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Originally posted by smithjustinb
So then what is length? Is it knowledge?
If length is knowledge, then what is a single point? Intelligence?
Originally posted by EmilNomel
a line is an infinite set of points...
a point does not exist, it's a concept, it's very much like the zero in your "mathematics is wrong" thread...
i think your point is that we have access to infinite knowledge but no intelligence to do anything with it
is that your point?
Originally posted by smithjustinb
My point is to establish that there is intelligence at the root of all existence.
Originally posted by EmilNomel
Originally posted by smithjustinb
So then what is length? Is it knowledge?
If length is knowledge, then what is a single point? Intelligence?
if this is true then:
length = a line from point A to point B = "knowledge"
a line = infinite set of points = "knowledge" = infinity
a single point in 3D = a sphere which has a diameter of zero = "intelligence" = 0
ok, so...
"knowledge" = infinity
"intelligence" = 0
Originally posted by smithjustinb
If length is knowledge, then what is a single point? Intelligence?
Originally posted by MissSmartypants
reply to post by smithjustinb
I found your thread absolutely fascinating. So...our creator was a mathematical point that became aware of it's self. Fascinating. And the creator of this particular "point"? Did the point even exist before it was observed to exist by it's self?edit on 9/3/2011 by MissSmartypants because: cuz
Originally posted by The GUT
Originally posted by smithjustinb
If length is knowledge, then what is a single point? Intelligence?
I've been thinking about a lot of this in relation to an OP I'm working on. I think you're on to something, but not intelligence exactly, but rather consciousness.
Originally posted by MissSmartypants
Originally posted by The GUT
Originally posted by smithjustinb
If length is knowledge, then what is a single point? Intelligence?
I've been thinking about a lot of this in relation to an OP I'm working on. I think you're on to something, but not intelligence exactly, but rather consciousness.
And perhaps it is the case that this consciousness just suddenly bursts into existence and it's at THAT moment that it becomes a "point".
Originally posted by Sweetmystery
When I read this, I start wondering about the observing itself---the awareness that the point, line, width are dimensions---but what about the observation, is that maybe the 4th dimension? and we don't notice it, because we are it, we are the perceiving itself or perceiving contains the point, line, width ---something like that. Anyway this made me very aware of this sort of 4th dimension of awareness, or consciousness that has to be included in the other dimensions or else the other dimensions would not ever exist? right? I mean they can't exist unless there is an awareness of them?
Just some ideas that came up when I was reading this--- Maybe this has no baring on the subject at all?
Originally posted by Sweetmystery
When I read this, I start wondering about the observing itself---the awareness that the point, line, width are dimensions---but what about the observation, is that maybe the 4th dimension? and we don't notice it, because we are it, we are the perceiving itself or perceiving contains the point, line, width ---something like that. Anyway this made me very aware of this sort of 4th dimension of awareness, or consciousness that has to be included in the other dimensions or else the other dimensions would not ever exist? right? I mean they can't exist unless there is an awareness of them?
Just some ideas that came up when I was reading this--- Maybe this has no baring on the subject at all?
Originally posted by EmilNomel
Originally posted by Sweetmystery
When I read this, I start wondering about the observing itself---the awareness that the point, line, width are dimensions---but what about the observation, is that maybe the 4th dimension? and we don't notice it, because we are it, we are the perceiving itself or perceiving contains the point, line, width ---something like that. Anyway this made me very aware of this sort of 4th dimension of awareness, or consciousness that has to be included in the other dimensions or else the other dimensions would not ever exist? right? I mean they can't exist unless there is an awareness of them?
Just some ideas that came up when I was reading this--- Maybe this has no baring on the subject at all?
well, the 4th dimension that we have accepted is the time itself (thanks to Mr. Einstein and his theory of relativity)
the 5th dimension could be the awareness or consciousness that you are thinking and talking about...
very clever thought though!
Originally posted by EmilNomel
Originally posted by smithjustinb
So then what is length? Is it knowledge?
If length is knowledge, then what is a single point? Intelligence?
if this is true then:
length = a line from point A to point B = "knowledge"
a line = infinite set of points = "knowledge" = infinity
a single point in 3D = a sphere which has a diameter of zero = "intelligence" = 0
ok, so...
"knowledge" = infinity
"intelligence" = 0
0 x Infinity = infinity?
HELP!
now i can see that my intelligence definitely = 0
but, if we change the mathematics and substitute 0 with infinity i might feel better
i agree with you mate... mathematics is definitely wrong!
Originally posted by EmilNomel
Originally posted by Sweetmystery
When I read this, I start wondering about the observing itself---the awareness that the point, line, width are dimensions---but what about the observation, is that maybe the 4th dimension? and we don't notice it, because we are it, we are the perceiving itself or perceiving contains the point, line, width ---something like that. Anyway this made me very aware of this sort of 4th dimension of awareness, or consciousness that has to be included in the other dimensions or else the other dimensions would not ever exist? right? I mean they can't exist unless there is an awareness of them?
Just some ideas that came up when I was reading this--- Maybe this has no baring on the subject at all?
well, the 4th dimension that we have accepted is the time itself (thanks to Mr. Einstein and his theory of relativity)
the 5th dimension could be the awareness or consciousness that you are thinking and talking about...
very clever thought though!