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Originally posted by burdman30ott6
Originally posted by Kicking2bears
And then like every other law enforcement officer I've ever met they turned coward and spoke the first BS excuse that came to mind.
The vast majority of LEOs are good men & women who put their asses in the center sights of this country's true cowards, criminal bastards who would shoot you between the eyes for the $5 bill in your wallet and the iPod on your belt in a heartbeat. Sorry, I've seen enough of the world and heard enough people make broadly painted anti-police statements to recognize whose wearing the real yellow streak down their backs... and it isn't the guys wearing the badges.
Reasonable suspicion is a legal standard of proof in United States law that is less than probable cause, the legal standard for arrests and warrants, but more than an "inchoate and un-particularized suspicion or 'hunch' " it must be based on "specific and articulate facts", "taken together with rational inferences from those facts".en.wikipedia.org...
Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by IamCorrect
Probable cause means you are probably doing something illegal and reasonable cause means they have enough
...to suspect either a hazardous and life threatening situation OR wrongdoing - for example a joint in plain sight or reasonable cause might even be the smell of propane and it does give them permission to force ably enter your house. Sad but true.
also, if an officer is walking past your place and can clearly see in the window that a crime is being committed, such as you are sitting there doing drugs in "plain view," on your own couch in your own home, they may enter immediately, without a warrant.
i know what the "plain view doctrine" is - i went to law school, i thought i made that clear. what i asked was if YOU did.
Now suppose instead that police officers are on routine foot patrol when they observe a bale of marijuana through a window in Peter's home. Having seen the contraband in plain view, may they enter the home and seize it? The answer is emphatically no. The plain view doctrine permits seizure of an item while police are engaged in a lawful intrusion--- which in the case of entry into a private home means that (absent exigent circumstances) a warrant must be obtained. The observation that the police made through the window must be presented in a warrant affidavit to a magistrate who decides whether probable cause has been made out and, if so, what the scope of the search will be. [....] The plain view doctrine is triggered only 'after' the officers have otherwise lawfully entered the premises; it does not provide justification for the entry.
Originally posted by thermalburn
Officers are allowed to enter if they have probable cause.
A robbery in progress is probable cause; if they were sincere about it, then they were legitimately trying to protect you.