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Qaddafi was a CIA Asset

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posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 02:37 PM
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Human Rights Watch found documents in Libya after the fall of Muammar Qaddafi that it passed on to the Wall Street Journal, which is analyzing them. The WSJ reported today that the documents show that Qaddafi developed so warm a relationship with George W. Bush that Bush sent people he had kidnapped (“rendition”) to Libya to be “questioned” by Libya’s goons, and almost certainly to be tortured. The formal paperwork asked Libya to observe human rights, but Bush’s office also sent over a list of specific questions it wanted the Libyan interrogators to ask. Qaddafi also gave permission to the CIA from 2004 to establish a formal presence in the country.


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Oh boy yet another one of our CIA Assets have fallen from grace. I seriously don't trust my government anymore. Is this a coincidence or am I right for being mad?




posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 02:40 PM
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I don't believe anything our government media posts at all anymore.



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by krypt0n
I don't believe anything our government media posts at all anymore.


But...then why would the WSJ call out the government if they're owned by the government?

Anyways I don't believe anything the government officially says that's for sure.



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 03:01 PM
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Here's another version...

CIA, MI6 helped Gaddafi on dissidents: rights group


The group said it uncovered hundreds of letters between the CIA, MI6 and Koussa, who is now in exile in London. Letters from the CIA began, "Dear Moussa," and were signed informally with first names only by CIA officials, Human Rights Watch said.

"Among the files we discovered at Moussa Koussa's office is a fax from the CIA dated 2004 in which the CIA informs the Libyan government that they are in a position to capture and render Belhadj," Human Rights Watch's Peter Bouckaert, who was part of the group that found the stash, told Reuters.

"That operation actually took place. He was captured by the CIA in Asia and put on a secret flight back to Libya where he was interrogated and tortured by the Libyan security services."


This screams PAYBACK to me.

It's very inconvenient that these documents were left intact to be found; they give a crystal-clear image to the Rebels as to who thier new 'friends' really are.



In Washington, CIA spokeswoman Jennifer Youngblood, without commenting on any specific allegation or document, said: "It can't come as a surprise that the Central Intelligence Agency works with foreign governments to help protect our country from terrorism and other deadly threats. That is exactly what we are expected to do."

A U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, added: "There are lots of countries willing to take terrorists off the street who want to kill Americans. That doesn't mean U.S. concerns about human rights are ignored in the process."

"Let's keep in mind the context here," the official added. "By 2004, the U.S. had successfully convinced the Libyan government to renounce its nuclear weapons program and to help stop terrorists who were actively targeting Americans in the US and abroad."


Spin baby spin.

I'd bet money that these documents were 'discovered' neatly laid out on a desk, waiting to be found. The old regime is getting the last laugh by showing how the West not only condoned thier actions but actively supported them.

Saving the best comment for last...Gaddafi was even fed intel on who was speaking out against him abroad.


Bouckaert showed Reuters photos of several documents on his computer and also photos of letters he said were from the CIA to Koussa and were signed, "Steve." He also displayed photographs he said were of letters from MI6 giving Libyan intelligence information on Libyan dissidents in Britain.


It's not that I condone or support Gaddafi's actions while in power, but I love the fact that these letters were left lying around for someone to find.



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 03:06 PM
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I think that the CIA is its own little "thing." I think that they pretty much do what they want and charge the US government for it.

But that is just my opinion.



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 03:11 PM
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The US Government doesn't exist anymore. Special Interest groups and these three letter agencies rule the country.



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 03:13 PM
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Well I don't think they were lying around. But they were obviously easy to find. Probably in a filing Cabinet or something. Maybe on a computer encrypted (easy to break though.) idk

The problem is that we supported their oppressive government right? And now we're the good guys. Really weird. Not to mention they have ties to terrorist organizations that we're fighting. Since when do we support rebels and terrorists? Oh...always.



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 03:14 PM
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And what is the admin doing now? Skewering anybody who might have worked with the CIA to control terrorism. Just like leftists. What's new? The Carter admin secretly supported Khomeini in Iran while publicly supporting the Shah, then told the Shah to abdicate. That is how the left works.



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 03:30 PM
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There's a video going around saying Gaddafi wouldn't give into the Rothchilds central banking for him.

It makes sense that the CIA had been trying to work him.

I heard Lybia has there own central bank. That means the country can print their own money, unlike the US, although some people think the US prints their own money but they don't. The Federal Reserve prints the money then lends it to the country at interest.

They are enslaving us and our children though debt.
edit on 3-9-2011 by IndieA because: addtion



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by drew1749
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Well I don't think they were lying around. But they were obviously easy to find. Probably in a filing Cabinet or something. Maybe on a computer encrypted (easy to break though.) idk

The problem is that we supported their oppressive government right? And now we're the good guys. Really weird. Not to mention they have ties to terrorist organizations that we're fighting. Since when do we support rebels and terrorists? Oh...always.


us foreign policy is a study in ever shifting hypocrisy.

i;m sure it makes no sense and it's main aim is to maintain the bureaucracy.

imagine Dick Cheney in charge of these scoundrels, the trained monkeys must have considered it the best of times.



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 03:46 PM
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Here's the pro Gaddafi propagranda video I mentioned.

Could this be the truth coming out in a last ditch effort by Gaddafi to stay in power.

Can anyone confirm the statements made in the video?




posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 04:53 PM
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I agree that this is sadly believable. I honestly believe the best and fastest way to fix our country is to eliminate money from the political process - but I also believe that this may well be a genie that won't go back into the bottle.

On the brighter side, the more we find out and can make noise about, the better the chances that we will still have a world to leave to our grandchildren. (oops, my age is showing).



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 05:00 PM
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how do I get to be a CIA operative ?I wanna have my own country and buy lots of shoes ,and a mermaid bed



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 07:54 PM
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And that surprises you how?
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posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 07:59 PM
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Every Leader that has a greater interest in Ritches than a concern for their people....is a possible Company asset....until the Company deciedes they no longer are. Split Infinity



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 08:03 PM
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most of the time we only notice cia assets when they fall from grace.

from saddam to mubarak, pinochet to noriega.
the cia has and always had dictators on they re payroll

until they become obsolete, expendable and in need of a replacement.

for example now they are switching the pawns in the middle east, a couple of decades ago it was south america and east asia.

in africa though the cia just support every side since they are able to sell weapons eachtime.


 
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posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by AnotherYOU
most of the time we only notice cia assets when they fall from grace.

from saddam to mubarak, pinochet to noriega.
the cia has and always had dictators on they re payroll

until they become obsolete, expendable and in need of a replacement.

for example now they are switching the pawns in the middle east, a couple of decades ago it was south america and east asia.

in africa though the cia just support every side since they are able to sell weapons eachtime.


 
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The purpose of the Company is to provide intel...and BALANCE. It is the later that is more important. The Company has been designed since it's creation from the old OSS...to be able to run certain programs autonomously.

You are right that it is only when something goes wrong that we all hear names being dropped. But this is the way things have always been. The Company is charged with not only acessing and preventing risks...but being the Fall Guy when a covert op goes bad that was initiated by chains in the leadership but plausable deniability is a must.

The fact is for all that a person could attribute events as being bad or immoral....there is a much greater amount of Company actions that are lifesaving and a benifit to the people of the United States. You just never get to hear about the good things that are done. Split Infinity



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 08:42 PM
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i am aware of that.

but let it all out and see what happens.

let the people know the good and bad deeds.

wich way would the popular judgement fall upon?

plus how good can one deed be if what is funding the good deeds are mostly the bad deeds.

drug, arms and human trafficking are a good source of revenue for the cia

thriving on the shady dealings you are supposedly fighting against.

isnt that how the world is run?


 
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posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by AnotherYOU
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i am aware of that.

but let it all out and see what happens.

let the people know the good and bad deeds.

wich way would the popular judgement fall upon?

plus how good can one deed be if what is funding the good deeds are mostly the bad deeds.

drug, arms and human trafficking are a good source of revenue for the cia

thriving on the shady dealings you are supposedly fighting against.

isnt that how the world is run?


 
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To my knowledge....there has never been an order to use profits from Human Trafficking. If a company operative did do this...they would be admonished. Drugs and those who sell them...have been used in the past to both fund op's as well as gain intell...this has always been done on a weighed....detriment/benifit scale.

As far as arms...well there is no doubt about that one. Again....this is weighed on a Detriment/Benifit scale. Do I think that it is right or desirable? NO. Do I think that doing these things saved more lives than it lost and provided a big picture long term benifit...no doubt. Am I trying to justify it? NO. Just explain it.
Split Infinity



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 09:16 PM
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yes

whats is usually dextrimental to the world is usually benefitial to the companies interests.

the company has had its hands on human trafficking in eastern europe and northern africa.
but since they consider it too dirty for them, they outsource those ops to the mossad, nothing is ever too dirty for the mossad.

the cia gets some of the money aswell, and can use the human slaves as mules and or expendable assets made to carry certain things over certain borders.



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