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Originally posted by romanmel
reply to post by MidnightTide
Congress should have allowed the banks to fail. Congress could then take the trillions given to the off-shore banks in 2008-10 and paid off every mortgage outstanding whether past due or not. Think how the economy would have been stimulated with all that consumer spending, when they have no more mortgage payments to make. Result would be new banks to replace the old and FULL employment..
Posting in a Democrat thread - hey guys.....so all us conservatives are evil buggers, what do you liberal folk suggest to solve this mess - how do you eliminate poverty? Please tell me something that doesn't involve taxing the wealthy, take all their money, your still not going to solve this mess.
Originally posted by MidnightTide
reply to post by romanmel
As long as I get a free house as well.
Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
reply to post by illuminatislave
You bring up a great point. If I had all of the answers I would be somewhere other than ATS. Here is a scenario for you... If you rent an apartment and I own a house, should you be allowed to vote on anything that has to do with how property taxes are collected and spent? I would argue no, because you don't pay property taxes, so why should you get a say in how they are spent. Now if I decide to sell my house and rent an apartment, then I should lose my "right" to vote on property taxes, and if you stop renting and buy a house then you should gain the "right" to vote on property taxes. Now back to your point, and again, it was a good one... Perhaps a 5 or 7 year tax history should be taken into account in order for someone to be eligible to vote. I do see your point, because as more and more people become unemployed and remain unemployed, then that is less and less voters that could vote out the very politicians that are responsible for the unemployment. It would take smarter people than you or I to figure all of the nuances out. I'm speaking of those people that are leeches on the system. I'm talking about those people that have no "skin in the game", and have never had any skin in the game. If someone is recently unemployed then they obviously had skin in the game and no longer do due to no fault of their own (in most cases), so they should be allowed to vote and one way to determine their eligibility would be IRS records. The first step that needs to be taken is amending the Constitution and rewording or repealing the 26th amendment.
Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
reply to post by illuminatislave
You bring up a great point. If I had all of the answers I would be somewhere other than ATS. Here is a scenario for you... If you rent an apartment and I own a house, should you be allowed to vote on anything that has to do with how property taxes are collected and spent? I would argue no, because you don't pay property taxes, so why should you get a say in how they are spent. Now if I decide to sell my house and rent an apartment, then I should lose my "right" to vote on property taxes, and if you stop renting and buy a house then you should gain the "right" to vote on property taxes.
Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
reply to post by illuminatislave
You bring up a great point. If I had all of the answers I would be somewhere other than ATS. Here is a scenario for you... If you rent an apartment and I own a house, should you be allowed to vote on anything that has to do with how property taxes are collected and spent? I would argue no, because you don't pay property taxes, so why should you get a say in how they are spent. Now if I decide to sell my house and rent an apartment, then I should lose my "right" to vote on property taxes, and if you stop renting and buy a house then you should gain the "right" to vote on property taxes. Now back to your point, and again, it was a good one... Perhaps a 5 or 7 year tax history should be taken into account in order for someone to be eligible to vote.
Originally posted by romanmel
Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
Stopping poor people voting strikes me as very 'American' in a way.
Although not so much the 'poor' - but stopping those who are a drain or parasitical upon the system from voting themselves a free lunch, is only commonsense....
Oh, then if we are going to stop "...those who are a drain or parasitical upon the system from voting " we should include all banks, lawyers, politicians and corporate whores who are getting tax breaks and in many cases pay no taxes at all.
This is the very reason I no longer identify with the Republican party. It has become vindictive and elitist to the point that unless you are rich, you are nothing but "useless eaters" as Hitler refered to them. Both parties are dominated by facist elitists, IMO. To vote in US national elections is a waste of time. No choices.