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Oh Sarah, you tease!

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posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 08:56 PM
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I'm a black/conservative that has been labeled racist/bigoted for months. I have every GD right to phase my GD question that way.

When the bigoted/racist/progressives finally admit that THEY are the root cause of much of this, I will stop.




posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by Rockdisjoint
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The difference though between her view and a leftist view is that leftists hate Capitalism in general, while conservatives view cronyism as an abuse of the free market.

You're always typing some bs like this. If what you say is true then why are conservatives always the biggest distorters of the market?

From bailouts, to forced credit expansion, protectionism, monetary stimulus, govt work programs [wars], more regulations, increasing the size of govt and its spending, etc.

It seems to me that conservatives don't support the free market at all, but rather they only support big business.......
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Perhaps the GOP politicians support bailouts and everything else you said, but don't lump every conservative in with that view.

I am conservative, and I for one want to eliminate everything you said and go a step further, eliminate much of the nanny state many governments have become.



posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 09:06 PM
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posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 09:09 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by badcon
I come to this forum for news I wouldn't hear about from other sources.

Occasionally I'm reminded that there are morons who support Sarah Palin everywhere.

Thank you for the reminder.


And I am constantly remineded of people who make claims with no source.

You must work for MSNBC



You make me laugh Beez, I love your brand of humor.



posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 09:12 PM
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You're always typing some bs like this. If what you say is true then why are conservatives always the biggest distorters of the market?



You mean Im too conservative and I have the gall to point out the obvious partisan nature that I see here despite the fact that everyone still claims they are above the left/right Hegelian paradigm? I see a lot of people pretending they see beyond that paradigm but they have just learned to cloak it a bit.



posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 09:24 PM
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I have no clue as to what you're talking about.

I just asked a simple question, geez.......
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posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by Rockdisjoint
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I have no clue as to what you're talking about.

I just asked a simple question, geez.......
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Tellling me I'm always posting "bs like this" is asking me a simple question? I'm sorry you don't like me calling things like it is. Sorry, I don't cloak things under the guise of being against the NWO, I am simply against the NWO. I was just as much against the PATRIOT ACT as the ACLU for the record, and I am against Romney's Romneycare for the same reason I am against the Democrat version. And by the way, Massachusets is having problems with their budget now.
Saying republicans are the biggest "distorters" of fre market capitalism sounds like partisanship to me.

If you want to talk about distortion of the market, let's talk about George Soros shall we. Let's talk about how he has actively been trying to "distort" the currency of the American dollar. Oh let's do talk about distortion.
Truth be told, I'm more worried about Soros influence than I am Obama, because Obama can simply be voted out. That is why we have a Constitutional government. Soros, not so much.

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posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 09:41 PM
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But before any of my fellows hiss at me, I feel Palin is just another paid shill, sort of like Glenn Beck. Perhaps I am hardened to politicians, but when I see her / hear her talk, my BS meter goes off.

To me, Palin is just one of the many politicians that have jumped on the Tea Party bandwagon to gain popularity.


No proof, but that is how I feel.



posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by MidnightTide
But before any of my fellows hiss at me, I feel Palin is just another paid shill, sort of like Glenn Beck. Perhaps I am hardened to politicians, but when I see her / hear her talk, my BS meter goes off.

To me, Palin is just one of the many politicians that have jumped on the Tea Party bandwagon to gain popularity.


No proof, but that is how I feel.

What issues/polices do you diagree with, then?



posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus


Nope nope nope, the stupidity thing resulted from the MSM attacks on her, and the hatred emanating from the liberals.

Comparing the ability of "more than a few ATS members who are able to grasp and convey political issues" to us here is beyond the pale of an absolute non-argument. Try again. You are just making personal attacks that have nothing to do with reason or understanding. You have not provided anything of substance yourself so pot meet kettle.

Specifically, what policy of hers exalts the corporate model more than oh, say Bill Gates, Al Gore, or George Soros, or ACORN, or Ted Turner or Google or AOL/Time Warner or GE or Chrysler? Just because Obama decided to nationalize the auto industry doesn't make it less corporate now does it? It doesn't make a large healthcare provider less corporate does it?


The LADY, single handedly created the motto DRILL BABY DRILL, for the OIL INDUSTRY, FOR FREE!

Neo Conservatives have thus far initiated TWO wars into oil rich nations to secure oil reserves for
corporations, using tax payer money, Trillions worth...



Corporate personhood is consistently advanced by the conservative SCOTUS


Palin is so egotistical, she can't even admit when she is wrong, that is a horrible flaw in a leader
who will drive you straight into the heart of the sun before admitting a mistake. George W Palin




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posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 10:08 PM
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Palin doesn't have any, that is the problem, just like any of the political figure we have right now running for any position, she has not solid base on what she stands for, she is nothing but propaganda paid by those that are financing her, still she is not running for anything yet, she is been propped by the interest behind her to test waters, this what many "possible candidates does this days" like this political figures don't have to exposed their financial funding as private citizens, once a candidate announce that they are running for a political position they have to exposed who their financial backers are, Palin will hold down on that one until the last moment, in the hope that people will be taken so much by "her charm" that they will forget her "affiliations".

I have the feeling that she will run for president not this time around but in another 4 years.



posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by AwakeinNM
 


I'm a black/conservative that has been labeled racist/bigoted for months. I have every GD right to phase my GD question that way.

When the bigoted/racist/progressives finally admit that THEY are the root cause of much of this, I will stop.



All of them right?
You are certainly not judging an entire group on your personal experiences with the most vocal in your life.
right?
ATS um...conservatives are pretty funny but nothing beats a Palin fan.
Apparently since Glenn Beck is not on the idiot box this is all they have to do.
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posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
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Before you start annoying me to the T&C point,

That, my friend is on you. Do not ever try to blame your poor future potential behavior on anyone else. That is so far from self reliant I cannot believe you of all people would try to do such a thing.

why not describe her policy positions that you disagree with.

I have several but I believe this is your attempt to ignore my question, threaten me, then just start asking me things.
A respectful conversation would mean you at least responding to my questions before launching into your own.


Unless you just want to hate and are a bigot/racist/sexist.




Oh yeah. I am so certain you can back any of that up with anything. You are so judgmental for a mixed race black guy. What the hell are you talking about? I asked you something about SARAH PALIN. That is actually the topic. You got nothing to go with this personal attack and it has no place. I never make accusations I do not also provide the evidence to back up. What is wrong with you.


Please provide sources.

Please provide answers to my questions from the last post first. Try doing it without calling me names and making accusatory statements and I might respond as respectfully as I was the first time to you. Otherwise stuff it in a sack if I actually have to prove to YOU her policies that I am against exist. You should know them better than me.

Again, the topic is Sarah Palin so try to squeeze a little something about her into your answer this time.
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posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 10:24 PM
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Originally posted by AwakeinNM

Originally posted by beezzer
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Before you start annoying me to the T&C point, why not describe her policy positions that you disagree with.

Unless you just want to hate and are a bigot/racist/sexist.

Please provide sources.



Really?? Playing the racist/sexist card for what? Because it's habit?? I didn't see anything in that post that was racist or sexist in nature. Why don't you knock it off with the race card already? It is getting OLD.


Thank you. Whether you agree with me on anything or not, that was just odd. I think being of a darker mixed race he believes he can play the race card but I do not see how he can try for a moment to claim anything I said in this thread about SARAH PALIN fits in there. I would like to see what he seems to see.



posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 10:24 PM
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You going to have a hard time selling that one to the backers of Palin, she is all for oil and yes she will drill, baby drill even in our backyards.



See, she gives the false impression of been against oil companies but actually she have been doing them a favor while keeping herself looking like anti big oil.

Taking into consideration that in 2008 when she was running for vice president Republicans took money from big oil companies just like Democrats but with a big difference, 71% percent of all the campaign money from big oil went to Republicans.

Drill baby, drill. Palin: A Slip on Oil Industry Ties?.


So far in 2010, the oil and gas industries have contributed $12.8 million to all candidates, with 71% of that money going to Republicans. During the 2008 election cycle, 77% of the industry’s $35.6 million in contributions went to Republicans, and in the 2008 presidential contest, Republican candidate Sen. John McCain received more than twice as much money from the oil and gas industries as Obama: McCain collected $2.4 million; Obama, $898,000.

This is a decades-long trend, the center says: Since 1990, oil and gas companies have donated $238.7 million to candidates and parties, with 75% of the money going to Republicans
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blogs.wsj.com...





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posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by Kitilani

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Kitilani
 

Before you start annoying me to the T&C point,

That, my friend is on you. Do not ever try to blame your poor future potential behavior on anyone else. That is so far from self reliant I cannot believe you of all people would try to do such a thing.


It's not very self reliant is it?

What will happen when purveyors of responsibility talk about responsibility, but fail to practice it?

Can something so unusual and freaky even happen???



posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 10:31 PM
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Sarah is for domestic drilling, not sending American taxpayer dollars to subsidize the Brazilian nationalized oil industry. What part of that don't you get? DOn't make Barack to be out to be some savior when he's just going the socialist way.



posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 10:36 PM
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Originally posted by Kitilani

Originally posted by AwakeinNM

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Kitilani
 

Before you start annoying me to the T&C point, why not describe her policy positions that you disagree with.

Unless you just want to hate and are a bigot/racist/sexist.

Please provide sources.



Really?? Playing the racist/sexist card for what? Because it's habit?? I didn't see anything in that post that was racist or sexist in nature. Why don't you knock it off with the race card already? It is getting OLD.


Thank you. Whether you agree with me on anything or not, that was just odd. I think being of a darker mixed race he believes he can play the race card but I do not see how he can try for a moment to claim anything I said in this thread about SARAH PALIN fits in there. I would like to see what he seems to see.




Wow you are beating up on him even more with the race thing after he said he was black. I don't remember him saying he was mixed race though. But then, look what the Black Caucus did to Allen West. Why am I not surprised.



posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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Sarah is for domestic drilling, not sending American taxpayer dollars to subsidize the Brazilian nationalized oil industry. What part of that don't you get? DOn't make Barack to be out to be some savior when he's just going the socialist way.


No Sarah is for blindly doing what conservative dictate says is a good idea.

She does not have the mental capacity to use ANY bit of prudence, she is
so corporate the compulsive nature makes her blurt out slogans to benefit
corporatism. Currently there are many,many leased and green lit wells just
sitting there doing nothing. If conservatives weren't so hard on for wealth
they would realize that DRILL BABY DRILL is simply a way for individuals
and entities to consolidate their holdings and power for decades to come
by buying up all the resources now.



posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 10:46 PM
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Yes, you are right, but remember in who's hands our best profitable wells are right now, including Alaska, while our domestic Oil companies have rights also in Alaska most of the oil drilled goes to BP and so in the gulf of Mexico.

Our domestic oil is in the hand of private companies, that is why we still pay the prices we pay for oil.

We depend on foreign oil no because our nation can not meet demands, but because deals that our govenrment have globally with other nations.



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