropped my pants and wiped my backside with the saudi flag.

Originally posted by Paschar0
It's more than a little telling reading how different people react to the same event. Symbolism is important to some and meaningless to others. If there were a Darwinian chart for true awareness and clarity of what's really important, I can't help but wonder where we'd all place.

So many factors play a role in any given outlook. I'd like to see that chart myself :-)

Originally posted by Intelearthling
reply to post by Bobbob

 

It's really a shame you have nothing more to contribute than to ridicule a belief of a person.

Go tell the families of the men and women who die for the flag that it's just 'a piece of cloth'.

The flag is a symbol and has meaning. Somehow, I believe trying to explain this to you would be useless.

don't forget iwo jima

en.wikipedia.org...
a classic pic

Originally posted by Bobbob
One word.

Petty.

If all you have to worry about is a piece of cloth, when every other day of your life you let the constitution just be trampled over.

Why do you care about the piece of cloth when you don't care about the constitution?

Now, back to your cubicle and get back to work and pay your bills.

edit on 5-9-2011 by Bobbob because: (no reason given)

Word.. "petty".. like bridesmaids cackling over the brides napkin selection.

Strangers express opinions.. about... colored cloth on a stick arrangement... lol.. sensationalized into "school comes under fire".. ridiculous.

Originally posted by Shamatt
Don't turn it into a story about being forced into flying someone elses flag. I would also be against such rediculous laws. But that is not this story.

ok, forced was a strong word, however i still dont think a public school administrator should feel compelled for any reason to fly another countries flag at all.

a public school is a state institution, not a us embassy on foreign soil.

reply to post by Signals


Our flag is worth nothing.

How can any intelligent person thing that this is important?

Originally posted by Intelearthling
reply to post by Bobbob

 

Go tell the families of the men and women who die for the flag that it's just 'a piece of cloth'.

soldiers do not "die for the flag" - they fight die for their comrades

The flag is a symbol and has meaning. Somehow, I believe trying to explain this to you would be useless.

I dont' think anyone has a problem with understanding that - even if they disagree with the meaning.

However in this case the symbol representing the USA was NOT being disrespected - it was accidentally left in the wrong position, it was restored, and hte mistake was apologised for.

GET OVER IT!!

don't forget iwo jima

A staged photo shoot supports why this Flag obsession is illogical.

Originally posted by snarfbot

Originally posted by Shamatt
Don't turn it into a story about being forced into flying someone elses flag. I would also be against such rediculous laws. But that is not this story.

ok, forced was a strong word, however i still dont think a public school administrator should feel compelled for any reason to fly another countries flag at all.

a public school is a state institution, not a us embassy on foreign soil.

I can see your reasoning. But I personaly think it is a brilliant gesture to fly a flag to represent each and every nationality which is present in the school. I think this would bring people together. I think it should be encouraged, as a sign of respect for each other.

Happy to differ with you though if you don't see that?

reply to post by FrenchOsage


wasn't staged.


sorry.


i respect someone who flys an upside down flag, it tells me they are disappointed in the country.

desecrate or burn it?

not so much even tho it's legal to do.

to put another flag over "old glory" in the US is wrong.

flags? i guess no one ever seen a kurosawa movie or a chinese or russian or north korean military parade.

lol!! put the stars and stripes above one of dem "pieces of cloth"

eta; i have 2 flags from the funerals of my relatives.

reply to post by Signals


I agree with you guys, the American Flag is a beacon of light and represents the American people not the Government. I servered my country and flag proudly and I am really angry at this. You have to stand for something, those of you who dont care apparently stand for nothing...some advice go back to watching startrek next gen...

marine sniper

Personally I would like to know how this happened. I remember throughout grade-school it was students who hoisted and lowered the flags, so I figured it was possible that this was done by one of them.

However, the response from the school's principal seems to suggest otherwise, namely that this was done by someone who knew what they were doing. I bet if the principal was from Saudi Arabia, or any other Middle Eastern country, people would have gone even crazier over this issue.

So I am not really sure how or why this happened, and I think we must know that to properly lay blame, as well as to figure out the appropriate reaction from the public at large. There are all kinds of weird rules for flags, including state flags, but I thought everyone knew that no flag could be flown higher than the national flag.

I mean, any state flag can be flown at the same level as the US flag, and some of you may disagree with me, but I am right, as long as the positional requirements are met, but this flag was flown higher instead of even with the US flag. It wouldn't matter anyway, as the outrage would have been the same in my opinion. I just do not see how any competent adult could have made this mistake.

That leads me to believe if it were an adult who either did this, or made the decision to do this, they did so for a reason. Was it to make a political statement? Or possibly just to outrage and get a rise out of the public? I don't know, and the only way I could dismiss this as being not a big deal is if it were a student who did this, either not knowing, or just being a stupid kid, lol.

Although it may seem petty to some, if this was done purposefully, there still isn't much that can be done about it. It is probably a conspiracy though, foreshadowing events to come. The Saudis are going to invade. Run for the hills! To my knowledge there is not any legal action that can be taken against the school or person(s) responsible.

reply to post by FrenchOsage


You know the more I think about it the more I want a WW3, if nothing more than to purge this world of the weaklings and supposed enlightened intellectuals who are full of crap. Because at the end of the day your survival would depend on your ability to defend your self with weapons and a willingness to survive...call it getting rid of the weak stand for nothing go through your day (as long as you get your desert coffee) supporting nothing...simple empty shells trying to find a date on eharmony....lmao

marine sniper

wasn't staged. sorry.

Please. It WAS staged. I thought that was common knowledge?

Regardless, this flag obsession goes back to Romans (at least).

Forget the flag and focus on what was done by those carrying the flag. Truth is that their deeds were abhorrent most of the time. Like the Roman Eagle it was carried into battle to further the interests of those who profited from murder.

If you haven't sorted that out there may be no hope for you;.

There's a photo in the original local news paper article - looks to me like the US flag's pole or support is broken & the article itself is much better written than the Fox sensationalism.

Way to go Fox and ultra-nationalist d-heads!!

reply to post by Signals


More Fox News manufactured controversy. If only there were multiple wars being fought as we speak, then we could have something to report on besides some elementary accidentally hanging one flag higher than another. Nurturing xenophobic paranoia is apparently the most important goal of Fox News.

reply to post by Bobbob


You're petty. You're nothing. You're just a name on the internet. Criticize my flag, and I'll criticize your existence.

reply to post by Shamatt


Are you kidding me? Lol. Why don't you move to Saudi Arabia if you love it so much, then tell your daughter to walk to the grocery store alone to get you some beer and see what happens. It's a wonder you have so many stars, they were probably paid for in ignorance and selling out to morons.

edit: Remember what happened when that college hippie at a Louisiana University tried to burn the flag in public, and announced he was going to do it? Hundreds showed up and protested, yelled at him, called him names, scared the bajesus out of him, and he got escorted away by police, fearing his safety.

When I was in elementary school I was given the honor to hang the flags up everyday. We were told everyday three simple rules.

1.) The American flag always goes first and it's storming outside - we were to leave class and take it down.
2.) Don't let it go upside down ever.
3.) Do not let it touch the ground.

I can't believe they put another countries flag ahead of our own. This is the US and the US flag should always come first on our land.